Help cycle advice and your opinion.

[Vomarki]

Hello I'm 25 year old
I'm train for 4 years,
My first cycle was only tbol 5 week.
5 month ago I'm done my secon cycle
Test prop 6 week 100 mg eod and tbol 30 mg ed pct was only clomid 50/50/50/50.
Yeastarday im pass analysis
Free test 20,8 reference 15-50 pg/ml
Total test 415,0 reference 160-853 ng/dl
Prolactin 11,0 reference 2.5-17.0 ng/ml
Е2 <20.0 reference 0-56 pg/ml
I think my T level not easy recover
What cycle you reccomend me for easy recover t level ?
Test +tbol , or primo +tbol , or only tbol?
This before and after

[Quester]

-Good job on the gains.
-Maybe try the Scally's Power PCT
-How long since PCT? It can take a while after PCT to reach your natural number.
-Do you know your T levels before? Maybe that is the natural number.

[KennyJ]

Hello I'm 25 year old
I'm train for 4 years,
My first cycle was only tbol 5 week.
5 month ago I'm done my secon cycle
Test prop 6 week 100 mg eod and tbol 30 mg ed pct was only clomid 50/50/50/50.
Yeastarday im pass analysis
Free test 20,8 reference 15-50 pg/ml
Total test 415,0 reference 160-853 ng/dl
Prolactin 11,0 reference 2.5-17.0 ng/ml
Е2 <20.0 reference 0-56 pg/ml
I think my T level not easy recover
What cycle you reccomend me for easy recover t level ?
Test +tbol , or primo +tbol , or only tbol?
This before and after

Personally if you’re gonna use AAS you might as well run longer cycles. IMO if you’re gonna shut yourself down with synthetic drugs you may as well go ahead and take advantage of longer use.

[CA_DXB_85]

Hello I'm 25 year old
I'm train for 4 years,
My first cycle was only tbol 5 week.
5 month ago I'm done my secon cycle
Test prop 6 week 100 mg eod and tbol 30 mg ed pct was only clomid 50/50/50/50.
Yeastarday im pass analysis
Free test 20,8 reference 15-50 pg/ml
Total test 415,0 reference 160-853 ng/dl
Prolactin 11,0 reference 2.5-17.0 ng/ml
Е2 <20.0 reference 0-56 pg/ml
I think my T level not easy recover
What cycle you reccomend me for easy recover t level ?
Test +tbol , or primo +tbol , or only tbol?
This before and after

Your cycles are fairly short; you should aim for 8 to 12 weeks for your next cycle(s) as it usually takes about 4 weeks +/- for the test to build up in your system.

Personally, I always like to have test as a base of all my cycles; the combination is going to depend on your end goal... What are you trying to achieve for your next cycle? Do you want to bulk up to add more muscle mass? Or are you looking to get cut and look lean while keeping the muscle you have added in your previous cycles?

For better recovery you need a better PCT. I like to run HCG at 500iu for 10 days (it helps me recover much quicker when I run my PCT) before start of PCT then run:
Nolva at 40/40/20/20
Clomid at 75/75/50/50

By the way, your after pic looks awesome! Some nice gainz there!

[Vomarki]

I am afraid that I can greatly kill my own testosterone, so I think if I’m not doing cycle for a long time and not strong dosages, I’ll quickly be recovered

[Vomarki]

-Good job on the gains.
-Maybe try the Scally's Power PCT
-How long since PCT? It can take a while after PCT to reach your natural number.
-Do you know your T levels before? Maybe that is the natural number.

I don't know my blood work before use cycle... but after my last cycle and 4 week pct I check, my prolactin was 14.0 , e2 < 20 and test 275
And 5 month I'm dont use anything and checked
My prolactin 11.0 e2 <20 and test 415.0 how do you think it's hard for me to recover?

[MonsterMMORPG]

since you do not have pre cycle blood work hard to tell

but current values seems just a bit lower

[Vomarki]

since you do not have pre cycle blood work hard to tell

but current values seems just a bit lower

Yeah I'm idiot I dont know about steroid when I use first time I think tbol like amino lmao)

[AlphaMindz]

I don't know my blood work before use cycle... but after my last cycle and 4 week pct I check, my prolactin was 14.0 , e2 < 20 and test 275
And 5 month I'm dont use anything and checked
My prolactin 11.0 e2 <20 and test 415.0 how do you think it's hard for me to recover?

What are you trying to achieve? What is the goal you're working towards by using gear?

[Vomarki]

What are you trying to achieve? What is the goal you're working towards by using gear?

Gain a bit for the summer and recover quickly

[AlphaMindz]

Gain a bit for the summer and recover quickly

Ok that's cool. So since you're not trying to have a career in bodybuilding or fitness I would really keep my steroid use to a minimum (1 or 2 cycles a year with plenty of time in between to recover your HPTA).

You will lose a lot of your gains from cycle to cycle of course, but for your purposes you don't need to be growing consistently year round. In your case your pituitary health is more important.

I would only run a trt dose of test to maintain normal sexual function and focus on anabolics like winny and primo. Tbol is fine too.

I would do short blasts for 6-8 weeks using short esters like test prop, winny, primo ace for example and all orals are fast acting so you have the pick of the litter with those lol. Tbol is a good oral but for a beach body I'd run winstrol instead.

If you're worried about recovering your hpta or becoming sterile then the number one thing to be aware of is "continuity of use" or how long you stay on without a break. Dosage is less important than how long you stay on.

This is by far not the best way to use gear IMHO...BUT, for people concerned with keeping hpta healthy and not becoming sterile this is the best way to do it.

[Vomarki]

Ok that's cool. So since you're not trying to have a career in bodybuilding or fitness I would really keep my steroid use to a minimum (1 or 2 cycles a year with plenty of time in between to recover your HPTA).

You will lose a lot of your gains from cycle to cycle of course, but for your purposes you don't need to be growing consistently year round. In your case your pituitary health is more important.

I would only run a trt dose of test to maintain normal sexual function and focus on anabolics like winny and primo. Tbol is fine too.

I would do short blasts for 6-8 weeks using short esters like test prop, winny, primo ace for example and all orals are fast acting so you have the pick of the litter with those lol. Tbol is a good oral but for a beach body I'd run winstrol instead.

If you're worried about recovering your hpta or becoming sterile then the number one thing to be aware of is "continuity of use" or how long you stay on without a break. Dosage is less important than how long you stay on.

This is by far not the best way to use gear IMHO...BUT, for people concerned with keeping hpta healthy and not becoming sterile this is the best way to do it.

Yeah thanks bro !! And can you help mе what pct and dose is needed for primo ace +tbol cycle 6-8 week and for only tbol cycle 6-8? Or are you talking about test prop whith primo or winny or tbol?

[pgc640]

Hello I'm 25 year old
I'm train for 4 years,
My first cycle was only tbol 5 week.
5 month ago I'm done my secon cycle
Test prop 6 week 100 mg eod and tbol 30 mg ed pct was only clomid 50/50/50/50.
Yeastarday im pass analysis
Free test 20,8 reference 15-50 pg/ml
Total test 415,0 reference 160-853 ng/dl
Prolactin 11,0 reference 2.5-17.0 ng/ml
Е2 <20.0 reference 0-56 pg/ml
I think my T level not easy recover
What cycle you reccomend me for easy recover t level ?
Test +tbol , or primo +tbol , or only tbol?
This before and after

Honestly, if I was training you? 750 mgs of test cyp or E, 400 mgs Deca, 50 mg anadrol a day. I'd have you eat a lot and focus on growth and muscle size. That's what you are lacking. But, yes, that's what I'd tell you to use.

[pgc640]

Yeah thanks bro !! And can you help mе what pct and dose is needed for primo ace +tbol cycle 6-8 week and for only tbol cycle 6-8? Or are you talking about test prop whith primo or winny or tbol?

Man PCT for tbol and primo? Sometimes guys are just way too cautious, you do want to grow, correct. Well, there is a happy medium between barely using anything(what you are doing now) and abusing anabolic drugs. My philosophy, if your going to use the shit learn about it and use it correctly not in this BS way.

[Vomarki]

Man PCT for tbol and primo? Sometimes guys are just way too cautious, you do want to grow, correct. Well, there is a happy medium between barely using anything(what you are doing now) and abusing anabolic drugs. My philosophy, if your going to use the shit learn about it and use it correctly not in this BS way.

You think it's stupid to do this cycle primo and tbol?