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    does more test cause greater suppression of natural levels?

    does taking say 1g test/week make it harder to recover from than a 500mg/wk cycle of the same length? some people say anything above normal levels will cause complete shutdown but others say the more test the greater the shutdown. and why does stuff like tren and deca cause more shut down than test? thanks

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    Shut down is shut down. Any amt of testosterone added into your body will shut you down,

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    so are you saying if someone used 2000mg test for a 10 week period it will take the same amount of time to recover from a 500mg 10 week cycle ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by hillbill78 View Post
    so are you saying if someone used 2000mg test for a 10 week period it will take the same amount of time to recover from a 500mg 10 week cycle ??
    so you meant to ask do greater amounts of test increase recovery time?

    I'll let someone answer that, that does PCT. I'm TRT so I wouldn't know from first hand experience.

    I suspect that up to a certain point it does, but once you saturate your receptors and are in "overload" (for lack of a better word), then beyond a certain point it doesn't matter.

    But let's someone else verify this....

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    Everyone is different. One guy may use 300mgs a week of test only. Perfect PCT and not recover. Someone else may run 1 gram of test and 500mgs of deca a week. Perfect pct and recover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    Everyone is different. One guy may use 300mgs a week of test only. Perfect PCT and not recover. Someone else may run 1 gram of test and 500mgs of deca a week. Perfect pct and recover.
    ok but for the same person does higher dose=harder recovery/greater shut down? and why does deca and tren shut you down harder?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mirin_serratus View Post
    ok but for the same person does higher dose=harder recovery/greater shut down? and why does deca and tren shut you down harder?
    deca and tren are both powerful progestins which shut down the HPTA harder than just exogeneous testosterone does. also, deca lingers in the body for months on end after the last injection(with a detection time over a year).

    androgen receptor sensitivity might also be something to consider when recover from a cycle. For example, both deca and tren have a high/strong binding affinity for the AR when compared to testosterone. this may "de-sensitize" the receptors for when you come off of cycle making it harder to recovery via unfavourable receptors.

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    Can you tell your shut down when your balls are shriveled up? That would make sense since natural test comes from your sack. It would be hard for your sack to produce anything when they are all shriveled up

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