HGH sitting at customs

[Edwin23q]

Hi everyone,

My hgh order of 500iu has been at customs for 8 days. Alarm bells? I think so.
Does anyone know what the penalties are for first offense? Also any chance they might let them through or should I forget about them?

Thanks.

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[kaptainkeezy04]

Hi everyone,

My hgh order of 500iu has been at customs for 8 days. Alarm bells? I think so.
Does anyone know what the penalties are for first offense? Also any chance they might let them through or should I forget about them?

Thanks.

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deny, deny, deny. don't talk to anyone with a lawyer EVER! as long as your source isn't a dumb ass and included an invoice with your name and proof of payment, you should be able to say you have no idea what they are talking about. "hgh? from where? i'm sorry, i don't know what you are talking about."

[kaptainkeezy04]

if it did get seized, they will probably just send you a seizure letter, and some overseas sources will reship for free or at a discount if you can provide proof of seizure, because they are supposed to pack it discretely enough to not get caught, but shit happens.

[Edwin23q]

Yeah normally my source relabel and repackages them professionally to something else that's legal here in Australia. The replacement ones are on their way but I'm just worried about the federal police to come and search my house or send me a court order. I guess I'll just wait and see.

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[kronik420]

place smaller orders, if you divide your order into say 10 smaller ones, and 1 or 2 of them get seized, it won't be as bad as one big order getting seized....

[kaptainkeezy04]

place smaller orders, if you divide your order into say 10 smaller ones, and 1 or 2 of them get seized, it won't be as bad as one big order getting seized....

the shipping costs would be horrendous to get it from wherever to australia if he split it into multiple, not to mention ten, smaller orders. and even then, if one package gets seized, they are going to start looking out for that name/address on the other 9 packages coming in.

[Edwin23q]

the shipping costs would be horrendous to get it from wherever to australia if he split it into multiple, not to mention ten, smaller orders. and even then, if one package gets seized, they are going to start looking out for that name/address on the other 9 packages coming in.

Yeah agree with you there. I think I'm already blacklisted by customs. The next batch (replacement) is being sent to me in 200iu parcels under my wife's name, lol.
The good news is that now I know I've been getting legit hgh and not fakes, lol

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[lovbyts]

Yeah agree with you there. I think I'm already blacklisted by customs. The next batch (replacement) is being sent to me in 200iu parcels under my wife's name, lol.
The good news is that now I know I've been getting legit hgh and not fakes, lol

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Why is that? I dont see the logic. They dont care if someone is sending you flour instead of HGH. It's all about intent. If you are selling sugar or flour on the street and telling people it's coke you still get charged for coke. Doesnt matter what the product really is. They are not testing your HGH, they only know what they think it is and that good enough.

The good news is they wont come knocking on your door unless it's with a package and want you to sign for it. If they do then DONT open it. Leave it closed for several days incase they come back. Opening it and putting it away is the same as admiting you ordered it. If it's not open you can say you had no idea what it was and going to return it.

Most likely they will send you a siezure leter as said and you just ignore it.

[DanB]

Why is that? I dont see the logic. They dont care if someone is sending you flour instead of HGH. It's all about intent. If you are selling sugar or flour on the street and telling people it's coke you still get charged for coke. Doesnt matter what the product really is. They are not testing your HGH, they only know what they think it is and that good enough.

The good news is they wont come knocking on your door unless it's with a package and want you to sign for it. If they do then DONT open it. Leave it closed for several days incase they come back. Opening it and putting it away is the same as admiting you ordered it. If it's not open you can say you had no idea what it was and going to return it.

Most likely they will send you a siezure leter as said and you just ignore it.

Ah the voice of reason, thank you, I cant get my head around why some people cant grasp that

however regarding testing, if it went to court they would have to test or at least over here they would, it can be different charges and if i plead not guilty, the stuf turned out bunk then i will most likely walk or possibly get a simple conspiracy charge or the likes

but different countries so everything i said maybe irrelevant over there

[lovbyts]

Ah the voice of reason, thank you, I cant get my head around why some people cant grasp that

however regarding testing, if it went to court they would have to test or at least over here they would, it can be different charges and if i plead not guilty, the stuf turned out bunk then i will most likely walk or possibly get a simple conspiracy charge or the likes

but different countries so everything i said maybe irrelevant over there

Your right, the sentance would be different and with a good enough lawyer you might get off but im sure a lesser charge if it was not real.

[gixxerboy1]

And there is no such thing as a customs blacklist

[ScotchGuard02]

My HGH got seized several times. Just ignore the seizure letter. The first time I freaked out but customs did nothing. Just don't make a ruckus.

[Edwin23q]

Thanks guys.

With in regards to the intent, there is nothing to indicate the vials had hgh in them as I order blank vials in a different package with a fake invoice for something legal.
I'll just wait and see what happens but I have another order on the way with different packaging and name.
It was on these forums that I read about the blacklist, for me I'm not sure as this has never happened to me before.

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[DanB]

And there is no such thing as a customs blacklist

is information not occasionally passed onto police if it is regular patterns or they are known people/places/areas of interest? mabey your too big a country to do that actually, our main city is prob the population of your smallest lol

[gixxerboy1]

is information not occasionally passed onto police if it is regular patterns or they are known people/places/areas of interest? mabey your too big a country to do that actually, our main city is prob the population of your smallest lol

yea, it can be passed to local. But to turn to that and them to actually monitor you mail which requires warrants requires alot of legal and manypower. They do it if they are building a real case

[Edwin23q]

That only happens with narcotics such as Cocain and heroin, never heard anyone getting charged for 500iu of hgh, but then again anything is possible.

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[DJ12]

HGH is not a scheduled drug. It's easily ordered online. Def would not be held up at customs

[gixxerboy1]

HGH is not a scheduled drug. It's easily ordered online. Def would not be held up at customs

They do seize gh at customs

[Edwin23q]

They do seize gh at customs

Gh is one of the most seized products in customs. Initially they think it's either coke or heroin if its in blank vials but once tested for gh then the cops lay off the customs guys make a quick buck out of seized items.
Australia has the most strict and corrupt customs in the works.

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[kronik420]

Gh is one of the most seized products in customs. Initially they think it's either coke or heroin if its in blank vials but once tested for gh then the cops lay off the customs guys make a quick buck out of seized items.
Australia has the most strict and corrupt customs in the works.

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.. i know...lol..

idk why tho... they stop alot of drugs and other illegal things from getting into the country, but there is already alot of drugs and stuff here... what's the point?? just to make it cost more to buy local?? to make the dealers richer??

[tod24]

In 2007, actor Sylvester Stallone was charged with importing 48 vials of HGH into Australia.

Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/28...#ixzz2HcVUDltN

[Edwin23q]

In 2007, actor Sylvester Stallone was charged with importing 48 vials of HGH into Australia.

Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/28...#ixzz2HcVUDltN

Yep and I remember him stating in an interview:

what's the point of it being illegal, in10 years time once you all realize the benefits it has to offer, it will be legalized.

Lol

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[lovbyts]

Yep and I remember him stating in an interview:

what's the point of it being illegal, in10 years time once you all realize the benefits it has to offer, it will be legalized.

Lol

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NO you are looking at things logically. That's not the way FDA works. It's not about what is good for you or what works. It's about $$$ and keeping people/health under control. It's not about making people better. It's about maintenance. (pain medicine and such) Controlling symptoms, not cures.

I dont think it it will ever be legal unless something comes out a lot better in the future and they find a way to not make HGH as effective.

[Edwin23q]

NO you are looking at things logically. That's not the way FDA works. It's not about what is good for you or what works. It's about $$$ and keeping people/health under control. It's not about making people better. It's about maintenance. (pain medicine and such) Controlling symptoms, not cures.

I dont think it it will ever be legal unless something comes out a lot better in the future and they find a way to not make HGH as effective.

Another way for population control.

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[lovbyts]

Another way for population control.

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Oh thats a bad word or at least sound negative so maybe we should call it Agenda 21?

[Edwin23q]

Oh thats a bad word or at least sound negative so maybe we should call it Agenda 21?

Lol, I can go with that.

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[lovbyts]

BTW any word on what is happening with customs?

[Edwin23q]

BTW any word on what is happening with customs?

Nothing yet, today i received my clomid, Nolva , Armidex and sus250 (240mls) and they got through, but the hgh is still there. Expecting a letter very soon. I got another 1000iu's coming in, so lets see how that goes.

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[lovbyts]

Well good luck and who knows. I have heard a couple of stories where people got their stuff months after ordering it. Only problem is HGH doesn't fare to well not being kept in cold storage for very long. Even when I got mine from the pharmacy they packaged it in stenography and with an ice pack to keep it cold on my drive home.

I doubt that customs is keeping it in the refrigerator for you. lol

[Edwin23q]

Well good luck and who knows. I have heard a couple of stories where people got their stuff months after ordering it. Only problem is HGH doesn't fare to well not being kept in cold storage for very long. Even when I got mine from the pharmacy they packaged it in stenography and with an ice pack to keep it cold on my drive home.

I doubt that customs is keeping it in the refrigerator for you. lol

Lol, the ass wipes have probably already started using it.

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[lovbyts]

Yeah I was thinking about that also. Wouldnt that be a sweet job. Free gear all the time.

You know something is wrong when you arent getting any of your gear but your mailman is looking all buff.

[ChuckEisenmench]

I have ordered several packages from the Ukraine and not had one seized yet.

[jay9582]

I recently ordered from the Ukraine and received an email that my order was partially shipped. Then I got an email the same day that the rest of my order was shipped later that day. I received the first part of my order in just two weeks. It's now been two weeks since then and I still haven't received the second package. Normally I wouldn't think too much of not receiving an order after 4 weeks but if they were shipped the same day is there any reason I wouldn't receive them at least within a couple days of each other?

[Xtralarg]

I recently ordered from the Ukraine and received an email that my order was partially shipped. Then I got an email the same day that the rest of my order was shipped later that day. I received the first part of my order in just two weeks. It's now been two weeks since then and I still haven't received the second package. Normally I wouldn't think too much of not receiving an order after 4 weeks but if they were shipped the same day is there any reason I wouldn't receive them at least within a couple days of each other?

Doesn't look good, what country are you in?

[jay9582]

United States. The second part of the order was just 5 amps of HCG. I don't know why it was shipped separately. Maybe they were out of stock and got more that day. Do you know how long it takes to get a seizure letter?

[jay9582]

I don't need the HCG now. But I did want to order more sust. But I'm wondering if I should order to a different address.

[Edwin23q]

I don't need the HCG now. But I did want to order more sust. But I'm wondering if I should order to a different address.

Try to use at least 3 different addresses.

If you have a trusted contact there, I would advise to relabel them.
Since I've done this nothing has been seized.
Inspected every time but never seized.

There are some very clever ways to get around customs if you use the right methods.

If a delivery sits at customs longer than 3 days then expect a seizure letter from them.

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[boz]

Try to use at least 3 different addresses.

If you have a trusted contact there, I would advise to relabel them.
Since I've done this nothing has been seized.
Inspected every time but never seized.

There are some very clever ways to get around customs if you use the right methods.

If a delivery sits at customs longer than 3 days then expect a seizure letter from them.

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Or a knock at the door. The price we pay for staying local, will always outweigh international shipment. I know i surely would prefer to go about my daily life activities/work with no stress or with no constant thinking about will i expect a knock at the door or am i going to get charged. Alot of people would say harden the fvuk up you knew the risks now deal with it. To avoid being told how it is, i know i dont even bother with most international shipments now.

I have ordered internationally before and yes i have had seizures, they are not communion once u get your first or second letter you start to get an idea of how strict our customs really are.

Dont be fooled by how naive they are, they truly are the best at what they do.

[ElectraMaddox]

if it did get seized, they will probably just send you a seizure letter, and some overseas sources will reship for free or at a discount if you can provide proof of seizure, because they are supposed to pack it discretely enough to not get caught, but shit happens.

He's is Australia they have the strictest customs and I think their penalties are harder if they get caught with gear

[ElectraMaddox]

Or a knock at the door. The price we pay for staying local, will always outweigh international shipment. I know i surely would prefer to go about my daily life activities/work with no stress or with no constant thinking about will i expect a knock at the door or am i going to get charged. Alot of people would say harden the fvuk up you knew the risks now deal with it. To avoid being told how it is, i know i dont even bother with most international shipments now.

I have ordered internationally before and yes i have had seizures, they are not communion once u get your first or second letter you start to get an idea of how strict our customs really are.

Dont be fooled by how naive they are, they truly are the best at what they do.

Our customs isn't bad, I've ordered a lot of gear and its all made it so far...