Need help with losing weight on Anavar + Questions about T3 and Clen

[thrw.w4y]

First off, I'm asking for a friend who's currently on a cutting cycle so these questions aren't for me.

Background Information:
Anyways, he's been running Anavar at 40mg per day (split dosage + Test E and creatine) but he hasn't been losing any weight. He didn't take Test P because he doesn't want to pin that often. He's eating 500 cals below maintenance and has been doing cardio for 20 minutes everyday (high intensity jogging, no rest) but his weight has stayed the same. He is still getting stronger in the gym though despite being in a caloric deficit. Keep in mind, his goal is to get cut. He is satisfied with the amount of muscle mass he has and is only looking at fat loss (and keeping muscle) right now. His weight has stayed the same for 2 weeks now.

Questions:
1. What is causing this? Is it the creatine or anavar? Is this normal?
2. Is it because he's gaining more muscle mass?
3. How should he lose fat? Should he increase cardio, decrease cals even more, or do both? Or should he stop the anavar?

Bonus Questions:
(*these ones are for myself, as I will also be starting my cutting cycle next summer, so they're unrelated to the main topic)

1. What's the difference between T3 (Cytomel) and Clenbuterol? Should you run them together or should you run one over the other?
2. Can you use Clenbuterol during PCT if your goal is to lose fat?
3. I have high blood pressure (Stage 1 Hypertension from taking steroids), so can I still run Clenbuterol or would that be dangerous?
4. Can someone give me a Clenbuterol cycle?

Thanks.

[numbere]

Without having more information, if this is your friends first two weeks if the cycle then he's likely not losing weight due to an increase in glycogen and nitrogen retention.

If he wishes to lose bf then he needs to continue eating below maintenance while moving more than normally.

Not to be rude but I'm not going to do your homework for you, you can research t3 and clen then come to your own conclusion.

You can use clen during PCT but imo it's not a good idea because there's a stronger possibly of losing muscle tissue.

You should stay away from both clen and t3 if you are hypertensive.

I will not give you a clen cycle but I will critique one.

[songdog]

Well tell your friend to join and post up his stats and we will help him.But I will give you this free tip! AAS isnt a diet aid.DIET and CARDIO!

[The Deadlifting Dog]

Also if you have high blood pressure then you shouldn't use steroids.

[thrw.w4y]

Without having more information, if this is your friends first two weeks if the cycle then he's likely not losing weight due to an increase in glycogen and nitrogen retention.

If he wishes to lose bf then he needs to continue eating below maintenance while moving more than normally.

Not to be rude but I'm not going to do your homework for you, you can research t3 and clen then come to your own conclusion.

You can use clen during PCT but imo it's not a good idea because there's a stronger possibly of losing muscle tissue.

You should stay away from both clen and t3 if you are hypertensive.

I will not give you a clen cycle but I will critique one.

He's in week 6 right now and he was losing weight for the first 4 weeks but has plateau'd despite already increasing the cardio. He doesn't have any cheat days and his diet is clean.

I have done my research and the only reason I would ever post questions here is because the information is not specific enough. A lot of the information that I look through on forums are people that take these compounds but don't know why or how it works.

The only reason I ask for a clen cycle here is because the other ones found online are extremely outdated (early 2000s) so I can't tell if they can be trusted or not.

Also, I'm only hypertensive because of the AAS I'm on right now. I've never had high blood pressure in the past and it only goes up when I'm using AAS.

Well tell your friend to join and post up his stats and we will help him.But I will give you this free tip! AAS isnt a diet aid.DIET and CARDIO!

I would tell him to sign up but a lot of people are really judgmental on here and unless you have the patience for it, you probably wouldn't get any answers. Half the time I post on this site is me explaining about my situation rather than receiving actual advice. I give as much background information as I can but if I miss something, people pick on it forever until you clear it up. I wouldn't want to let anyone else experience that. I'm only here because I already have an account and because I actually do my research before starting any kind of AAS.

My friend is 6'2, 225lbs, 14% body fat (DEXA scan so this percentage is accurate). He's been working out since he was 16 years old and he's now 28 years old (that's 12 years of experience + plus he plays rugby and hockey). He definitely knows how to diet and cardio but this is the first time he's even thought about using AAS.

We're not fatties looking for a quick fix for fat loss. We're both athletes that are completely new to AAS. If you must know, my stats are 26 years old, 5'9, 185lbs, 12% body fat (also accurate because of DEXA scan, although I am bulking on AAS right now so that percentage might have changed) and have been training for 8 years.

Also if you have high blood pressure then you shouldn't use steroids.

I didn't have high blood pressure before I started AAS. Steroids raised my blood pressure. To be honest, I don't understand how someone can maintain low blood pressure while cycling.

[TRA]

I think your friend would benefit by being on the site himself. People here are extremely knowledgeable and friendly, and if they want to know details it's because they want to give sound information with someone's best interest in mind first and foremost.

[ScotchGuard02]

First off, I'm asking for a friend who's currently on a cutting cycle so these questions aren't for me.

Background Information:
Anyways, he's been running Anavar at 40mg per day (split dosage + Test E and creatine) but he hasn't been losing any weight. He didn't take Test P because he doesn't want to pin that often. He's eating 500 cals below maintenance and has been doing cardio for 20 minutes everyday (high intensity jogging, no rest) but his weight has stayed the same. He is still getting stronger in the gym though despite being in a caloric deficit. Keep in mind, his goal is to get cut. He is satisfied with the amount of muscle mass he has and is only looking at fat loss (and keeping muscle) right now. His weight has stayed the same for 2 weeks now.

Questions:
1. What is causing this? Is it the creatine or anavar? Is this normal? Not being able to lose weight is not uncommon. Eating a deficit is good but really, calories are just a single point of measurement. There may be many things going on with his body. If he has low Testosterone, he may have a problem burning fat. Neither creatine nor anavar should give you a plateau in weight loss. Let me clarify. If your friend was losing weight with diet and cardio and when he took creatine he stopped losing weight, ok you might have something there. The problem with taking multiple compounds at the same time is that you're not able to isolate the cause of the plateau. Both creatine and anavar will hold some water but I'm not convinced that this is the cause of the weight loss plateau.

2. Is it because he's gaining more muscle mass? The way to test this is to measure body parts. If you're the same weight but you're losing inches around your waist and increasing the size of your arms, then I would say that there is a case for not losing weight because of increase in muscle mass. You need to measure body fat and not just total weight. Total weight may remain constant due to increase in muscle mass. If you measure body fat, you can calculate lean body mass (total weight - body fat). This is a better indicator of if your friend is losing weight.

3. How should he lose fat? Should he increase cardio, decrease cals even more, or do both? Or should he stop the anavar? Honestly, I don't know why he's taking anavar to lose weight. That's not a good choice for weight loss. The best way to lose fat is to continue doing what he's doing with the cardio and eating a caloric deficit. Also, you should tell your friend that the calories he's taking in should be clean. Not all calories are the same. 200 grams of potato chips will not affect your body the same way as 200 grams of sweet potato. If he's been taking creatine before he started to lose weight, then stay on it. Your body should be in homeostasis and the creatine should be a constant in the body. Initially, the weight comes off fast because you're taking down the water in the body. Taking down the subcutaneous fat takes time. I've been dieting down from 14% body fat at 210lbs and now I'm 7% body fat at 193lbs. It's taken me 18 weeks to get here.

Bonus Questions:
(*these ones are for myself, as I will also be starting my cutting cycle next summer, so they're unrelated to the main topic)

1. What's the difference between T3 (Cytomel) and Clenbuterol? Should you run them together or should you run one over the other? T3 is a thyroid hormone to stimulate body metabolism. Clen is a bronchial dilator that increases body metabolism. They basically do the same things but through different channels. I take both when I am cutting.

2. Can you use Clenbuterol during PCT if your goal is to lose fat? Yes, you can but you're gonna lose a lot of your gains.

3. I have high blood pressure (Stage 1 Hypertension from taking steroids), so can I still run Clenbuterol or would that be dangerous? Your body metabolism's going to increase and your bp will rise with clen. It's pretty strong stuff. If you have hypertension, I would not recommend you get on clen. Diet and cardio always works without any additional compounds.

4. Can someone give me a Clenbuterol cycle? I would not recommend you run clen.

Thanks.

Your friend needs to be patient. It's going to take a while, maybe up to 20 weeks, to see significant weight loss results. Your body is extremely smart and will adapt to change. Your friend need to maintain the cardio and caloric deficit long enough to get past the plateau and start burn subQ fat. Good luck.

[thrw.w4y]

Maybe it's just me, or the pain of the blinding glare of codependency, but I find it bizarre that people post on here about their "friends." Trying to protect someone from the fact that people want to know details here in order to make statements that are helpful...again, simply bizarre.

It's not "protecting". The thing about these "details" is that you never really know what you're supposed to post. I gave as much information as I thought would be needed but apparently it wasn't enough.

The reason I post for him is because I already have an account (he doesn't) and I had a few questions to ask myself. That, and he's also a meathead and doesn't have the patience for this stuff (and by stuff I mean interacting with this community). This place just reeks of elitism.

Think about it this way. People just want straight-forward answers but you also have to jump through so many loopholes just to get to them. Some people don't have the patience for it. Of course, no offense to anyone because I do admit I've had great help here.

Your friend needs to be patient. It's going to take a while, maybe up to 20 weeks, to see significant weight loss results. Your body is extremely smart and will adapt to change. Your friend need to maintain the cardio and caloric deficit long enough to get past the plateau and start burn subQ fat. Good luck.

Thanks for the reply. It answered all of my questions perfectly. Liked + Repped.

[numbere]

He's in week 6 right now and he was losing weight for the first 4 weeks but has plateau'd despite already increasing the cardio. He doesn't have any cheat days and his diet is clean.

I have done my research and the only reason I would ever post questions here is because the information is not specific enough. A lot of the information that I look through on forums are people that take these compounds but don't know why or how it works.

The only reason I ask for a clen cycle here is because the other ones found online are extremely outdated (early 2000s) so I can't tell if they can be trusted or not.

Also, I'm only hypertensive because of the AAS I'm on right now. I've never had high blood pressure in the past and it only goes up when I'm using AAS.

I don't know what to tell you about your friends weight loss.

It's difficult enough giving advice online and through a proxy only makes things more difficult.

Imo should tell your friend to consult with a dietitian.

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From my experience the best way to run clen is take 80mcg then take your body temp few hours later.

If your temp goes up then stay with that dose. If it doesn't increase then take an extra 20mcg every day until your temp rises.

This method will allow you to find a dose that will help you lose weight while reducing the negative sides.

Clen is a β2 agonist and your body will build up a tolerance quickly.

The best way around this it to reset your β2 receptors by taking 1mg of keto every night.

Alternatively you can cycle it 2 weeks on 2 weeks off.

If you begin to experience cramps then 3-5+mg/ED of taurine should help.

[TRA]

Yeah, I edited my initial response to not be such a pennis, but I do disagree with elitism. My perception is many of the knowledgeable members here (male and female alike) understand the gravity of using AAS and related compounds without knowledge, without preparation and without working out the details. And if there is elitism they've probably earned that right by the hard work and study. I appreciate the resource here - it's invaluable.
If an open forum doesn't work there are knowledgeable people with whom I have had great success in pm format.
Good luck to you and your buddy.

[cyounger100]

I don't understand these post . It's 2016 why wouldn't your friend just join and ask himself ? Are you saying your friend has no access to the internet he has no cell phone etc. but can afford anavar lmao ? And the question's for yourself there are ton's of thread's esp how to run clen .

[Cupid]

Please tell your "friend"....
1. Get on the board himself
2. If he goes 2 weeks without losing any weight and he is working out and dieting, more than likely, he does not know what he is doing.
3. If he isn't on AI, water retention could be an issue in the scale showing the same number
4. If you can't cut without AAS, you can't cut with AAS.
5. Hypertension = clen/t3 big no-no

Lastly, if he wants genuine advice, we need to talk to him, as there are so many factors that could be in play - and I am willing to bet that he DOES NOT know how to diet properly, however I am not sure if he is willing to swallow that.
If he is looking to not change anything in his workout and diet routine or at least give us a complete picture of WTF he is doing (so we could see if there is indeed a gear related issue) but rather find someone on here who can give him a magic pill to his problems.....wait some time, I am sure it will come around, eventually.

[Mr.BB]

Think you had a lot of good answers for your questions, so I'll just satisfy my curiosity

May I ask how much you guys paid for the dexa scan? Considering it myself, just that.

Congratz on achieving 12% dexa man... you must look shredded! Any pics?