looking for help with first cycle

[calebanacker]

Alright ive alread read the whole thing about being to young to do steroids because of the adverse affects ot can have on the body because it hasnt fully matured yet,and ive already decided that i want to do this,so incase you older members decide to tell me this,its been noted

So i want to bulk up,and over the years ive done those oral pro hormones and ive seen some gain but not too much,so ive decided to do the real stuff.I would just like to know what steroids would be good for a beginner to bulk up on?

Im 22,170 lbs,and im in really good shape
i just want to gain alot of muscle weight.

Any advice on what ones to use and how to go about my first cycle would help!
Ive read that deca and test is one of the best for bulking? But ive also read that tren does also because the muscle gains are of better quality and they stay around longer? Any help?

Thanks for any help fellas!!!

[austinite]

Welcome,

What's your height and body fat percentage?

[calebanacker]

thank you! im 5'10 and my BF is 13%

[austinite]

thank you! im 5'10 and my BF is 13%

Well, considering you said you've done PH cycles and been training for years, how on earth are you only 170 lbs? I'll go ahead and answer that for you... your diet is in dire need of an evaluation.

Regardless of age, you won't see anything whatsoever if you're not eating right. That's why your previous cycles had little to no results. I can't recommend that you start running gear before you fix your diet. Diet has nothing to do with age, so this advice applies to everyone.

Hit the nutrition section and let them know what your diet is so that they can critique it for you. Hate to see you waste time and money on something that is just setting you up for failure.

Best of luck, I'm sure others will chime in so you can get varying opinions.

[calebanacker]

Agreed,ima go check into it now,its not that ive been 170 all my life its just what im at now,ive slacked at the gym alot,ive been heavier then 170,my max weight when i was at my peak was close to 200,but i dont have a huge frame,and my body mostly has lean muscle,what i am looking for is bigger thicker muscle,i know how to diet and all its just that my last cycles were either just garbage or something. right now i have legit stuff.But no worries i will also look into the nutrition section

[Times Roman]

Mate,

If' you've read the whole thing about being too young for steroids, then you should also know that we do not advise when we feel you are too young. We get hundreds of youngsters every month that ask the same thing. Hit the search button as I don't think anyone here will be willing to advise knowing you should still probably wait a couple more years.

Good luck!
---Roman

[songdog]

Agreed,ima go check into it now,its not that ive been 170 all my life its just what im at now,ive slacked at the gym alot,ive been heavier then 170,my max weight when i was at my peak was close to 200,but i dont have a huge frame,and my body mostly has lean muscle,what i am looking for is bigger thicker muscle,i know how to diet and all its just that my last cycles were either just garbage or something. right now i have legit stuff.But no worries i will also look into the nutrition section

So then if your diet was good you wouldnt of lost all that weight.You need to feed that new muscle.

[MuscleInk]

So then if your diet was good you wouldnt of lost all that weight.You need to feed that new muscle.

^^^Correct! Nutrition comes BEFORE anything. You can't grow if you aren't eating and your macros aren't planned correctly for LEAN growth. Everyone comes here with the "my diet is in check" comments or they cut and paste a diet they've seen somewhere but if you don't have a proper nutrition plan that you can stay committed to, you'll never see your true potential from gear.

[crazy mike]

I wouldn't go there about your age. You will just dismiss me and do what you want. So as Roman said your help and guidance on here will most likely be slim.
You say you've read but you need to read more. Don't rush this. You gonna do what someone says when you don't have a clue as to why or what to expect or know why. You , for your best interest should read the steroid profiles and much, much more. Why always test. THERE IS A REASON, dammit. Why Ai, there are reasons and you should know why, not just because this guy crazy mike said that's the ticket. Learn what you are doing before you jump out in traffic. That's all I tell a young know it all who comes with questions but know better. ...crazy mike educate

[crazy mike]

Dad, another one !!!!!!



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