Hey Guys, this is my first cycle ever im starting with SD-10 and a organ sheild both oral i also have a pct just wondering if any one has used this and if anyone has any suggestions im 6'1" 160 pounds with 12%bf
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Hey Guys, this is my first cycle ever im starting with SD-10 and a organ sheild both oral i also have a pct just wondering if any one has used this and if anyone has any suggestions im 6'1" 160 pounds with 12%bf
"Even sexier than Siggy"
age?... and oral only cycle is never ideal... test should be the base of any cycle
"Even sexier than Siggy"
And as a side note, everyone is going to tell you that you are no where near ready to start cycling. You have built no base for yourself.
Anabolic Member
i would suggest you put the SD down and pick up a couple of steaks instead...Originally Posted by Aesthetics006
some chicken, rice, and a few veggies would help too...
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im currently 24 and just for the record I am a very very skinney guy ive been working out for about a year and put on a lot of muscle i was 138 it seemed unhealthy and also my diet is very clean and stricked i take in 4000-4500 calories aday with a 40% protein 40% carbs 20% fats. I dont want to use test because through research ive found that i dont want the chance of messin with my natural test. im useing and oral steroid because i dont want the hassel of needles. i also dont want to pack on massivs ammounts of muscle the max i want to be is 200lbs and thats several years down the road
Anabolic Member
what do you think SD is going to do in regards to your natural test production???
Anabolic Member
keep eating your 4000+ cals a day, and you will get to 200 lbs soon enough...
New Member
it will temporaly mess with it but not long term so thats what ive heard from previous users of SD and i will continue with my 4000+ cals but im going to continue this cycle but thx for the advance one question and no hate intended brah if your so anti steroids why r u on this fourm
Anabolic Member
if you say so....
Knowledgeable Member
Where did Kronik say he was anti-steroids? No wonder you think SD-10 won't shut down your test or cause long term issues. You can't read.
Anabolic Member
and no im not 'anti-steroid' im just trying to help you make the right decision, which would be for you to get a solid base first with diet and training, and then use AAS to help you further your gains...
but your body brah, do to it as you wish...
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Superdrol will mess with your natural test production the same as injecting testosterone.
If you use an oral only, you will shrink just as fast as you grew once you stop taking the pills. It's unfortunate, but it's just how it works.
The point of PCT is to restart your natural testosterone production.
If you're dead set on running superdrol, I am going to recommend this:
Wk 1-4 superdrol 20mg/day + Organ shield + (You should invest in UDCA or TUDCA 500mg-1000mg/day, these are the only legitimate liver protectants out there worth buying)
Wk 1-12 Testosterone Enanthate 500mg/wk.
Wk 14-17 PCT of Nolva and Clomid. [nolva 40/20/20/20, clomid 50/50/50/50]
Running the testosterone for 7-8 wks past the superdrol will help you keep more of what you gained from the SD, not to mention give you more gains.
The reason people are saying that you don't need to run a cycle yet is because you are likely to hurt yourself, as your joints and connective tissues are more than likely not developed enough.
The VERY FAST strength gains from SD will make you strong enough to damage tendons, ligaments, etc. So if you're going to run this, careful with how fast you increase the weight for your exercises.
At 6'1 160lbs, you have SO MUCH MORE you can gain with out steroids. You can easily hit 200lbs naturally, and pretty quickly too.
If you're worried about messing with your natural testosterone production, you need to understand that ANY STEROID will mess with it.
"Even sexier than Siggy"
guys, no point continuing to respond, this pretty much sums it up right here...
its too bad really, 3 other people took the advice they asked for tonight and made the right choice... always got to be one each day that makes you shake your head
Knowledgeable Member
Exactly. Too many of these young kids think they have life all figured out. After he screws himself up, he can spend more time reading how to fix himself.
Truth is, these kids could learn a lot and actually know something about this stuff. Instead, they let arrogance and pride fill their head with garbage.
When he needs help later, and he will, someone else can straighten him out.
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Look guys anti steroid was the wrong was top say so sorry if i offened you kronik but it seems like u dont support the use so thats what i meant. Also Muscle Ink i didnt say it wouldnt mess with it i said it wont long term because of the pct and never said anything about long term effects so you dont got to be an a$$hole and say i cant read ive done more research than you think and i dont know everything but i know enough i came here for advice and thanked kronik for his just because i dont use it dont mean i dont understand it and another thing i wontnt to 200 quickly other wise id be alot closer cause i might not now a lot about roids but i know alot about training and i just have shit genetics so thank you all for the help and iff anyone has advice about my cycle besides to stop bplease im all ears nd thx bbj200 for the advice ill look into it
aka "JOB"
Ip check is under way...will this be the 5th or 6th time you have been banned Sharmabrah???
Senior Member
I don't think it's him. Sharmabrah always maintained literacy despite all the different personalities he's had
New Member
who is Sharmabrah
New Member
wait??? do u think im Sharmabrah?
Senior Member
A kid just like you that insisted steroids were the answer when he ate like a f*cking girl and was afraid of needles. He was annoying as hell and looked up to Zyzz which I'm sure you do as well judging from your username. He was banned multiple times due to arguing and trolling other members. He decided to run an Anavar only cycle and cut it short due to the fact he acknowledged he made a mistake and regretted his decision of using AAS in the first place. We haven't heard from him since itsept him posting asking members what he should run for PCT.
The bottom line is at your stats and age a good lifting routine combined with a huge surplus of calories is all you need to gain weight. Not Prohormones which for all you know could be pills loaded with flour
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oh ok ya well im not tryin to make a problem and i idk who that is i also know i can gain weight naturally but im just boosting my gains with SD and i like the idea of aesthetics and dont really like zyzz that much. I have a solid source and its not just pills of "flour". So does Lunk 1 think im getting banned? am i being a problem?
Senior Member
It's your body and you can do whatever you want to it but don't come back here resenting members when you're f*cked up for not convincing you to not do it. They provided all the information you need trying to convince you to wait. I wouldn't bother with Superdrol though and just run a Testosterone cycle. Look up MickeyKnox's "Most Common Beginners Cycles" thread. You will still get phenomenal gains provided your diet and workout routine is in check without destroying the only liver you get.
Don't worry about Lunk, he was just trying to bait you in and reveal you if you truly were Sharmabrah
New Member
i just looked that up thats got some great info thanks for that i guess ill start using some test but ive been told its worse to stop mid cycle then to finish it is that true and should i finish this one
Senior Member
You've already started?
New Member
only a couple days in but yes
Senior Member
Stop immediately, it's not worth it. Just throw the stuff in the trash or put it on a shelf in your closet
New Member
Why cause i wont keep any of my gains
Senior Member
If you're truly a couple of days in I doubt you've gained anything
New Member
no im sayin is it not worth taking cause i wont truly benifit from it will i just lose my gains when im done or is there another reason you say not to
Senior Member
Just go with basic Testosterone for your first cycle and see how your body reacts. Store the Superdrol for later. If you take both and experience side effects you won't know which compound is causing them. Don't really like the thought of Prohormones either
New Member
alright thx for the info ill just stop this cycle now and try again after i try some test
Associate Member
Hi man,
I'm not going to grind you about your SD cycle, because I just finished a SD only cycle. What I would like to know is, how much did you read up on SD? Did you only read up what people gained? How much did you research a test cycle?
I'm asking this because you seem to change the cycle very quickly from one to another... You have not mentioned anything about HCG or an AI... I'm not saying that choice is wrong at all, but don't you think it is best to do a lot of research about this, and then put all the fact together and then make an informed decision?
It is crucial that YOU know what YOU put in your body. The guys on this forum, really know their stuff, and give solid advise, but in the end, YOU have to live with the consequences...
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hey thx for the advice and i am stopping the sd cycle but im not atarting the test cycle yet stil not sure what im gonna do... ive definetly got some more research to do but if u dont mind me asking how did your cycle go and bad sides and how much have you retained
Associate Member
I'm glad you want to read up some more.
See link for detail about my cycle. Its a long read, but its worth it. You can get the whole picture there.
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...)#.UTWZFvoazTp
Not finished PCT yet but so far I have kept all my gains. SD is known to have lean gains, unlike orals such as dbol.
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