equipoise solo

[randym2690]

okay so i decided to run equipoise itll be homebrew so ill have 200mg/50ml i can eaither run it at 600 for 16 weeks or mabye a lighter cycle i was wondering if i run it at 600mg a week i know that equipoise has a realitivly long half live could i inject 3ml at once say on mondays for the cycle? i cant find to much info because theres only one company who makes a 200mg/ml that i found and there werent tomuch info on inject info

[Phate]

okay so i decided to run equipoise itll be homebrew so ill have 200mg/50ml i can eaither run it at 600 for 16 weeks or mabye a lighter cycle i was wondering if i run it at 600mg a week i know that equipoise has a realitivly long half live could i inject 3ml at once say on mondays for the cycle? i cant find to much info because theres only one company who makes a 200mg/ml that i found and there werent tomuch info on inject info

why would you want to run eq solo?

[randym2690]

i wanna gain a few lean poounds and its a a pretty good cut with not that many sides and the fact eq is kinda mild it appeals to me and i had a buddy who gets powders so its available and at a good price

[Phate]

i wanna gain a few lean poounds and its a a pretty good cut with not that many sides and the fact eq is kinda mild it appeals to me and i had a buddy who gets powders so its available and at a good price

so you want to take a really mild AS that suppresses your endogenous test, but without test?

yeah, i'm not feeling this at all

stats?
age
weight
height
bf%
training exp
cycle exp
pct?
diet?

[LexusIS09]

so you want to take a really mild AS that suppresses your endogenous test, but without test??

You obviously shouldn't be handing out AAS advice.

You don't have a clue what you're talking about.

EQ can DEFINITELY be run solo.

... I'm surprised a "vet" would post such a narrow-minded comment. You're obviously just parroting the rule of thumb "test should be a base of all cycles".. which is invalid in this question.

[Phate]

You obviously shouldn't be handing out AAS advice.

You don't have a clue what you're talking about.

EQ can DEFINITELY be run solo.

... I'm surprised a "vet" would much such a narrow-minded comment.

i never said it couldn't, i just said that i wasn't feeling it(which means that i don't think it will live up to his expectation if he runs it solo)

but if you like feel free to tell me how running it solo will produce better gains then say, running it with test

[LexusIS09]

but if you like feel free to tell me how running it solo will produce better gains then say, running it with test

many people don't like test. aka even 200mg - 300mg EW will produce such undesirable sides that they avoid it. (i.e. extreme acne; insomnia; etc)

I never said it would be a better cycle bro. I'm merely answering his question. He obviously knows a stack with test would be better. But he wants to run EQ solo.. so keep the answers simple, and just get to the point.

[Booz]

Equipoise is a weak Compound mate............
I doubt that you will see much off this used on its own at 600mg weekly,

[randym2690]

stats?
age 21
weight 214
height 5'7
bf% 15%
training exp 4 years, in npti personal training school right now
cycle exp few prohormone cycles superdrol phera hdrol havoc
pct? nolva 50 first few days 40/40/20/20
diet?maint 3650 slow cut right now about 3200 a day 270gs protien 75 fat and 320g carbs
and i have herd good things from people who have ran eq solo they said they liked it easy kept gains an nothing big mabye like 8-10 pounds learn and ill most likly be cutting on eq

[Phate]

stats?
age 21
weight 214
height 5'7
bf% 15%
training exp 4 years, in npti personal training school right now
cycle exp few prohormone cycles superdrol phera hdrol havoc
pct? nolva 50 first few days 40/40/20/20
diet?maint 3650 slow cut right now about 3200 a day 270gs protien 75 fat and 320g carbs
and i have herd good things from people who have ran eq solo they said they liked it easy kept gains an nothing big mabye like 8-10 pounds learn and ill most likly be cutting on eq

nice stats, can i see a pic

[LexusIS09]

stats?
age 21
weight 214
height 5'7
bf% 15%

Good stats bro; Definitely run the cycle for 16 weeks. I'd run it from 600 - 800mg each week.

A common stack when not using test is...

EQ / T-bol

or

EQ / Anavar

both are good choices. Other then that have fun. You should get some good hunger / vascularity at that dosage. And yes, maybe even add 5 + pounds if diet is good.

[T-MOS]

Good stats bro; Definitely run the cycle for 16 weeks. I'd run it from 600 - 800mg each week.

A common stack when not using test is...

EQ / T-bol

or

EQ / Anavar

both are good choices. Other then that have fun. You should get some good hunger / vascularity at that dosage. And yes, maybe even add 5 + pounds if diet is good.

REALLY??? Please explain to me how it is GOOD for a 21 year old whose growth plates have not fused yet to be using suppressive compounds???

what is your medical back up for advising this???

[LexusIS09]

REALLY??? Please explain to me how it is GOOD for a 21 year old whose growth plates have not fused yet to be using suppressive compounds???

what is your medical back up for advising this???

Running AAS at age 21 is completely fine. ESPECIALLY, when the OP is considering doing a VERRRY mild compound; that will BARELY suppress natty-test levels.

Have you ever even run EQ bro?

If you're one of those fanatics who believes 25 is an appropriate age... well then i'm not having this debate, because I don't have time to bother! hah.

Anyways, every time I argue with u... you just go and tell Brian on me. so peaceeee out!

[Phate]

Running AAS at age 21 is completely fine. ESPECIALLY, when the OP is considering doing a VERRRY mild compound; that will BARELY suppress natty-test levels.

Have you ever even run EQ bro?

If you're one of those fanatics who believes 25 is an appropriate age... well then i'm not having this debate, because I don't have time to bother! hah.

Anyways, every time I argue with u... you just go and tell Brian on me. so peaceeee out!

running AAS at 21 is completely fine, that's seriously messed up, but i'll keep an open mind here, let's see your evidence

[randym2690]

yeah how do i post on this website? do i need a min post?

[Phate]

yeah how do i post on this website? do i need a min post?

click reply(like your going to post)

then on the bar that has the bold button, look for a picture of a mountain and sun(it's 3 from the right), click on it and then click browse and choose the pic

[LexusIS09]

equipoise has a realitivly long half live could i inject 3ml at once say on mondays for the cycle? i cant find to much info because theres only one company who makes a 200mg/ml that i found and there werent tomuch info on inject info

Injecting 3mL isn't that much fun bro. It's a lot of oil at once.

I'd just shoot monday/thusday

1.5mL each day = 300mg per injection.

[randym2690]

i just posted an album you can look at my page..personally i dont think my stats are anything great been more of a powerlifter wanting to switch to just a better looking body

[Phate]

i just posted an album you can look at my page..personally i dont think my stats are anything great been more of a powerlifter wanting to switch to just a better looking body

the pics aren't bad bro, but you aren't 15%, i'm gonna get fireguy here(he competes and does alot of body comp testing so he's great at estimating bf%) to give you an estimate

[Hunter-S-Thompson]

yea id lean more towards 18/20% BF

[FireGuy]

Already here, much closer to 20% minimum in my opinion.

[randym2690]

thanks for the imput guys lexus have you ran eq solo? and diets pretty good i mean at npti we go over alotta nutrition so the diet jus keeps gettin better and i have acess to great tools for training so im not as concerned with the training diet as i am with the cycle it self

[Phate]

thanks for the imput guys lexus have you ran eq solo? and diets pretty good i mean at npti we go over alotta nutrition so the diet jus keeps gettin better and i have acess to great tools for training so im not as concerned with the training diet as i am with the cycle it self

well in that case post the diet, i would love to see what npti teaches(i'm not being sarcastic, i'm thinking about getting a npti or issa certification)

[randym2690]

idk man i got 3 4point caliper test by my personal training instructor whos like one of the biggest fitness consultants in the united states and they ranged from 15.5 twice to 16
hah as far as the growth plates go man i think there set i havent grew in quite some time

[FireGuy]

You need a 9 point to get any amount of accuracy. Also, skin calipers dont work well once men get over 14-15%.

[randym2690]

well those scales suck ass man and i dont have the time/acess to a bod pod underwater weighing

[FireGuy]

Who said anything about a scale? I commend you for putting a pic up, at least you are putting yourself out there for a critique. You have a pretty good spare tire around the midsection and are devoid of any muscle seperation anywhere. This would not be the case at 15%.

[randym2690]

half cup fitlite yougurt with a scoop of opt whey and a stone ground whole wheat bagle
600cals 2g fat 54g protien 90g carbs
fish filets(flounder) and 2 slices of bread 320 cals 3g fat 40g protien 26 carbs
chicken with whole whea0t pasta 548 cals 9g fat 68 g protien 41g carbs
post workout shake 714 cals 14g fat 49g protien 97g carbs
(honey milk oats onwhey)
steak and brown rice 840cals fat 24g 50g protien 72g carbs

i mean it obv switches up thats one day like i said maintience is 3650 so im 500 under a day then run 10 mins of intervals

[Phate]

half cup fitlite yougurt with a scoop of opt whey and a stone ground whole wheat bagle
600cals 2g fat 54g protien 90g carbs
fish filets(flounder) and 2 slices of bread 320 cals 3g fat 40g protien 26 carbs
chicken with whole whea0t pasta 548 cals 9g fat 68 g protien 41g carbs
post workout shake 714 cals 14g fat 49g protien 97g carbs
(honey milk oats onwhey)
steak and brown rice 840cals fat 24g 50g protien 72g carbs

i mean it obv switches up thats one day like i said maintience is 3650 so im 500 under a day then run 10 mins of intervals

it's not bad, though i don't like your nutrient partitioning, i see no reason why you would need 90g of carbs in a meal, it would work alot better if you ate more meals and cut the carbs down to limit the insulin spikes throughout the day, either way, if you want a critique we'll help you, if not it's not the worst diet i've ever seen but you won't be able to cut down to the proper bf% to start a cycle(which i don't think you should do anyway) with that diet

[Big]

I do not care for EQ solo.

[randym2690]

and spare tire around the mid side yeah ill be the first to say that my lower stomach is a fuuckin pain in the ass but ill tell you im solid all around except the stomach

[FireGuy]

If you mainentance is based off of the LBM figured at 15% BF you are going to be taking in too many calories. I would redo and the formula with at 20% which is going to reduce your LBM by about 10 LBS. Again, not trying to be an ass but I think 20% is generous.

[spooledup]

I like EQ solo

[FireGuy]

I would also switch out the 10 minutes of intervals with some low intensity cardio in the 30-40 minute range.

[randym2690]

honestly man i really consider it but i have a hard time going against the calipers and iv been dropin about a pound a week so i feel like im doing something right..idk much about your past but dosent seem like youve ever been around 20% bf plus its only pictures idk ill go for the 9 caliper test and see what its like

[TRT,MAN]

here comes world war 3!!!!!

[randym2690]

why? we learned in school that 30-40 mins of low intesity cardio is more of a myth high intensity not only builds more cardiovasular benifits but has been shown through studys to change the matabolic rate for up to 48 hours after the carido

[Phate]

why? we learned in school that 30-40 mins of low intesity cardio is more of a myth high intensity not only builds more cardiovasular benifits but has been shown through studys to change the matabolic rate for up to 48 hours after the carido

10 minutes of intervals won't raise metabolism that much, 20-25minutes of HIIT will, and low intensity cardio burns a higher % of fat due to being primarily done in an oxygen saturated environment which allows for more efficient fat burning

granted that intervals will also help you drop bf% but not only performing 10 minutes of them

as far as what you said about fireguy, his avatar picture is him, he competed natural for several years and has done hundreds of body composition tests if not thousands, he knows his stuff bro

[alpmaster]

why? we learned in school that 30-40 mins of low intesity cardio is more of a myth high intensity not only builds more cardiovasular benifits but has been shown through studys to change the matabolic rate for up to 48 hours after the carido

Are you talking about EPOC? No cardio will ever reach an EPOC of 48 hours, only weight lifting can do that. EPOC for cardio is only 20-40 mintues, 1 hour max. And yes, higher intensity will burn more calories, but lower intensity will have a higher rate of fat oxidation rather than glycogen and amino acids.

[randym2690]

welll the only time i take in huge amount of carbs is breakfast and post workout and i take in about 90 in the am to get that inital boost in energy and i dont crash so i dont really have a problem with it to be honest if it was more simple sugars id take you point but whole wheat hits kinda slow on the gi index not to mention the high content of fiber which further lowers that