Cjc 1295 and Ipamorelin along with TB-500

[Brett N]

I am 50 years old, I am wanting to see the benefits of the anti-aging and healing properties as well as leaning me out some. I'm not really wanting to increase my hunger or bulk up.

I am planning on running some Cjc 1295 no dac and Ipamorelin for 6 months. I also have some TB-500 ordered. The stack of CJC and Ipamorelin I plan on starting at 100mcg each before bed and building up to 100mcg each before bed and another 100mcg each after waking. I will be ordering enough where I can do it 3x a day at 100mcg each or 2x a day at 150mcg each. Is it more beneficial to do it 3 pins a day?

I am also going to be doing 8 weeks of TB-500 for its healing properties. I have some shoulder issues and some tendonitis in my left forearm that I'm hoping it will help. Are there any concerns taking all 3 at the same time?

I have not ordered the CJC and Ipamorelin yet, if there's any compounds that might be better for the same affect I would really appreciate the input.

Edit - I am also on TRT. 75mg Test E 2x a week along with 250iu of HCG 2x a week. Not on any ai currently and feel really good. Will any of these peptides do anything to my E2 where I would need to take an AI? I have plenty on hand if so.

[Cylon357]

Add BPC-157 to the TB-500 for the best healing effect. I generally do a single shot a day, 500mcg BPC-157 and 1 mg TB-500.

I would not have any concerns running all 4 peptides at once. You will, however, end up feeling like a pin cushion doing more than one injection a day. This seems trivial until you start doing it...

HGH might be more beneficial than the cjc and ipamorelin, especially combined with the TB-500 and BPC-157.

[Brett N]

Add BPC-157 to the TB-500 for the best healing effect. I generally do a single shot a day, 500mcg BPC-157 and 1 mg TB-500.

I would not have any concerns running all 4 peptides at once. You will, however, end up feeling like a pin cushion doing more than one injection a day. This seems trivial until you start doing it...

HGH might be more beneficial than the cjc and ipamorelin, especially combined with the TB-500 and BPC-157.

It really just comes down to cost. 6 months of HGH is significantly more money, at least enough for me to try this route out first.

Do you always use a 2 to 1 ratio for the BPC? TB-500 I was going to do 5,2.5,2.5,2.5... for 8 weeks. (very similar to Romans TB-500 log) What dose of BPC would i use?

[Cylon357]

It really just comes down to cost. 6 months of HGH is significantly more money, at least enough for me to try this route out first.

Do you always use a 2 to 1 ratio for the BPC? TB-500 I was going to do 5,2.5,2.5,2.5... for 8 weeks. (very similar to Romans TB-500 log) What dose of BPC would i use?

I usually follow 2 to 1 because it is convenient and if doing daily dosing of TB-500, comes out to a good weekly dose. I dont remember the details on Roman's log, but I have a log as well. I domt remember the details on it, either lol, but I explored a lot of things.

Regarding the cost of HGH... you might get pretty close to the same cost of the peptides, depending on doses and how good a deal you get on each. I generally use Peptide Sciences for my peptides, they are expensive but legit. Putting pen to paper, you might be able to get 6 months of hgh for the same price or real close.

[Brett N]

I looked into ordering from Peptide Warehouse. Kelkel recommended them from Roman's log that was stickied. I was able to get the 130mg of blended peptides (65mg each of CJC no dac and Ipamorelin) , 20mg BPC 157 and 10mg of Melanotan II for under 4 bills. 60% discount.

That's enough to pin 300mcg each daily for 30 weeks at that dosing and 0 loss.

I got the TB-500 from there as well before.

[Brett N]

Started taking the CJC 1295 and Ipamorelin Sunday evening. Starting at 150mcg each before bed.

I read to cycle it 5 days on and 2 days off. Is this for health benefits or financial benefits? I have plenty to do 6 months with no question even if I up it to 100mcg each three times a day. So, am I better off to cycle it or run it 7 days a week for the benefits?

[Cylon357]

Started taking the CJC 1295 and Ipamorelin Sunday evening. Starting at 150mcg each before bed.

I read to cycle it 5 days on and 2 days off. Is this for health benefits or financial benefits? I have plenty to do 6 months with no question even if I up it to 100mcg each three times a day. So, am I better off to cycle it or run it 7 days a week for the benefits?

I have read that the 5/2 recommendation is to keep the body maintaining its normal pulse.

[Brett N]

Ok, thanks for the reply.

[RewardingLabor]

Add BPC-157 to the TB-500 for the best healing effect. I generally do a single shot a day, 500mcg BPC-157 and 1 mg TB-500.
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I've read your healing log archive and it doesn't seem like you're really convinced they are working for you ie the results are so minuscule you have trouble even noticing them if they are there at all. Is there anything that is unambiguously helpful?

[Cylon357]

I've read your healing log archive and it doesn't seem like you're really convinced they are working for you ie the results are so minuscule you have trouble even noticing them if they are there at all. Is there anything that is unambiguously helpful?

A good question. Completely unambiguously? No, because this is not a precise science. Subjectively helpful? Yes, though it might be the case that there is a casual effect, not a causal one.

If you read the log, especially the conclusion, you will note that I call out a triceps issue that did resolve. I feel like that was in part because of the peptides. But again, this is not a precise experiment and as a result, I can not say 100% objectively that it would not have resolved itself. I believe the peptides helped, based on past experience, but could not swear on a stack of Bibles that they did.

I DO believe that the ModGrf 1-29 and Ipamorelin stack is a good stack and brings sleep and fat loss benefits, but that comes with two caveats. First, you have to buy quality product. I do not believe that PW carries consistently quality product, BTW, based on my experience with them. Second, the results from these peptides are not revolutionary, rather more incremental. Expecting "tren equivalent" results is going to leave you disappointed, thought the fault is NOT with the product, rather with the preconceived notions about them.

[RewardingLabor]

Expecting "tren equivalent" results is going to leave you disappointed, thought the fault is NOT with the product, rather with the preconceived notions about them.

Does the BPC which helped with your tendon issue kind of counter the "hardness" of the tren? Does it add elasticity to the tissue and make it sort of "stomachy?" So combining the two is good for injury prevention at knees and elbows but BPC is not going to help in like the middle of the quadriceps or the center of the pecs?

And I'm still really confused by the TB-500. I kind of get the elastin-like properties of BPC it makes sense because of where it comes from. I just don't really understand the type of tissue that's going to come from TB-500. Wouldn't it be kind of fatty? Like lymphatic? Why would that ever be a good idea unless you want wagyu (which is never since we aren't making food)? Does the tb-500 go into the space between the bones? So maybe good for bunions or worn labrums?

[Cylon357]

Does the BPC which helped with your tendon issue kind of counter the "hardness" of the tren? Does it add elasticity to the tissue and make it sort of "stomachy?" So combining the two is good for injury prevention at knees and elbows but BPC is not going to help in like the middle of the quadriceps or the center of the pecs?

And I'm still really confused by the TB-500. I kind of get the elastin-like properties of BPC it makes sense because of where it comes from. I just don't really understand the type of tissue that's going to come from TB-500. Wouldn't it be kind of fatty? Like lymphatic? Why would that ever be a good idea unless you want wagyu (which is never since we aren't making food)? Does the tb-500 go into the space between the bones? So maybe good for bunions or worn labrums?

I've never run tren, just used it here as an example.

The rest of your questions are outside of my knowledge.

[RewardingLabor]

I noticed you do subq injections with the bpc and tb500. Is there any reason not to directly inject into the space where your knee is injured? (maybe at reduced dosages?)

[Cylon357]

I noticed you do subq injections with the bpc and tb500. Is there any reason not to directly inject into the space where your knee is injured? (maybe at reduced dosages?)

Two reasons:

1 - no need, they work fine for me systemically.
2 - too much opportunity to screw things up.

That said, I did try pinching some skin down on the quads and injecting there for a bit. It didn't seem to bring much to the game other than an additional injection location (which isn't nothing when you are injecting daily).

[xxblazenlowxx]

My wife was running ipam and cjc for 4 months 300mcg of both. She is now on HGH

Is ipam cheaper then hgh? Her blood work said hgh was cheaper. The ipam and cjc worked but not worth the cost.

[Brett N]

My wife was running ipam and cjc for 4 months 300mcg of both. She is now on HGH

Is ipam cheaper then hgh? Her blood work said hgh was cheaper. The ipam and cjc worked but not worth the cost.

My Ipamorelin and CJC seemed very inexpensive to me. I ordered some other stuff without it and got 40% off. I used the link Kelkel posted int eh Romans TB500 thread (last page) to purchase my peptides. This is more than enough Ipamorelin and CJC to run 300 per day for 6 months. The custom peptide was 5mg of Ipamorelin and 5mg of CJC times 13 vials.

Order details
PRODUCT TOTAL
Custom Peptide - (Select 2 of any Peptides To Be Blended) × 13 $641.29
Melanotan II 10mg × 2 $56.66
BPC-157 5mg × 4 $185.32
Subtotal: $883.27
Discount: -$529.96
Shipping: $9.95 via Priority
Payment method: PAY BY CHECKING ACCOUNT / INSTANT
Total: $363.26

[xxblazenlowxx]

On paper your peptides and mine are cheaper. When we did blood work we found HGH to be cheaper.

We found 300mcg of both was not as affective as 2iu of generic black tops