Ok, so i'll try to keep this post as short as possible. Rather than just introducing myself, I want to ask a couple questions just so I can keep my threads to a minimum & not make a new one for every question. I came here from the BB forums, getting as much information as possible. It also seems to me that quite a lot of those guys get results from steroids even when they deny using, just from their sheer size alone. You don't go from 150, to 230 & shredded without help. Especially in the amount of time they did it in. So I have a couple questions. I have fell in love with weight lifting, getting sick of being lazy and out of shape. I want to turn my body around now because I'm only 23, and I realize it will be much harder when I'm 30. I've only been lifting for maybe 2 months steady. My strength has already increased a bit, but no noticeable physical change as of yet. My question is regarding Testosterone (Obviously). Should I be worrying about it? My natural levels I mean. Because on the BB forums they say you should have changes noticeable to the eye after 2 months, but I see none. Are they full of it? I didn't intend to use steroids yet (But will without question when i'm older, say 35+). I would like to hear what all of you smart people have to say to me regarding these issues. I'm 5',10", 205 lbs & perhaps 20%-25% BF. But I haven't been caliper tested. I know I'm overweight, and need a complete body composition change. My end goal is to be about 200-210 lbs and perhaps 10% BF. Steroids came to mind because of the results they achieve in the amount of time they get them in. I don't want to wait ten years to naturally get where I want if it turns out that's how long it'd take. Thanks in advance guys & gals.