Insulin Cycle (For those interested)

[gsxracer]

Stats
23 Years old
6'0 feet
183 pounds 13.7% bf
Goal - Bulking
blood sugar level 5.6

3 weeks on/off on insulin is the cycle for 15 weeks. at a 10 UU post-workout/ morning.

Haven't had any help on cycling insulin so I might as well do it and help out all the younguer generation, to maybe have a alternative for AAS use.

will be posting updates every day,


Today was my first shot done, at 5 UU post-workout, bit shaky because it was my first time stabbing myself, and it was less worst then pricking my finger to check my blood sugar level.

post-workout I took a 400 calorie weight gainer, 39g protein / 65g of carbs
this will be my every day post-workout drink might up the intake if I feel that I get hypo.

Also have a chocolate bar + a powerade beside me at all times.

I checked my blood sugar level pre-workout and it was 6.1, also after workout and still 6.1, will re-check at 1 hour mark after my injection.

will check my blood sugar level pre-shots, in the morning and pre-workout at 12:01pm, to check to see if my blood level is fluctuating and if it is being messed up I will stop injecting insulin.

Wish me luck!

[gsxracer]

Also my daily intake in calories is 4.2k, 350g protein , rest in carbs/fat.

Also I am working on perfect form when performing my exercises so I've been droping weight because I'm working on my negative side of exercises quite alot.


Today was shoulders,
Military press 50pounds 3 sets 8 rep
arnold press 20 pounds 2 sets 8 rep
side raises 12 pounds 2 sets of 8 rep
front raises 12 pounds 2 sets of 8 rep

[thenextcutler]

Also my daily intake in calories is 4.2k, 350g protein , rest in carbs/fat.

Also I am working on perfect form when performing my exercises so I've been droping weight because I'm working on my negative side of exercises quite alot.


Today was shoulders,
Military press 50pounds 3 sets 8 rep
arnold press 20 pounds 2 sets 8 rep
side raises 12 pounds 2 sets of 8 rep
front raises 12 pounds 2 sets of 8 rep

I don't care how slow the lifts are, I would never even get a decent warm up with those weights... Why risk any form of extreme supplement like AAS or slin? To take you to your next level? Maybe after slin you can put weight on the bars? Really man, SLIN CAN KILL YOU, post some pictures if I'm wrong but you risking death and you don't even have a base

[gsxracer]

I don't care how slow the lifts are, I would never even get a decent warm up with those weights... Why risk any form of extreme supplement like AAS or slin? To take you to your next level? Maybe after slin you can put weight on the bars? Really man, SLIN CAN KILL YOU, post some pictures if I'm wrong but you risking death and you don't even have a base

If you perform perfect form, you won't be going higher then this, my normal curl is 55 pounds dumbell each arm, and basicly i'm growing bigger by just doing this.

use the perfect form, and curl your arm when you reach top, then put a pressure while you go on the negative part of the exercise, once you reach full extension of your biceps go up again without any burst slowly, and keep going that see if you can do it with 80% of your weight you normal take and do 8 reps.

go try it out buddy and see if you can't get a decent workout,

"speak less arrogant and ask before putting some stupid comment like you said"

*and my base is 185, 13% bodyfat* I can show you a list of all my body parts measured.


*also this morning 5.2 Blood sugar / 183 pounds* <-- happy normaly my weight in morning is below 178.

[thenextcutler]

*and my base is 185, 13% bodyfat* I can show you a list of all my body parts measured.

don't forget to mention that your 6' tall there mr. Coleman... Sorry for ever questioning your god-like body...


...I also like how you assumed Ive never done hypertrophy before.

[nilrac]

I will probably switch to a carb / protein shake, whenever I'm done my weight gainer( probably 20 scoops left) if everything goes well and see if it will keep the fat off.

A little bit worrying that you don't know that a "carb / protein shake" IS a weight gaining shake. And you are taking insulin... holy shit.

Goodluck!

[Someguy123]

If you perform perfect form, you won't be going higher then this, my normal curl is 55 pounds dumbell each arm, and basicly i'm growing bigger by just doing this.

use the perfect form, and curl your arm when you reach top, then put a pressure while you go on the negative part of the exercise, once you reach full extension of your biceps go up again without any burst slowly, and keep going that see if you can do it with 80% of your weight you normal take and do 8 reps.

go try it out buddy and see if you can't get a decent workout,

"speak less arrogant and ask before putting some stupid comment like you said"

*and my base is 185, 13% bodyfat* I can show you a list of all my body parts measured.


*also this morning 5.2 Blood sugar / 183 pounds* <-- happy normaly my weight in morning is below 178.

he might have said what he did, in an arrogant fashion. but he is right regardless. you lack any form of muscle base to begin with. and you must not have much time in the gym, judging by the low weight you are using for your excercises. which is all fine, as everyone has to start somewhere.

but the reason you keep getting flamed, is because you have chosen to experiment with something, you are clearly not ready for. when you havent even put in any effort naturally yet.

people here only want to see others succeed. and you are setting yourself up for failure, so of course people are going to try and talk you out of it, in their own way. when you start messing around with AAS before having a base, you turn yourself into a yo-yo gainer. you gain when you use, then lose it all when you go off. i realize you arent messing with AAS yet, but this is worse. you have decided to skip a step for some reason. /rant

[rcmf5525]

The problem with this thread is that some other idiot will come along and read this shit and die because he read on some forum that some guy was doing an insulin only cycle and didnt have any problems... The OP might get away with it, but the next poor bastard... I guess its Darwinism... OP, u got any kids?

[Kratos]

OP, u got any kids?

He's probably 16, so I doubt it.

[got fina?]

The problem with this thread is that some other idiot will come along and read this shit and die because he read on some forum that some guy was doing an insulin only cycle and didnt have any problems... The OP might get away with it, but the next poor bastard... I guess its Darwinism... OP, u got any kids?

Yup

[gsxracer]

at 1 hour spike, recheck blood sugar level 4.3

Ate a complex carb + some tuna for my meal, feeling pretty good, even thought my blood sugar is a bit on the low side still not on dangerous side.

[gsxracer]

and for those interested in the insulin i'm using its humalog, 15 minute for it to take effect and its peak is at 1 hour, and its out of you're system in 2 hours.

[maxtrin]

interesting thread good luck..

10UU that is what? how much UI? I never heard about this unit sorry.

[oscarjones]

Interesting log -

You mean 10 I.U.?

[wrathchild212]

u are 6" and only 183lbs?? and your shooting insulinn??
man slin shouldnt even be messed with unless your a pro and u knw what ur doing..ther r members here who have been juicing for years and yet never touched insulin..

What are your cycle experience??

[Mooseman33]

insulin scares the shit out of me..

[gsxracer]

yes I meant 10 IU my bad,

and after 3 hours, my blood sugar level droped back to 3.0, don't know if this is just because of not eating for 3 hours, or if its just the insulin still creeping in my system longuer then it should,

either way drank a bottle of powerade, and took another meal and I'm back on track,

and wrathchild, you're 100% right, it shouldn't be shot by an amature such as myself, But I am doing it, so other amature such as myself will know if it can be done, and if its better to use then AAS's and if its pretty easy to control.

[gymnerd]

yes I meant 10 IU my bad,

and after 3 hours, my blood sugar level droped back to 3.0, don't know if this is just because of not eating for 3 hours, or if its just the insulin still creeping in my system longuer then it should,

either way drank a bottle of powerade, and took another meal and I'm back on track,

and wrathchild, you're 100% right, it shouldn't be shot by an amature such as myself, But I am doing it, so other amature such as myself will know if it can be done, and if its better to use then AAS's and if its pretty easy to control.

I hope you did some serious homework insulin can easily kill you if you go hypo. And it is usually used with Test and HGH never heard of anyone run it solo instead of AAS not a good choice IMO but good luck either way.

[elfin1mf]

I think insulin is a very important hormone for building muscle. This is not just my opinion but a fact. I also think that most healthy bodybuilders should be able to use insulin to its maximum ability without injecting themselves with it. Instead they could eat the majority of their carbs (all high glycemic) in 1 or 2 meals meals a day taken in as fast as they possibly can and supplemented soon afterwards with about 100 g of pure protein or breast meat. They could also drink a couple glasses of water after their meal. The reasons I think this is a much better method are countless, but the most important reason is that your body will become insulin resistant way too quickly if you keep poking yourself with it. If you eat your carbs all in one meal eaten as quick as possible you not only produce the most insulin possible rhythmically (as the body would naturally instead of all at once) But you also allow for an entire day to gain back your sensitivity to the slin. If you are on a bulking cycle with AAS which allows you to work out wayyy more and still build muscle, you might want to have at least 3 carb/protein meals a day. I still think it would be beneficial to eat those meals in the style I stated above to maximize insulin production.

Does the speed you eat the meal really matter? ABSOLUTELY. Try eating the meal half as fast as you can and noting the mental effects of the insulin. Then try eating it as fast as possible and note the incredible difference. I have nearly passed out from eating a box and a half of oreos and 75 - 100grams whey isolate in 10 minutes with a glass or 2 of water.

Applying this method of eating, I have been able to take in the same amount of calories as usual and gain weight AT LEAST 5 - 10 times faster than normal. I cannot believe my eyes when I look at the scale. So do not try to tell me that you cannot get your body to naturally produce enough insulin to gain the maximum amount of weight for optimal results.

[gsxracer]

I think insulin is a very important hormone for building muscle. This is not just my opinion but a fact. I also think that most healthy bodybuilders should be able to use insulin to its maximum ability without injecting themselves with it. Instead they could eat the majority of their carbs (all high glycemic) in 1 or 2 meals meals a day taken in as fast as they possibly can and supplemented soon afterwards with about 100 g of pure protein or breast meat. They could also drink a couple glasses of water after their meal. The reasons I think this is a much better method are countless, but the most important reason is that your body will become insulin resistant way too quickly if you keep poking yourself with it. If you eat your carbs all in one meal eaten as quick as possible you not only produce the most insulin possible rhythmically (as the body would naturally instead of all at once) But you also allow for an entire day to gain back your sensitivity to the slin. If you are on a bulking cycle with AAS which allows you to work out wayyy more and still build muscle, you might want to have at least 3 carb/protein meals a day. I still think it would be beneficial to eat those meals in the style I stated above to maximize insulin production.

Does the speed you eat the meal really matter? ABSOLUTELY. Try eating the meal half as fast as you can and noting the mental effects of the insulin. Then try eating it as fast as possible and note the incredible difference. I have nearly passed out from eating a box and a half of oreos and 75 - 100grams whey isolate in 10 minutes with a glass or 2 of water.

Applying this method of eating, I have been able to take in the same amount of calories as usual and gain weight AT LEAST 5 - 10 times faster than normal. I cannot believe my eyes when I look at the scale. So do not try to tell me that you cannot get your body to naturally produce enough insulin to gain the maximum amount of weight for optimal results.

You're system dosen't even produce 1/10th of the insulin you inject into yourself and if you would force yourself to eat the ammount of carbs to increase your insulin level to what the injection is, you would be amazingly fat + you would more then likely get diabetes.

[Okinawa_Power]

I think insulin is a very important hormone for building muscle. This is not just my opinion but a fact. I also think that most healthy bodybuilders should be able to use insulin to its maximum ability without injecting themselves with it. Instead they could eat the majority of their carbs (all high glycemic) in 1 or 2 meals meals a day taken in as fast as they possibly can and supplemented soon afterwards with about 100 g of pure protein or breast meat. They could also drink a couple glasses of water after their meal. The reasons I think this is a much better method are countless, but the most important reason is that your body will become insulin resistant way too quickly if you keep poking yourself with it. If you eat your carbs all in one meal eaten as quick as possible you not only produce the most insulin possible rhythmically (as the body would naturally instead of all at once) But you also allow for an entire day to gain back your sensitivity to the slin. If you are on a bulking cycle with AAS which allows you to work out wayyy more and still build muscle, you might want to have at least 3 carb/protein meals a day. I still think it would be beneficial to eat those meals in the style I stated above to maximize insulin production.

Does the speed you eat the meal really matter? ABSOLUTELY. Try eating the meal half as fast as you can and noting the mental effects of the insulin. Then try eating it as fast as possible and note the incredible difference. I have nearly passed out from eating a box and a half of oreos and 75 - 100grams whey isolate in 10 minutes with a glass or 2 of water.

Applying this method of eating, I have been able to take in the same amount of calories as usual and gain weight AT LEAST 5 - 10 times faster than normal. I cannot believe my eyes when I look at the scale. So do not try to tell me that you cannot get your body to naturally produce enough insulin to gain the maximum amount of weight for optimal results.

Great post however how much of that weight that you are gaining is fat? I can't imagine eating a box of oreos and it not putting fat on you....You will have to do some serious cardio after your bulk cycle to get rid of all the fat..

[Narkissos]

I think insulin is a very important hormone for building muscle. This is not just my opinion but a fact. I also think that most healthy bodybuilders should be able to use insulin to its maximum ability without injecting themselves with it. Instead they could eat the majority of their carbs (all high glycemic) in 1 or 2 meals meals a day taken in as fast as they possibly can and supplemented soon afterwards with about 100 g of pure protein or breast meat. They could also drink a couple glasses of water after their meal. The reasons I think this is a much better method are countless, but the most important reason is that your body will become insulin resistant way too quickly if you keep poking yourself with it. If you eat your carbs all in one meal eaten as quick as possible you not only produce the most insulin possible rhythmically (as the body would naturally instead of all at once) But you also allow for an entire day to gain back your sensitivity to the slin. If you are on a bulking cycle with AAS which allows you to work out wayyy more and still build muscle, you might want to have at least 3 carb/protein meals a day. I still think it would be beneficial to eat those meals in the style I stated above to maximize insulin production.

Does the speed you eat the meal really matter? ABSOLUTELY. Try eating the meal half as fast as you can and noting the mental effects of the insulin. Then try eating it as fast as possible and note the incredible difference. I have nearly passed out from eating a box and a half of oreos and 75 - 100grams whey isolate in 10 minutes with a glass or 2 of water.

Applying this method of eating, I have been able to take in the same amount of calories as usual and gain weight AT LEAST 5 - 10 times faster than normal. I cannot believe my eyes when I look at the scale. So do not try to tell me that you cannot get your body to naturally produce enough insulin to gain the maximum amount of weight for optimal results.

This is the most ridiculous thing I've read in a long time.

[diesel405]

I think insulin is a very important hormone for building muscle. This is not just my opinion but a fact. I also think that most healthy bodybuilders should be able to use insulin to its maximum ability without injecting themselves with it. Instead they could eat the majority of their carbs (all high glycemic) in 1 or 2 meals meals a day taken in as fast as they possibly can and supplemented soon afterwards with about 100 g of pure protein or breast meat. They could also drink a couple glasses of water after their meal. The reasons I think this is a much better method are countless, but the most important reason is that your body will become insulin resistant way too quickly if you keep poking yourself with it. If you eat your carbs all in one meal eaten as quick as possible you not only produce the most insulin possible rhythmically (as the body would naturally instead of all at once) But you also allow for an entire day to gain back your sensitivity to the slin. If you are on a bulking cycle with AAS which allows you to work out wayyy more and still build muscle, you might want to have at least 3 carb/protein meals a day. I still think it would be beneficial to eat those meals in the style I stated above to maximize insulin production.

Does the speed you eat the meal really matter? ABSOLUTELY. Try eating the meal half as fast as you can and noting the mental effects of the insulin. Then try eating it as fast as possible and note the incredible difference. I have nearly passed out from eating a box and a half of oreos and 75 - 100grams whey isolate in 10 minutes with a glass or 2 of water.

Applying this method of eating, I have been able to take in the same amount of calories as usual and gain weight AT LEAST 5 - 10 times faster than normal. I cannot believe my eyes when I look at the scale. So do not try to tell me that you cannot get your body to naturally produce enough insulin to gain the maximum amount of weight for optimal results.

This is untrue. By reading this post tells me u have no idea how slin works.

[CHAP]

You need to throw that shit away your brushing with death their BUD

[gsxracer]

I'd rather play with death, then having side effects that will cause me to having to inject myself with something all my life,

As long as my system stays out of insulin dependency I will be happy, because the rest is not that bad, I mean first injection with insulin and I didn't feel any hypo, and I didn't even intake the max carbs I should be taking.

and considering all the people who currently have diabetes inject themself 2-3 times a day, and they're system produces insulin, so a healthy human should be able to monitor his insulin injecting and keep his system in normal function by cycling the insulin.

and if you have any cases of people having issues with insulin please post it, because I'd like to know and some other members might wanna know to.

Oh and I'm still alive after first night, yay me!

[Want_2_Get_BIG]

I'd rather play with death, then having side effects that will cause me to having to inject myself with something all my life,

As long as my system stays out of insulin dependency I will be happy, because the rest is not that bad, I mean first injection with insulin and I didn't feel any hypo, and I didn't even intake the max carbs I should be taking.

and considering all the people who currently have diabetes inject themself 2-3 times a day, and they're system produces insulin, so a healthy human should be able to monitor his insulin injecting and keep his system in normal function by cycling the insulin.

and if you have any cases of people having issues with insulin please post it, because I'd like to know and some other members might wanna know to.

Oh and I'm still alive after first night, yay me!

This Fuggin Guy cracks me up!!!

[wrathchild212]

I'd rather play with death, then having side effects that will cause me to having to inject myself with something all my life,

Are you talking about TRT and HRT?? well if u are..i think your wrong boddy..i know competitive bodybuilders that have been juicing since they wer 19..they are over 40 now with children and they have no problem with ther hormone levels..

the chances of u turning into a diabatic is waaaaaaaayy more higher than ending up in TRT..you should try AAS first..experience ther sides and everything then add slin if u wanted..and before that..id get my weight up too atleast 195lbs naturally before i think of anything else..

goodluck

[BJJ]

Are you talking about TRT and HRT?? well if u are..i think your wrong boddy..i know competitive bodybuilders that have been juicing since they wer 19..they are over 40 now with children and they have no problem with ther hormone levels..

the chances of u turning into a diabatic is waaaaaaaayy more higher than ending up in TRT..you should try AAS first..experience ther sides and everything then add slin if u wanted..and before that..id get my weight up too atleast 195lbs naturally before i think of anything else..

goodluck

Because they are still young. Repost in 20-30 years from now than I really want to see!
They points are:

1. Everyone's genetics is different and no one knows prior cycling what will happen to one's organism. You can only rely on other's experiences and therefore related applied statistics. That's it.
2. AAS at 19 years old is a very insane thing to do and "suggest".
3. Unless one wants to commit suicide in a long range, it should be kept in mind that we shall not remain young forever and the possible future implications of what we are doing right now, must be taken into account.

[Okinawa_Power]

I'd rather play with death, then having side effects that will cause me to having to inject myself with something all my life,

As long as my system stays out of insulin dependency I will be happy, because the rest is not that bad, I mean first injection with insulin and I didn't feel any hypo, and I didn't even intake the max carbs I should be taking.

and considering all the people who currently have diabetes inject themself 2-3 times a day, and they're system produces insulin, so a healthy human should be able to monitor his insulin injecting and keep his system in normal function by cycling the insulin.

and if you have any cases of people having issues with insulin please post it, because I'd like to know and some other members might wanna know to.

Oh and I'm still alive after first night, yay me!

If you have to take a shot because your a diabetic then your system is NOT making insulin.....Good luck and hope you don't go into a coma........

[gsxracer]

kinda hard to get it up to 195lbs naturally, when your gene pool is halting you're growth till you're metabolism drops down which is probably late in my 30's.

and sadly I don't have the patience to wait till then.

and all the reports that i've read and keep reading there no place in it that shows anyone going diabetic on insulin.

and I will add AAS to the equation if I dont see any muscles gain in the next 2-3 weeks,

And I am on cycling for 3 weeks on and 3 weeks off for a total of 15 weeks then I'm completly stoping my cycles till another 2-3 years to make sure my body has fully recovered from the harassment i'm giving to it.

[BJJ]

To the OP, you are making a big mistake, IMO.
I suggest you to stop, you may regret it.
Either ways, Good Luck.

[gsxracer]

after eating breakfast / high carb meal, my sugar level is at 6.6 after 2 hours after meal.

didn't take any insulin this morning, will do it post-workout again, just to make sure I get the dose correctly and make sure nothing goes wrong before I do in the morning also.

[gsxracer]

well BJJ, before you say I will regret it, I'd like to know what will I regret, because everything i've read nothing has kept me from stoping the use of insulin,

only side effect i've seen is hypo, and if you're stupid you can die from it, that's the only side effect i've seen up to now.

but if you do have more side effects please share might get me to stop.

[BJJ]

well BJJ, before you say I will regret it, I'd like to know what will I regret, because everything i've read nothing has kept me from stoping the use of insulin,

only side effect i've seen is hypo, and if you're stupid you can die from it, that's the only side effect i've seen up to now.

but if you do have more side effects please share might get me to stop.

By the way...
I think it is enough.

[gsxracer]

After getting this silly device, without the use of insulin i've seen my blood sugar level fluctuating from 3.2 to 9.1 by itself, and when I insert insulin my blood sugar level actually stays to a healthy # by itself,

so imo its not really hurting the production of my insulin, just helping when I overload it with carbs post-workouts,

[BJJ]

well BJJ, before you say I will regret it, I'd like to know what will I regret, because everything i've read nothing has kept me from stoping the use of insulin,

only side effect i've seen is hypo, and if you're stupid you can die from it, that's the only side effect i've seen up to now.

but if you do have more side effects please share might get me to stop.

After getting this silly device, without the use of insulin i've seen my blood sugar level fluctuating from 3.2 to 9.1 by itself, and when I insert insulin my blood sugar level actually stays to a healthy # by itself,

so imo its not really hurting the production of my insulin, just helping when I overload it with carbs post-workouts,

Since, at the VENERABLE old age of 23, you already use sarcasm and declare I am giving you "silly device", there is not reason for me to express why you should stop.

[gsxracer]

silly device ----> blood level sugar tester....

just a fyi.

and also its not sarcasism, its basicly my english is bad, and it might sound differently then it was intended.

[gsxracer]

and also I'm not here for pitty, I'm basicly here to help new bodybuilders or veterans who might be wanting to go on insulin but don't wanna be the guinea pig on testing it out because they don't wanna destroy there lives.

so basicly all you're advice is not directly going to me but to other members, and "stating this drug will kill you stop it now" is not really very helpful information

when you were young and you're mom told you not to speed or not to do drugs? did you listend to her... no.

a Smart persone woulda done research on what would be the side effects of doing the things, and others just experienced it and see what it did.

[BJJ]

and also I'm not here for pitty, I'm basicly here to help new bodybuilders or veterans who might be wanting to go on insulin but don't wanna be the guinea pig on testing it out because 1 they don't wanna destroy there lives.

so basicly all you're advice is not directly going to me but to other members, and "stating this drug will kill you stop it now" is not really very helpful information

when you were young and you're mom told you not to speed or not to do drugs? did you listend to her... no.

2 a Smart persone woulda done research on what would be the side effects of doing the things, and others just experienced it and see what it did.

1 And so you will on their behalf?
2 A smart person would listen my advice. For the way you express yourself you are way too young to even consider touching any drugs at all.

[gymnerd]

and also I'm not here for pitty, I'm basicly here to help new bodybuilders or veterans who might be wanting to go on insulin but don't wanna be the guinea pig on testing it out because they don't wanna destroy there lives.
so basicly all you're advice is not directly going to me but to other members, and "stating this drug will kill you stop it now" is not really very helpful information

when you were young and you're mom told you not to speed or not to do drugs? did you listend to her... no.

a Smart persone woulda done research on what would be the side effects of doing the things, and others just experienced it and see what it did.

Well basicly the vets here have prob all used slin at one time or another and probably did it the right way and beginers have no buisness near slin at all.