M1t FAQ

[AGGRESSIVEKUBA]

Great Info

[nsa]

10 pages... Sticky anyone.

[bigordie]

wow this thread has been around for a while...i second that, STICKY

[PunyKid]

Ahhh, so you drink the stuff....I see. I'm in business now. I just need to get my hands on some b5 vitamins and I can start my cycle. I'm gonna keep y'all posted as to my gains and any side effects. I plan on getting to 200. I weigh like 168 right now.

[birsling]

Good luck on your quest puny. It is going to take a lot of hard work, and more than one cycle of M1T to pack on 32lbm, but I wish you luck.

[DAMBIGlsu]

Just an FYI for anyone who cares. I have done 2 M-1-T cycles and my PCT has been different for each. First cycle I gained 17lbs. and kept 15lbs.(lost alil bf% too) on a 6-OXO and Tribulus PCT. Second cycle I gained about 14lbs. and gained another 2lbs. during a PCT of just clomid. Neither of my cycles I used 4-ad first I was slightly lethargic towards the end, second cycle it hit me after 1.5 weeks. Next cycle I am going to use a methyl 4-ad with the M-1-T and probably going to use a nolvedex, clomid, and possibly HCG PCT. Throwing the HCG in there just for fun. I read as much as I could on the post but must have missed the one thing I wanted some other oppions on. Do you think supplementing a tribulus supplement like Vitrix or something similar would help keep natural test levels from completely shutting down. I am not looking for it to keep me from becomeing lethargic just wondering if it would help towards the end. Had someone on another board tell me that taking Tribulus would make it harder to come back. I know a good bit so I didn't want to believe him without getting some other oppions.

Anything would be appreciated, thanks guys. Sorry if it was in here and I didn't see it.

[PunyKid]

Do y'all think it would be a good idea to take Finasteride while on M1T? I mean there is no doubt about it I have the genes for baldness, but I've taken Propecia for 6 months before and it did not help grow back any hair. However, I don't know if it would have prevented further hairloss if I would have been doing a cycle. Should I try it?

[wired-up]

GQSuperman, check your PM's.

[GQSuperman]

would anyone else not recommend this? taking a methyl 4AD with M1T? seems like a lot of stress on the liver.

just wondered when i read this above.

[nsa]

Whats wrong with transdermal 4-ad?

[wired-up]

Whats wrong with transdermal 4-ad?

he said methyl 4AD, not the regular 4AD. the methylated form is much more potent. just like the diff between 1-test and methyl 1-test.

edit: unless the transdermal you're refering to is also M4AD

[rocco78]

would anyone else not recommend this? taking a methyl 4AD with M1T? seems like a lot of stress on the liver.

just wondered when i read this above.

I wouldn't recommend it. No need. I think the transderm 4-AD works amazingly well, with MUCH less stress on the liver. I can't imagine taking more than one meth'd compound at a time. Your body reacts to the toxicity by the 7th day, that's why it makes you so tired and gives you back aches. Your liver is vital, be careful.

[birsling]

Do y'all think it would be a good idea to take Finasteride while on M1T? I mean there is no doubt about it I have the genes for baldness, but I've taken Propecia for 6 months before and it did not help grow back any hair. However, I don't know if it would have prevented further hairloss if I would have been doing a cycle. Should I try it?

I don't know if you should jump into Fina right now bro. Especially if you want to keep your hair. Did I miss your stats? Height, weight, history, etc?

[nsa]

he said methyl 4AD, not the regular 4AD. the methylated form is much more potent. just like the diff between 1-test and methyl 1-test.

edit: unless the transdermal you're refering to is also M4AD

I know its more potent, but the extra potency is not worth the extra stress on your liver.

[AGGRESSIVEKUBA]

think about starting a m1t cycle next month right now im 511-6ft 211lb i was thinking of 15mg of m1t every day taking 1 1/2 tablets inthe morning and the other 1 1/2 at night with all the proper stuff and pct is this a smart idea ???

[Soldier of Misfortune]

Yeah, smart to split it up, thats what youre sposta do. Follow the rest of the sample cycle and youre set.

[PunyKid]

I don't know if you should jump into Fina right now bro. Especially if you want to keep your hair. Did I miss your stats? Height, weight, history, etc?

I am not talking about Fina as in Finaplex or Tren. I am talking about Finasteride, the stuff that is similar to Propecia and is supposed to help stop the steroids from converting to DHT, and thus prevent hair loss. Does anybody know is it worth taking? Or, is it just a big waste of money?

[PunyKid]

I have a question. Why on the sample cycle posted, you have 40 mg of nolvadex ED for the first 2 weeks, but whenever on a regular cycle you take only 20 mg ED for 3 weeks? You understand what I'm saying? Why would you take more when using M1T and 4AD as opposed to taking real testoterone? It's my belief there's much more probabilty of aromitazation when using testosterone as opposed to M!T and 4AD.

[nsa]

Its like that to be on the safe side of things, i wrote that cycle with safety in mind, i am not going to suggest something that i don't know for sure is safe or not.

[sore24/7]

I am not talking about Fina as in Finaplex or Tren. I am talking about Finasteride, the stuff that is similar to Propecia and is supposed to help stop the steroids from converting to DHT, and thus prevent hair loss. Does anybody know is it worth taking? Or, is it just a big waste of money?

finasteride only works well with test. or somthing like 4ad which converts to test. but thats it.

[Chad Walker]

I'm 18 and on my second cycle of M1T, 20mg a day for 3 weeks. Been lifting consistently for three years. Besides stunting my growth (I'm already 6 foot) are there any other adverse side effects that I should be worried about? I am taking milk thistle for any possible liver damage. Diet is in check. This cycle I started stacking Tribulus with the M1T, should this give good results or cause damage of some sort?

Thanks

[PunyKid]

I'm 18 and on my second cycle of M1T, 20mg a day for 3 weeks. Been lifting consistently for three years. Besides stunting my growth (I'm already 6 foot) are there any other adverse side effects that I should be worried about? I am taking milk thistle for any possible liver damage. Diet is in check. This cycle I started stacking Tribulus with the M1T, should this give good results or cause damage of some sort?

Thanks

****, that's a lot to be taking. Most people only do 10 mg a day. How did your first cyle turn out? Don't you know all the side effects steroids can cause. Hair loss, acne, growing boobies, etc. From what I know the Trib is better to run after you get off the M1T for post cylce therapy.

[Chad Walker]

First cycle I gained 12 lbs with amazing results in every lift. Size and strength gains were immense. Much better than with Boldione or 1-Test cycles that I have done in the past. I was mistaken, sorry the tribulus that I have isn't pure, it's part of the Dymatize Nutrition Z-Force anabolic complex. Anything change from that?

[nsa]

Your run the risk of jumbling up your hpta and endocrine system by using things like m1t before your natural test levels plateau. That said, you run the risk and it doesn't neccarily mean you will get messed up. My thinking is why risk it, just keep lifting progressively and eating alot of clean foods.

[Chad Walker]

I'm just going to finish out this cycle (2 weeks left) and see where I am from there. I want to continue lifting permanently... so I might be natural for a few years.

[userabuser]

On second cycle. Started passing blood in urine today. Doctor said looks like a urinary tract infection. Rather scary. I told him about the m1t, he said "what's that?"

I do not think it's related to the M1T

[WISHMASTER]

WOW! this is a great thread, just what I was looking for. I am getting ready to start my second cycle next Friday. My first cycle was S1+ and although I gained 15 pounds I was only able to keep 7 of it. I am 5'8 and 39 young years old. WHen I started the S1 I was at 155 dry in the morning and got up to 170 dry in the morning but now Im down to 162. I am finishing my PCT with just Nolvadex. So now Im going to do a cycle of M1T and am going to follow the SAMPLE cycle on the first post to a T!

I am going to do 10mgs a day out of the UL bottle so thats 2 pills a day. No where have I read when is a good time to take the pills? I do my workouts at 5pm if that helps.


thanks guys for the informative thread!

Everything is purchased just waiting till next week to start.

[userabuser]

Welcome wishmaster!

I take them 12 hours apart.

BTW, I'm 43 (as of a coupla days ago) Currently 161.5 lbs.

Also, did you take clomid during pct?

My second cycle seems to have much less affect so far than my first. (I'm a about 10 days into it)

[WISHMASTER]

I did not take anything except Nolvadex for PCT. Maybe thats why I have lost 8 pounds. Ive also been taking milk thistle during post to get my liver ready for anything during this next cycle. I have read that its not good to take a pill right before working out, true? So if I get up at 6:30am take 1 pill and take the other after my workout?

[Soldier of Misfortune]

Take the second one later in the day. Im going to take half my stuff for the day after my morning shower and the other half after my nite shower. The 4derm is absorbed better through softer skin and your pores are open.

[Joe King]

how long should M1T be taken for at a time, 2 weeks, 3 weeks or 4 weeks?
and should milk thistle be taken at the same time or post cycle, and for how long?

[statuZ]

how long should M1T be taken for at a time, 2 weeks, 3 weeks or 4 weeks?
and should milk thistle be taken at the same time or post cycle, and for how long?

did you even read the first post?

[Joe King]

great answer.

[unclemoney]

I've known this thread has been around a while and I just noticed.... holy crap look at how many times this thread has been viewed compared to how many times the sticky's have been viewed.... I def cast 4 gazillion votes saying this should be a sticky. Too bad nsa wasnt around for my 1st m1t cycle but luckily he had this posted and from this thread and other peoples advice I had a good 2nd cycle on this stuff. Currently gona try something else and am going with m-1,4ad//s1+.

[nsa]

I've known this thread has been around a while and I just noticed.... holy crap look at how many times this thread has been viewed compared to how many times the sticky's have been viewed.... I def cast 4 gazillion votes saying this should be a sticky. Too bad nsa wasnt around for my 1st m1t cycle but luckily he had this posted and from this thread and other peoples advice I had a good 2nd cycle on this stuff. Currently gona try something else and am going with m-1,4ad//s1+.

That is what im going to do next, 120mg m-1,4-add and double dose s1+. M1t loses effectiveness after each cycle, so im to the point where i don't think it will work much for me unless i up the dose which i don't want to do.

[WISHMASTER]

I have a few questions, Im going to start my cycle on Friday.
1) does the Trib really help keep the nads thier normal size? Also, should I take it starting on day 1 and all the way thru out PCT also? Will any kind of trib work or do I need a certain brand.
2) its says to take the Hawthorn Berry Week 1-4.....do I start on the 1st day with the recommended dose?
3) If I start my cycle on Friday but dont go to the gym till Monday will that be OK? kinda like loading up on it. Reason I want to start on a weekend is to see if I start to feel funny from the M1T. I didnt when I did my S1 cycle.
4) should I start the 4-ad the same morning I start the M1T? or wait a few days or even a week?

Ive got all the stuff except for the TRIB. Im doing this cycle with 2 other guys and they dont think they need anything else other than the M1T...I tried to tell them but they dont listen. I guess we'll see.


sorry for all the questions!

[wired-up]

did you even read the first post?

awesome!

[nsa]

All of those questions are covered in my initial post.

[WISHMASTER]

no they are not!.....and yes I did read the post. My questions go into a little more detail than what your first post talks about.

[wired-up]

no they are not!.....and yes I did read the post.

bro, you need to chill and show some respect on here or you're gonna get flamed to high heaven.