6000mg prop/ 3000mgs tren ace & 5000mgs dbol...What would you do?

[mastercrash]

Hey there everyone! I've used tren e before with test e and dbol and didn't suffer any neg sides. I've also used prop and fell in love!

now I've got some tren ace, test prop and dbol (as well as adex,letro,hcg,nolva & clomid)
I've got two more months before I hope to get started. (and yes I know I have way more dbol than i'll even need)



I have a general question: what is the best why to stack these in your opinion?(dosees/ratio of tren/prop, weeks on) based on my stats:

27yrs old
194 lbs
511tall
clean diet
training for ten years(only five that I'm really proud of)

[The Bear 79]

Wk. 1 - 12 = 500 mg/wk of Test.
Wk. 1 - 10 = 300 mg/wk of Tren. (stop threw Tren. before the Test. so the 19 nor is cleared from your system in a Test. rich environment.
I would leave the D-bol out of it, all it does its bloat you & its very difficult to retain any muscle gained from it once you stop.
What is your PCT plan?

[mastercrash]

For my PCT I have Nolvadex and clomid. I've heard different theories on how to dose them and exactly when to begin them after my last shot of prop.

any opinions/guidance on this would be awesome. I was thinking:

Nolva: 30/30/30/30

Clomid: 50/50/40/30
four week for both of course. I was told to begin pct 7 days after my last test prop shot. Should I start a little sooner?

I plan to use 500iu hcg 2x per week during cycle but haven't decided if I should amp up the dosage right before pct or stop it right before this is confusing for me as i've read so many different opinions

I also plan to use adex .5 eod during cycle.

I have letro on hand as well. I have all of these on hand but not caber yet. I know where to find it but its too expensive to have on hand only to end up not needing it.

Does anyone know a good b6 dosage that may help preventatively?

[The Bear 79]

You're using short esters so your PCT will start 3 days after your last shot. 40/40/20/20 is most common & has been proven effective, I have never used Clomid so I won't advise on that, but someone that has should be along shortly. Start your Arimadex dose at .25 there no need for such a powerful dose right out of the gate. You should only need 500 iu's a week if HCG, 250 iu's twice a week ending with your last AAS shot. And as long as you are using an AI, you shouldn't need any prolactin control lounge Caber, the AI will control your prl levels.

[mastercrash]

The Bear 79 you rock man!
nobody has helped me as much or been as clear with their answers as you. This clears alot of things up for me. I'm now really pumped to begin this cycle but will still wait two more months to shed some bf% and work out any kinks in my diet/routine...theres always room for improvement right. Thanks for the doses. and I'm going to follow your advise and keep the dbol out. I know some buds that will take it off my hands. Experienced guys of course. I would never put them in the hands of...say...me 7 years ago because I prob would have cycled them alone.

[jasc]

Looks like Bear straightened you out nicely..My only critique is the cycle legnth. 12 weeks on prop is awfully long and most users begin to see gains slow drastically after week 8. Personally I've run prop for 12 weeks n wouldn't do it again. After week 10 all I got was increased sides and little to no gains with an underlying feeling of constant fatigue. Everyone is different though. Enjoy the ride.

[mastercrash]

Thanks jasc i'll take that into consideration and perhaps feel it out as I go. I wan't the most gains for sure but obviously fewer sides it prefered. would you suggest the same doses for 8 - 10 weeks or up the dose shorten cycle length kinda deal?