clenbuterol or albuterol

[GPS226]

which is better? what are the differences?

[richtries]

am interested to know this aswell . . . seems you can only get albuterol from ar-r.com? Has anyone used this product?

[GPS226]

am interested to know this aswell . . . seems you can only get albuterol from ar-r.com? Has anyone used this product?

yeah, ar-r hardly has anything these days..they don't even have nolva..

[Immortal Soldier]

Albuterol is the short acting ester of Clen

[GPS226]

Albuterol is the short acting ester of Clen

thanks..any recommendation on which is better if i'm running it during PCT for mild cutting and anti-catabolism? PS. ar-r does have nolva, sorry for that vicious, slanderous lie..but they also don't have insulin pins, which i need for HCG..

[Immortal Soldier]

thanks..any recommendation on which is better if i'm running it during PCT for mild cutting and anti-catabolism? PS. ar-r does have nolva, sorry for that vicious, slanderous lie..but they also don't have insulin pins, which i need for HCG..

Clen is the more popular choice, don't know any UGL's that make albuterol tabs. The difference between them wouldn't be noticeable enough to make a big difference IMO. I could be wrong though...

[♠AceOfSpades♠]

yeah, ar-r hardly has anything these days..they don't even have nolva..

been wondering the same thing man. Where did the T3 go? geez now i have to go find a new cheap source.

[intensityfreak]

im gonna be running some albuterol form ar-r. i loved their clen.. they say albuterol is better for energy and endurance and has the same fat burning properties as clen. suppose to be safer for athletes with a strinuos running program.. so im fina give it a try

[HOLLYWOOD.JACK]

" The main difference between Albuterol and Clen is that Albuterol has a significantly shorter half life of Albuterol. If Clenbuterol happens to give you insomnia, then Albuterol is a much better alternative, because it’s not going to build up in your system to the same degree that Clen can.

I’m typically much more confident recommending Albuterol to athletes instead of Clen, because stimulant induced anxiety and insomnia seem to be much less likely. Also, due to the shorter half life, there’s probably a much lower level of beta-2 receptor downgrade, but the trade off is more frequent dosing. Two to four milligrams, three to four times a day is usually sufficient for an anabolic as well as fat burning effect. "

Taken from a profile on another site, google has alot of results on it though

[T-MOS]

" The main difference between Albuterol and Clen is that Albuterol has a significantly shorter half life of Albuterol. If Clenbuterol happens to give you insomnia, then Albuterol is a much better alternative, because it’s not going to build up in your system to the same degree that Clen can.

I’m typically much more confident recommending Albuterol to athletes instead of Clen, because stimulant induced anxiety and insomnia seem to be much less likely. Also, due to the shorter half life, there’s probably a much lower level of beta-2 receptor downgrade, but the trade off is more frequent dosing. Two to four milligrams, three to four times a day is usually sufficient for an anabolic as well as fat burning effect. "

Taken from a profile on another site, google has alot of results on it though

Holly want a cracker???......Speak Parrot , Speak

[HOLLYWOOD.JACK]

YOU are a troll mate Admin has talked to me via PM .. he would've banned me if I was a scammer
First you say I'm 17 .. then 19 .. now 18? I told you I'm 20 ..

IM - I said I was 24 to get the right advice for my cycle, when I'm 20
T-MOS has no life and just follows my post like the little whiny little bitch he is - just a lonely little fool with no friends I'd imagine

[Immortal Soldier]

YOU are a troll mate Admin has talked to me via PM .. he would've banned me if I was a scammer
First you say I'm 17 .. then 19 .. now 18? I told you I'm 20 ..

IM - I said I was 24 to get the right advice for my cycle, when I'm 20
T-MOS has no life and just follows my post like the little whiny little bitch he is - just a lonely little fool with no friends I'd imagine

I don't want no drama, whatever beef you guys got going thats fine.

I am going to stay out of this

[*RAGE*]

YOU are a troll mate Admin has talked to me via PM .. he would've banned me if I was a scammer
First you say I'm 17 .. then 19 .. now 18? I told you I'm 20 ..

IM - I said I was 24 to get the right advice for my cycle, when I'm 20
T-MOS has no life and just follows my post like the little whiny little bitch he is - just a lonely little fool with no friends I'd imagine

17 or 20 it does not matter bro your bf% and your age have something in common, you talk a lot of shit to several members and have not been baned yet..Your time is coming POS.....you are a liar and should not give advice to anyone....

[HOLLYWOOD.JACK]

So which advice did I give that was so bad to have you hung up on it for so long?
and yes prone, you are very tough.

[*RAGE*]

So which advice did I give that was so bad to have you hung up on it for so long?
and yes prone, you are very tough.

Yes, I am, nice of you to notice

[HOLLYWOOD.JACK]

Yes, I am, nice of you to notice

Good work on ignoring my question

[*RAGE*]

Good work on ignoring my question

This is easy....everyone is asking for stats and you pop on and give bullshit advice without knowing how old someone is or there stats...cut and paste and so on bro pick one here

http://forums.steroid.com/search.php?searchid=5636129

this is all your post....

[Paulilii]

Hi
I am 24 years old .
I loking to find my first cycle ?
Can anybody help my.

[*RAGE*]

Hi
I am 24 years old .
I loking to find my first cycle ?
Can anybody help my.

Start your own thread bro....go to the top and click thread and give all your stats height,weight,BF%,past cycles, training experience, your planned cycle and PCT...hope this helps..

[Hunter]

One post in which you told a member his gear was fake based on the spelling. Another member I believe it was fireguy corrected you saying there are many different ways in which enanthate is spelled. Your a parrot with lack of dedication which is why your a bf is high and you feel the need to jump on a cycle instead of putting in the time and dedication other members have. I came here looking to jump on cycle and got flamed? why I deserved it for being so dumb. I then got my diet in order and workout routine and still have not cycled. Dedication bro you lack it and thats why you will always be average.

[HOLLYWOOD.JACK]

" Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms. "

Be specific. Quote my exact 'bullshit' posts that have false information.
And theres nothing wrong with cutting and pasting compound profiles - I DID link the page but a mod/admin removed it so ..

[HOLLYWOOD.JACK]

I wasn't going to respond, but I suppose I will. First, your retort seems somewhat forced. If I restated every complaint given by mn_fighter with the words spelled correctly, then you would agree with them? Hmm... I am not trying to be mean, but why don't you just pull back a little and read for awhile. I've always enjoyed fire in young people and if properly focused it can really help you in life. But, incorrectly applied, that same fire can become a problem for you and everyone around you. (You do realize who you are attacking, don't you?) Why not wait a bit, slow down a bit, get a little humility and really become an important member of a site that you know has plenty of great information or you wouldn't be here in the first place?
Cheers, T

I haven't given any false information in the first place.

One post in which you told a member his gear was fake based on the spelling. Another member I believe it was fireguy corrected you saying there are many different ways in which enanthate. Your a parrot with lack of dedication which is why your a fatty.

He said its spelt 2 ways, not MANY WAYS - and I agreed, child.
Never said I was an expert but I do research, we all have something new to learn

[*RAGE*]

" Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms. "

Be specific. Quote my exact 'bullshit' posts that have false information.
And theres nothing wrong with cutting and pasting compound profiles - I DID link the page but a mod/admin removed it so ..

this is not the place to do this I will start a thread in the lounge and we can have it out there.....

sorry OP thread is yours...

[HOLLYWOOD.JACK]

this is not the place to do this I will start a thread in the lounge and we can have it out there.....

sorry OP thread is yours...

[Immortal Soldier]

Internet.....serious business

[T-MOS]

sorry to hijack , but...... is this enough proof for you Hollywood Jack???

Lets see what I can dig up with this a$$'s genius advice

When the OP asked which was preferred, this was Whack Jack's reply

Clenbuterol + DNP

Because Ephedrine is impossible to get ahold of down under.

and when a member asked how he can tell if his clen was working, Whack Jack's reply was:

Trust your supplier.

and when someone wanted 2nd cylce advice, before he ever even got the stats of the individual, Whack Jack's immense years of cycle experience have NEVER ran a cycle yet, PARROTs this:

As above, what are your stats?

You could always just do 500mg per week again but add an oral like Dianabol too up to weeks 4-6

and this was what he claims he has done after stating in his very first LIE post that his only cycle experience was THEORY ONLY except for clen and DNP, now he is a VAR expert

Personal Statistics:
Age: 24 LIE
Weight: ~98KG
Height: 180CM
Training: 3 years
Bodyfat: ~10% LIE
Cycle Experience: All theory - other than DNP/Clenbuterol but they arent steroids

Cycle Overview:
Weeks 1-12: Test Cyp @ 200mg/ml
Mon/Tue/Fri = 1ml (3ml per week) = 600mg Test Cyp/week
Weeks 1-5: Dianabol @ 30-40mg ED

PCT Overview:
Weeks 14-18: Nolvadex @ 40/40/20/20
Weeks 14-18: Clomid @ 50/50/50/50

On hand:
Arimidex + Letrozole incase of any unwanted side effects


So do I have everything covered?

Agreed, I tried 40mg-50mg ED and felt it within day 2 (muscle hardening etc)

and here is his PARROT advice he wants to give KNOWING HIS OWN BODYFAT WAS AT LEAST 20%- but still lied to get cycle advice so he could cycle with HIGH bodyfat

I'd go the other way, cut as much as you can then do a nice clean bulk.
Plus less estrogen involved that way, from what I've learnt the higher your BF% is the more of a chance you have of getting Gyno etc

and here is his advice to another 20 year old who was 5'10 and 170lbs wanting to run two orals...Now Whack Jack has SO MUCH cycle experience but never had the opportunity to run both these together but thinks its a GREAT idea

I'm gonna ignore the obvious, if you're gonna cycle then you're gonna cycle so here goes:

Anavar works great. I've always wanted to know what it'd be like to run them both together but never been in a position to just run 2 orals at once so I'd definitely be curious to see how it went .. I'd run by these:

- 40-50mg of Anavar ED
- 40-50mg of Winstrol ED
- Liver protectant/multivitamin
- Doctor visits/blood checks
- Train hard
- Get your diet to a T

Perfect it all and I'm sure you wont regret it
just remember, health over gains. If you run 2 orals get your bloods checked

and when a sprinter wanted cycle advice, Whack Jack had this wonderful advice with his extensive experience

I have a couple of friends that are sprinters and use, gear of choice is Turinabol and Winstrol (Separately, they havent stacked them together before)

and after being 24 and only 10% bodyfat, he comes back last month and states these stats to get more advice

Age: 22 got two years younger in a month
Height: 5'10"
Weight: ~99KG
BF%: ~18% got awfully fat in a month
Cycle: 0 injectables
Trained: 2-3 years on/off

Goal: 80KG
BF%: Ripped LIAR

Weeks 1-10: Test C 200mg EW
Weeks 1-10: Stanozolol 50-100mg ED

PCT: Nolvadex 40/40/20/20

Other: Clenbuterol

I know I could probably do this without gear but its on hand and I want to use it. Any opinions on the cycle above?

and when someone asks about legit pills in the pics forum, our Whack Jack who has SO much experience with spotting fakes, says:

Stanozolol (Winstrol) 5mg - Good to go!

Even though he has NEVER used any before.....now thats credibility Jack !!!

and this is his EXTENSIVE experienced advice to give to someone that may have Gyno

Letrozole .. if that doesnt work you need surgery.

and here again is some GREAT advice for a 22 year old that doesn't want to inject!! Must be from his YEARS of doing ORAL ONLY cylces !!!

There are a few oral only cycles on here (D-Bol mainly I think) with great results
If anyone says Dianabol is useless by itself its BS IMO, it wasnt 'invented' to stack so therefore isnt pointless

Though you'll get much better results when combined with an injectable, orals work
But yeah best to read up on other peoples experiences too.

More great experience in helping identify real or fake orals... The sad thing is some unknowing newbie is gonna think this Whack Jack actually has experience identifying because he bothered to answer the post and someone could be taking CRAP but what does Whack Jack Care....

Look real, should be good to go

Now here Whack Jack comes in on page two after a lengthy discussion about fat loss for an overweight guy 25% bodyfat that was being stubborn and even NARK came in with a very lengthy explanation of Fish Oils for fat loss and Whack Jack wants to put this guy on DNP......

In my opinion:

Week 1+2: Clenbuterol (Adjust dosage to your liking)
Week 3+4: ECA Stack (25-30mg Ephedrine/200mg Caffeine/Aspirin)
(Cycle these)

Could even add DNP in though its not for everyone, I am a fan and use it responsibly.
Keep in mind these are all dangerous substances and should be researched and used with alot of care.

and here is a thread Whack Jack started to ask about doses AFTER he has been running around the board GIVING Dose advice

Thought I'd make a thread based on Stanozolol/Anavar dosages Can anyone shed some light on whats recommended or worth it?

Some say 50mg ED is sufficient, but then some say that no less than 80mg etc I was thinking of running them both on cycle (First Anavar then Stanozolol) ..

I'm tossing up on whether or not to stick to 50-60mg ED of either or shell out and go 100mg ED, opinions? (My cutting cycle will be 10 weeks so I'm splitting them up) Thanks!

and here he is quoting sides of Dbol when he has NEVER taken it

Should have an increase in hunger too

and here is his advice to a 21 year old with 24% bodyfat suggest that he go ahead with his ORAL only cylce which includes Winny with 24% bodyfat....does he try to explain any of the downside of even attempting this HELL NO, he is Whack Jack, lets be cool and just give the kid a cycle

I know your gonna do it either way, so theres no point in anyone saying dont do it I'd go for something like this if you arent going to add Testosterone (I'd recommend you do)

Weeks 1-4: Up to 100mg ANAVAR ED (No less than 40mg)
Weeks 5-8: Up to 100mg STANOZOLOL ED (No less than 40mg)
Clenbuterol - Cycled every 2 weeks is good
Tren - I cant comment on

I'm doing a similar cut, but mine will be:

Weeks 1-10: Testosterone CYP 400mg/week
Weeks 1: 50mg ANAVAR ED (Weeks 2-5: 100mg ANAVAR ED)
Weeks 6: 50mg STANOZOLOL ED (Weeks 7-10: 100mg STANOZOLOL ED)
Weeks 1-10: T3 @ 50mg-100mg ED
Weeks 1-10: Clenbuterol Cycled

and yet more extensive years of wisdom on injecting sites seeing as how he NEVER injected yet, or has just started to inject

what about calves?

I like pinning quads, dont feel a thing ...till the next morning

and here is some bullshvt PWO diet advice.....when asked how long to wait to eat after workout.....yea who needs PWO carbs anyway right Whack Jack??

[QUOTE=HOLLYWOOD.JACK;4523188]It wouldnt matter, eat when your hungry

Calories are calories, carbs are carbs, protein is protein and fat is fat regardless of the form.
Just count your PWO shake as a meal, but if its small then add a whole food meal shortly after etc[/QUOTE

and for someone who preloaded several MONTHS worth of syringes and now is not sure they are still safe to use, this is Whack Jack's amazing insight to the sterility and safety of injecting these

Look closely at each syringe
- Is there anything floating in the solution?
- Is there anything 'out of place'?
- Is there anything that makes it look unusable?

and Identical BUBBLES means your gear is safe to inject !! OK !!!!!!

Flick the syringe with your finger, bubbles should float to the top.
If its identical to the oil in your remaining vial then you should be fine.

... and dont do it again, lol ..

Gee, I feel safe injecting them NOW Whack Jack



OK i am tired, and I think this proves enough that Whack Jack give Whack advice and Parrots just to try to fit in and gain credibility

Go away Parrot, no more crackers for you !!!!!

[Immortal Soldier]

[jbm]

[Immortal Soldier]

Chicken breast without any type of sauce (ketchup, bbq, etc.) sucks massive balls, just had to fork one down.

Going to bed now

Intresting thread T-mos

[tantan350]

OK, back ON TOPIC...

I thought the difference between Clenbuterol and Albuterol is that Clen was not "legal" by the FDA, but OK in Europe...or something like Clen is for horses?? I'm not 100%

But my question is my toddler daughter had a BronchiLitis this past winter. The doctor prescribed a Nebulizer (looks and sounds like an electric air pump) with a box of Albuterol. Luckily she cleared up after only 3-4 uses of it. I probably have 15-20 more packs of liquid Albuterol laying around. Can I use this and how for weight loss?? I did a cycle of Clen last year from AR-R and it was good. Got the jitters from 100mcg, lost the desired weight, all the good stuff. I didn't feel any jitters when I tried the Albuterol once

Peace all...

[tyward]

I'm sorry that I can't respond to your post because I don't know the answer. LOL Although I feel that I must say how awed I am with T-MOS and his reasoned and detailed post showing the inaccuracies in the posts by Hollywood Jack. I think that either a response or a non-response from the young man will actually teach me more about social interaction on the internet than anything that I have learned to this point. I mean really, what more can be said? T