Double Checking Cycle

[Charger527]

Just about to start a cycle its only basic but just want to make sure i dont miss anything.
Diet feels good with 250g protein 350g carbs 75g fat bout 14500 kj day
Cycle goal: Strength plus bulk.

week 1-2 1000mg test e two at 500mg
week 3-12 500mg test e two at 250mg
wait two weeks then pct
week 1-2 50mg clomid ed 20mg of nolva ed
week 3-4 25mg clomid ed 20 mg nolva ed

im just not 100% if my PCT doeses are right any advice would be great.

Cheers.

[DS21]

Everything looks good, I personally like to add an ai during, or atleast keep one on hand, and I like to use one for PCT.

[blake.varhaug]

your test dosage is high for the beginning. I would suggest keeping it at 500mg of test e a week at 250mgx2 a week for the whole 12 weeks. what are your stats? cycle experience?

[daem]

Why frontload for more than 1 week? You should be fine hitting that 1g up front and then immediately transitioning into 500mg.

I'm also a fan of tapering Nolvadex down from 100mg in this type of a scheme and keeping the clomid dosages constant.

Days 1-7 - 100mg
Days 8-14 - 50mg
Days 15-21 - 20mg

If you do this, you could eliminate the need for an AI in PCT like DS21 suggested...I agree with him that keeping one on hand DURING cycle is important as well.

Good luck!

[Charger527]

Why frontload for more than 1 week? You should be fine hitting that 1g up front and then immediately transitioning into 500mg.

I'm also a fan of tapering Nolvadex down from 100mg in this type of a scheme and keeping the clomid dosages constant.

Days 1-7 - 100mg
Days 8-14 - 50mg
Days 15-21 - 20mg

If you do this, you could eliminate the need for an AI in PCT like DS21 suggested...I agree with him that keeping one on hand DURING cycle is important as well.

Good luck!

Ok cool so only frontload for a week then straight into 500mg. So i should run the clomid at 50 mg for 4 weeks and run the nolva as above for three? or countine the four?

Cheers

[DS21]

Ok cool so only frontload for a week then straight into 500mg. So i should run the clomid at 50 mg for 4 weeks and run the nolva as above for three? or countine the four?

Cheers

I would just front load for the first week, but I would add an ai during or at least have on on hand but definetly add one for pct. I don't know how daem usually dose his pct, but I believe in an ai and a serm for pct, aromasin and nolva would work great.

[LATS60]

IMO, front load the 1st wk too.
I'm not convinced about running nolva at such a high dose for a week, it's a moderate dose medium length cycle.
My choice for an adequate PCT for this cycle would be
Clomid 100/50/50/50.
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Hcg if your nuts shrivel up too much could be used for the last 2wks @ 500iu twice wk.

[DS21]

IMO, front load the 1st wk too.
I'm not convinced about running nolva at such a high dose for a week, it's a moderate dose medium length cycle.
My choice for an adequate PCT for this cycle would be
Clomid 100/50/50/50.
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Hcg if your nuts shrivel up too much could be used for the last 2wks @ 500iu twice wk.

That seems to be the standard pct that most offer here, why is that?

Correct me if I am wrong, but serms like nolva and clomid stop estrogen from binding to various receptors in the body, prevent gyno, but ai's lower the estrogen that is being produced in the body. The way I look at it is if there isn't a large amount of estrogen aromatizing in the body (due to an ai) there is already less of a change of getting gyno, so adding a serm would just help ensure you don't get gyno. I've always thought an ai is more important then a serm in pct, at least that is my opinion, but please help me see it a different way if you feel I am wrong.

[Charger527]

How i understand it is if you use a ai it reduces your gains. because you need estrogen to build muscle.

I will have Letro on hand but was only going to use it should gyno start, is it really needed in PCT?

[DS21]

Letro isn't something I would use on a test only cycle, but I would use or keep on hand arimadex, if you use a small amout it won't hurt your gains.

[Charger527]

So
Clomid 100/50/50/50.
Nolva 40/20/20/20
with letro on hand is enough?. ill try get arimdex aswell though.

Cheers,

[odix]

for my PCT I ran HCG, with nolva and aromasin. SERM+AI. worked wonders. just my .02, although the HCG should be disregarded cause I didnt use it suff/efficiently

[Charger527]

Is HCG recommended for PCT? its quite hard to find.