Best Fat Melting Steroid to Take with Testosterone?

[VenicePump]

We all know testosterone is a hell of a leaner as well and can be used for practically anything. However what else exist out there that can be stacked with testosterone. Something that will cause your body to just melt fat (without increasing your appetite)?

BTW I diet hardcore practically 7 days a week. I also train 4 days a week training each body part once a week. I do cardio as well.

[austinite]

Do you mean one that actually makes fat disappear with no effort on your part?

[snowblowjoe]

Tren causes lipolysis. Which means burning of fat I believe

[VenicePump]

Tren causes lipolysis. Which means burning of fat I believe

Yea that's what I was thinking too.

[austinite]

Tren does not burn fat.

[snowblowjoe]

I read somewhere it causes lipolysis. One of the reasons you sweat so bad. From personal experience I can see that being true.

[swm1972]

Steroids don't burn fat. Steroids allow the user to jncrease their lean muscle mass therefore raising their base metabolic rate. That can result in losing fat. But any anabolic agent that promotes lean mass accomplishes this.

[curioususer]

Tren ace

[ironbeck]

Steroids don't burn fat. Steroids allow the user to jncrease their lean muscle mass therefore raising their base metabolic rate. That can result in losing fat. But any anabolic agent that promotes lean mass accomplishes this.

Well put.....

[MajorPectorial]

surely thermals?, clen etc

[songdog]

Stop being lazy and looking for short cuts.Beacuse the dont exist.DIET N CARDIO!

[ironbeck]

Stop being lazy and looking for short cuts.Beacuse the dont exist.DIET N CARDIO!

Its a true and tried fact!(cardio and diet)...........basically using clen imo....why don't you just go on a meth binge for a couple days and drop 15 lbs....

[poloblue]

Clen, treadmill and clean foods... January I'm 205lbs, by first week of April I'm 165lbs... I'm 5 weeks in on sus and chillin at 172-175lbs looking sexy as hell... Just sounds like you are just plain lazy ass hell and well never accomplish the beach body look....

[MajorPectorial]

Its a true and tried fact!(cardio and diet)...........basically using clen imo....why don't you just go on a meth binge for a couple days and drop 15 lbs....

Lol@meth binge. Few lines. Pipe. Dance for couple weeks. >_<

Diet is really the true key to.all aspects. But. Stacking wise. What are ppls thoughts on t3 n the like?(taking out the "cheating" aspect) and simply looking at it from a stacking point if view. Anyone stacked say test/tren/clen*or*t3? effective?, or only effective short term?,

[poloblue]

Clen, treadmill and clean foods... January I'm 205lbs, by first week of April I'm 165lbs... I'm 5 weeks in on sus and chillin at 172-175lbs looking sexy as hell... Just sounds like you are just plain lazy ass hell and well never accomplish the beach body look....

These three are "king" for burning fat and cutting.. Period!!!

[MuscleInk]

This is a popular theme today - people looking for a quick fix to lose weight. Bottom line, fat accumulates over time. You don't wake up one morning 20lbs fatter than the day before so WHY would you expect to lose the fat faster!?!

Move more, eat less!!!! Fix your nutrition and increase your cardio. There are very few short cuts in life and there certainly aren't any in fitness.

Thermogenic and stimulant compounds are only short term fixes. It's your lifestyle that created the fat so FIX YOUR LIFESTYLE! Any supplement that promotes weight loss will lose efficacy over time and until you chose a nutrition and cardio plan that will sustain lean body mass, your are deluded thinking a pill or a needle is the answer.

[snowblowjoe]

Treadmill is king for cutting? That's laughable lol

[austinite]

Treadmill is king for cutting? That's laughable lol

Your knowledge level is laughable. Literally.

[snowblowjoe]

Good one austinite. Are you on trt? Just curious

[VenicePump]

Not looking for quick fix. I diet 7 days a week monitoring every calorie that goes into my body. I been training for 8+ years and dieting hardcore for 7+ years. I eat nothing, but clean foods. I have solid abs (as anyone will tell you), but looking to lean out more (some stubborn fat).

I train 4-5 days a week and do nice cardio workouts.

Right now just looking to get an edge on things. As I been doing this for some quite time now.

[Live for the PUMP]

Good one austinite. Are you on trt? Just curious

Why would you ask someone that? Especially considering his title.

[AlinSR]

I wonder what causes more lipolysis, meth, or tren?

[snowblowjoe]

I don't want to assume. I just find it ironic he talks down to people about knowledge yet he wasn't knowledgeable enough to keep his self off trt for the rest of his life.

[MuscleInk]

I wonder what causes more lipolysis, meth, or tren?

I believe that's rather obvious. The latter is a stimulant that elevates BMR and suppresses appetite.....but certainly not recommended for weight management!!!

[kelkel]

I don't want to assume. I just find it ironic he talks down to people about knowledge yet he wasn't knowledgeable enough to keep his self off trt for the rest of his life.

You should seriously rethink that statement. No one, at least no one I've ever met who is somewhat intelligent wants to be on TRT. And Austinite is very intelligent. There's usually a medical reason for people on TRT. Be it be it age related or you wake up one day with a tumor at the base of your brain like I did.

To say someone is not smart enough to keep themselves off of TRT very simply shows your ignorance. Grow up. With age comes wisdom. Come back in 10 years. It takes a lot to piss me off. Your statement achieved it.

[sugarmaple]

What's the best website for ordering aas?

[Doom44]

What's the best website for ordering aas?

Hey man. Do you know the rule?

[MuscleInk]

What's the best website for ordering aas?

No sourcing on this board!

[snowblowjoe]

Kelkel, I wasn't referring to you.

[MuscleInk]

Kelkel, I wasn't referring to you.

That wasn't the point SBJ. There are plenty of members here on TRT that have never used steroids. Your comment implies that anyone on TRT wasn't knowledgable enough to prevent it.

[snowblowjoe]

I was being specific towards austinite. I wasn't saying everyone on trt wasn't knowledgeable. Just him in particular.

[Emerald]

You should seriously rethink that statement. No one, at least no one I've ever met who is somewhat intelligent wants to be on TRT. And Austinite is very intelligent. There's usually a medical reason for people on TRT. Be it be it age related or you wake up one day with a tumor at the base of your brain like I did.

To say someone is not smart enough to keep themselves off of TRT very simply shows your ignorance. Grow up. With age comes wisdom. Come back in 10 years. It takes a lot to piss me off. Your statement achieved it.

I'm on TRT and have never been happier thank you. Add a sprinkle of deca and my libido is higher than ever, and I do mean ever, I'm 52.

[poloblue]

Good one austinite. Are you on trt? Just curious

Sounds like your raging over the fact that there is no snow for you to blow at the moment joe...

[snowblowjoe]

Haha. I came up with this handle during a snowstorm like 10 years ago. It's random and does sound pretty gay I guess. Oh well

[poloblue]

Well then keep the name the same... You had it for over ten years and it reminds you of an important time in your life... No need to change it and have fun with the shit that comes with it..

[crazy mike]

Stop being lazy and looking for short cuts.Beacuse the dont exist.DIET N CARDIO!

Yea HA ! ...crazy mike

[crazy mike]

Haha. I came up with this handle during a snowstorm like 10 years ago. It's random and does sound pretty gay I guess. Oh well

Tell DSM about it, Haaa. ...crazy mike

[lolfb]

Tren does not burn fat.

Steroids don't burn fat. Steroids allow the user to jncrease their lean muscle mass therefore raising their base metabolic rate. That can result in losing fat. But any anabolic agent that promotes lean mass accomplishes this.

This doesn't add up to all the information on tren. Tren isn't like any other steroid when talking about fat. Fat cells have androgen receptors too, tren can bind to these and cause lipolysis.


From steroid.com wiki

Trenbolone is extraordinarily good as a fat loss agent. One reason for this is its powerful effect on nutrient partitioning (9). It is a little known fact is that androgen receptors are found in fat cells as well as muscle cells(10), androgens act directly on the A.R in fat cells to affect fat burning.(11) the stronger the androgen binds to the A.R, the higher the lipolytic (fat burning) effect on adipose tissue (fat)(11). Since some steroids even increase the numbers of A.R in muscle and fat (11, 12) this fat loss effect would be amplified with the concurrent use of other compounds, such as Testosterone.

The cortisol reducing effect and binding to the glucocorticoid receptor will greatly reduce the catabolic effects of harsh dieting and excessive amounts of cardio and not to mention that Finaplix itself may burn fat (due to its strong AR-binding).

[Metalject]

There have been studies that have shown when a steroid binds strongly to the androgen receptor it may increase the rate of lipolysis. This is why Trenbolone is sometimes said to possess fat burning abilities. There have also been studies that have shown Anavar to directly promote lipolysis. Anavar and even Winstrol have also been used clinically in obese individuals who have difficulty losing weight due to hormonal issues.

Does any of this mean you don't have to diet? Of course it doesn't mean that. Excess calories regardless of the substances you're putting in your body will not allow you to burn fat. However, studies aside some steroids definitely aid in dieting more than others or rather have a stronger effect towards the desired end more than others. If that wasn't the case every single bodybuilder on earth would only use test, Deca and Dbol for all their cycles regardless of what they're trying to do.

[lolfb]

There have been studies that have shown when a steroid binds strongly to the androgen receptor it may increase the rate of lipolysis. This is why Trenbolone is sometimes said to possess fat burning abilities. There have also been studies that have shown Anavar to directly promote lipolysis. Anavar and even Winstrol have also been used clinically in obese individuals who have difficulty losing weight due to hormonal issues.

Does any of this mean you don't have to diet? Of course it doesn't mean that. Excess calories regardless of the substances you're putting in your body will not allow you to burn fat. However, studies aside some steroids definitely aid in dieting more than others or rather have a stronger effect towards the desired end more than others. If that wasn't the case every single bodybuilder on earth would only use test, Deca and Dbol for all their cycles regardless of what they're trying to do.

Well that's obviously the case with anything. Even meth and dnp. If you eat 5k cals every day, you're obviously not going to lose weight, doesn't matter what kind of compound you're on. But with tren, if you eat calorie maintenance, you are going to lose fat.