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Do you beLIEve?
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This is so getting locked.
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why? not allowed to talk about god?Originally Posted by ErnstHatAngst
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It's an incendiary topic. All my gay marriage threads ended up with padlocks on 'em. Don't see why this would be different. Still, I'm curious what people think.
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You talking about...
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Of course they exist it's in what we trust.
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YES-i believe there is a god....I also believe...contrary to popular belief...science and religion are one...
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This is my belief as well.
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Agreed. I believe the following...
- there is only one God
- all major religions come from God
- the world is one country and mankind are its citizens
- men and women are equal
- all prejudices must be overcome
- science and religion are in harmony
- economic problems are linked to our spiritual problems
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WRONG!
Religion = faith based (Information Never can be changed)
Science = Empirical inquisition (Information Changes all the time based on new evidence)
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Unless you`re a part of the puritan clergy around the 1600`s, then you can just make stuff up based on interpretation.
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Not IMO
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Define "god."
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I think there is a God.
Although you know it is kinda discouraging when you think about it...
I live life the way i want, i dont really live by the beliefs of others. Those people are sheeps.
Especially the ones who believe the world was created in 7 days and is only 5000 years old.
I mean honestly, science doesnt lie.
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i think that is more of a metaphore....which leads to faith...its all your interpretation...
I agree that science doesn't lie...but science isn't everyone's language....as relegion isn't everyones language either...though they both offer explanation to the universe and our existance....just depends how you want to view it....or simply how it makes sense to you...
Last edited by rhino1; 11-21-2008 at 01:33 AM.
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i believe in god but not religion
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This also is my belief. I believe in Jesus and God.
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Thats a good answer...........Truth is I dont have a fvckin clue if there is a "god," but I have to figure something started all of this, even if you believe more in the science side of it and big bang theory, those first molecules had to come from somewhere. Something had to set all of it in motion. Who knows? This question and the is their a "heaven" question are probably the two must subjective questions possible. It always makes for very interesting conversations, as long as everyone realizes that all that can truly be offered in reply are opinions and speculations.
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i agree.there are to many complex things in life that point to a higher power.but with so many religions,somebodys got to be wrong.i feel that all religions are basicly philosophy. thay all have teachings and stories that help peeps live by the golden rule and such.i am catholic so most stories that i was taught are very hard to believe.yet when i whitnesse the birth of my child or how a friend of mine was cured of cancer whith no scientific resoning.it leads me to believe that there is someone or something of a higher power that is watching over us.at least i hope so cus it gives me some sort of comfort in believing.
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depends how im feeling, if i belive or not.
After bench i feel like a god....
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I think my avatar would make my answer pretty predictable but I'm gonna say absolutely not.
But if there is he's a sick, twisted, uncaring SOB.
I RESPECT a person's right to believe anything they wish, I just can't always understand what they're thinking.
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so do you believe in the devil...im guessing you do with the upside down cross.....if that is so then you have to believe in god....no god...no devil
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Actually not at all.
The upside down cross is more an "anti-symbol" than anything. It's saying f*ck this cross and what it represents.
Satanism itself also has nothing to do with the devil. Look it up on wikepedia for a quick rundown of what it's about.
I think believing in the devil is even sillier than believing in God.
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isn't believing in satanism....believing in satan?
thats tripped out....there is also this mexican guy that calls himself jesus but wears 666 and convinces all of his followers to give up all their cash to him and they do...he also preaches to them to satisfy their earthly earges...just dont kill people...twisted...
Last edited by rhino1; 11-21-2008 at 02:00 AM.
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Not at all actually.
It's using "Satan" as a symbol, the anti-Christ, therefore the anti-Christian.
Satanism is all about man, how he is just another animal with urges and desires, and how we should seek to fulfill those desires rather than shun them and feel ashamed of our natural instincts like Christianity teaches.
It's very centered around power and feeling powerful, which makes me think more people on here would be down with a good 80% of what Satanism is about than they would ever think.
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That's one perspective...I'm intrigued to know how you account for the existence of this world, the phenomena that occur, the human body and how it was designed so perfectly...do you believe all these things just HAPPEN? Don't they need someone or something to create and control them?
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Truth is I don't know.
But if I had to give an answer I'd say... atoms and molecules and stuff. Energy and matter coming together and figuring out what works. E v o l u t i o n. You know, all that silly science stuff.
Not some magic man that lives in the sky.
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The big bang, darwins therory,
but i like to think something else gave it a bit of a push as well though.
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Good point, I believe in inteligent design. There is way too much evidence to not believe there is a god. If you step back and look at things there is an amazing order and sequence to everything. Believing it just happened is just ludicrus in my opinion. Also wheres any evidence for E vo lution? I would think that after several million years we would have found a missing link by now, or something that died in stages of evolving.
In my line of work I look at evidence. Evidence is used to prove or disprove things all the time.
This video sums up what I'm trying to say:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGy7jRi2-uY
This is two minutes long and very intersting
Last edited by DeputyLoneWolf; 11-21-2008 at 12:19 PM.
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I believe. God has kept me from destroying myself in so many ways.
Although it's hard to make a case for something that no one has ever seen in real life, we all know he's there. And he looks out for all of us.
I'm sure that all of us has said "thank you god" at one point or another.
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When I encounter something I don't understand I don't think "Well I don't have an explanation, therefore a magic man in the sky must have done it!" Nor do I think anyone is watching me, controlling me, looking out for me, or going to judge me.
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I believe there's a higher entity. But the concept of god is abused and twisted by alot of religions.
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its really what you make of it...
scientists cant understand relegion because they are analytically based.....as religious people cant understand science as well because they are faith based
Isn't it ironic that most wars are fought over religion
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My father is an Anglican priest and also has a teaching degree and taught science.....
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most...not all....as i said...i believe science and relegion are one...some people speak 2 languages
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PS - I mean no disrespect to anyone who believes in any God.
Let's keep this thread nice so we can keep it open... this is interesting stuff.
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[edit] Satanism and heavy metal music
Heavy metal music has often been connected with Satanism, in part to the lyrical content of several bands and their frequent use of imagery often tied to left hand path beliefs (such as the upside-down pentagram). As a result, members of several bands, including Slayer and Black Sabbath, have faced accusations of being true Satanists. More often than not, such musicians say they do not believe in legitimate Satanic ideology and often profess to being atheists or, in some instances, followers of right hand path religions, while using that which appears to be "Satanic" for entertainment purposes and shock value.[10]
However, while some debate their authenticity, other artists have professed Satanic beliefs. Glen Benton, vocalist and bassist of the band Deicide, once openly claimed to be a practitioner of Theistic Satanism, and has spoken publicly on numerous occasions[11] to profess staunch anti-Christian sentiment. Norwegian black metal artists, such as those from bands Gorgoroth and Mayhem, have also defended modern Satanic ideology.[12] Numerous burnings of churches that covered parts of Norway in the early 1990s were also attributed to youths involved in the black metal movement, who claimed to have theistic Satanic beliefs and strong "anti-LaVeyan" attitudes.[13] However, the legitimacy of such actions as Satanic endeavors, rather than simply rebellious actions done for publicity, is something that has been doubted by even those who contribute to the genre.[14]
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this is funny....i love and believe in god but if also love death metal and my self proclaimed moto is 'go fvck yourself' i also have fvck off tattoo'd on my right forearm....and that is exactly how I feel to this day....FVCK OFF
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i have to admit...i am deeply tempted and do engage in things that are ungodly....i used to have a huge coke problem...only quit because i have kids...if i were more attractive and many women hit on me i would likly endulge them...
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so wolf.....if it made you feel good you would kill people?
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No.
And if we're talking about murder, I think Christianity's got WAAAAAAYYYYYY more to answer for than Satanism.
I should probably clarify at this point too that I don't consider myself a Satanist.
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more blood has been shed in the name of christ(or god) than for any otherr reason...
didn't mean to call you satanist...my bad
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