can i get help on cycling ?

[p0sey]

hey guys , im 20 , i wanna get on steroids when i get 21 , but before that i wanna ask some questions

well first im 190cm tall , 80kg , been lifting for 1 year now , i am lean and have a fast metabolism , even when i try to bulk its like my body its a machine it just burns everything , i have been making gains before starting to lift i was 72kg , now after 1 year im 80.
my dream body is Serge Nubret , i want to know how should my cycle look like if i wanna get on Serge Nubret workout plan for 12 weeks/3months , also what my meal plan should look like , im talking is it different from not beeing on steroids ?
if you guys want a picture of me please tell me.
i am willing to sacrifice my whole next summer and just train eat and sleep and really push myself to the limits , but until then i wanna research , i dont really understeand how can i make my own cycles but can anyone help me until i manage to understeand ? i know that i have to keep doing steroids once i start , but for the first 3 months i really wanna push myself beyone my limits. please could you guys help a friend ?

[Capebuffalo]

Welcome. I would suggest you start reading here:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...s#.UCgMSKOd6So

[JohnnnyBlazzze]

You're to young to be messing with AAS at this point bud, not to mention you have only been training for a year.

You're at the perfect age to make some great natural gains. I'm working with a guy that's only 18 right now getting ready to start football and the gains he is making right now with proper nutrition and training are insane. 18-22 are the money years, you need to hit the diet section!

[p0sey]

well i intend to start at 21 , im not gonna wait untill i am 25 or older , i am just kindly asking for some help , i am aware of the risks.

[JohnnnyBlazzze]

well i intend to start at 21 , im not gonna wait untill i am 25 or older , i am just kindly asking for some help , i am aware of the risks.

Then I suggest you look someplace else, you will get no assistance here I assure you of that. We are here to help people to do things properly and safely and what you are requesting is neither of them.

[gixxerboy1]

there are alot of risk. im not sure how you know them if you dont understand how to cycle or diet or train.
also your willing to sacrifice and entire summer? really?

[p0sey]

there are alot of risk. im not sure how you know them if you dont understand how to cycle or diet or train.
also your willing to sacrifice and entire summer? really?

i've been reading about steroids and side effects , but i haven't researched about cycles and this kind of stuff, and yes i am can easally sacrifice an entire summer cus what i am chasing is much more greater then a simpe lost summer. I am a student and in the summer i have the most free time i can do whatever i wish , and i just wanna train , eat and sleep.

[JohnnnyBlazzze]

i've been reading about steroids and side effects , but i haven't researched about cycles and this kind of stuff, and yes i am can easally sacrifice an entire summer cus what i am chasing is much more greater then a simpe lost summer. I am a student and in the summer i have the most free time i can do whatever i wish , and i just wanna train , eat and sleep.

Why don't you take a whole summer to see what you can achieve with proper nutrition and training then? You would be surprised what you could achieve.

[p0sey]

Then I suggest you look someplace else, you will get no assistance here I assure you of that. We are here to help people to do things properly and safely and what you are requesting is neither of them.

well i registered to this forum hoping to get some asistance , i dont plan to run cycles right now , there is still 1 year to go , i just wanna learn so i can minimise the side effects as much as possible , maybe no assistance from you , and if no one will help me i guess i will just have to do it on my own.

[gixxerboy1]

i've been reading about steroids and side effects , but i haven't researched about cycles and this kind of stuff, and yes i am can easally sacrifice an entire summer cus what i am chasing is much more greater then a simpe lost summer. I am a student and in the summer i have the most free time i can do whatever i wish , and i just wanna train , eat and sleep.

i was more being sarcastic. a summer is nothing. If you cant keep up training and eating correctly longer then 3 months yuor wasting your time.

[p0sey]

Why don't you take a whole summer to see what you can achieve with proper nutrition and training then? You would be surprised what you could achieve.

i will not be convinced by any of your arguments , i have my own reasons. now if you really wanna help me i would appreciate it

[p0sey]

i was more being sarcastic. a summer is nothing. If you cant keep up training and eating correctly longer then 3 months yuor wasting your time.

you think i dont know that ? i said in that summer i wanna go beyond my limits. and i can keep up with training and eating correctly.

[JohnnnyBlazzze]

i will not be convinced by any of your arguments , i have my own reasons. now if you really wanna help me i would appreciate it

I am trying to help you but you're only going to listen to what you want to hear. I guarantee you don't even know how to eat correctly and if you start using AAS you're just going to wind up wasting your time, money, and health.

[gixxerboy1]

you think i dont know that ? i said in that summer i wanna go beyond my limits. and i can keep up with training and eating correctly.

chill. You really dont understand any of it. Your 6ft 4 and 175lbs. You could add 30lbs naturally easily.
Your not even close to your body limits or would you be after a summer of steroids.
Start reading the educational threads. They will teach you a lot. Most guys arent willing to help a young kid who is no where ready to need or use steroids. It like teaching a 13 year old bartender skills cause you know im going to drink at 15 anyway

[Capebuffalo]

Did you read what I suggested? Or don't care?

[>Good Luck<]

i will not be convinced by any of your arguments , i have my own reasons. now if you really wanna help me i would appreciate it

Well everyone here clearly enjoys being here. If you read the rules, it clearly states that you won't get any help.

Dude, on a real level, your already on steroids. Your natural test should be so high that you would only mess up your body's ability to grow by taking gear. Nobody is saying don't do
Steroids. They're saying to wait or else you'll probably need to use them for the rest of you life. Messing with your system isn't a joke. Closing growth plates is not a joke. Loosing penile function is no joke. You wanna talk about something "much more greater" how about being 200lbs lean and woman hanging off you only to realize your pecker doesn't peck anymore. Or that your hormones have been out of whack for so long that you may not think straight anymore? Or if you're not mentally mature enough to make rational decisions yet, because those things come with time and don't just magically turn on when you are old enough to drink. You would be taking huge risks that far outweigh a killer body. You would be making a decision that you don't know you regret until it's to darn late.

Do the right thing man. Listen to these guys who have devotes their lives to this lifestyle and who have the knowledge to get you where you want to be without damaging your self along the way

[DanB]

i will not be convinced by any of your arguments , i have my own reasons. now if you really wanna help me i would appreciate it

then stop being lazy and read a few threads all the info is here and a simple cycle aint rocket science we wont spoon feed you we aint your mammy

and if you too lazy to research a cycle for a hour then dont make me laugh by trying to say you know how to eat and train

[DanB]

Did you read what I suggested? Or don't care?

he didnt read it they never do all he wants to hear is take x or y

so ill tell him

buysteroids.com and follow instructions on label

[Silverbimma]

Dude at 20, 21, even 25 you're still a squid. I'm glad I waited to realize I don't need steroids. If you want to be a walking science project for your endocrinologist then go ahead and do them. I know right now you wanna bang some chicks but when your weiner disagrees and you're over your insecurities, you might not like your decision.

[MRNJ1992]

First you need to put some time in on training. There is no magic pill. Genetics play a big role in how you look. Id wait awhile. I trained 7 years before a took any AS.Good Luck