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    I was planning on going on a cycle in the upcoming few weeks, and went to my buddies house who has done AAS in the past and currently.

    He recommended to me that oral wouldn't do me any good as my metabolism is higher, so after he talked about it Deca was brought up. Now the problem i have is that I trust my friends advice, but with the research I've done contradicts what he said.

    He told me to run a deca cycle and when i asked about PCT he told me that the few guys he knows who have done deca don't use clomid/nolvadex and that you only need to run those depending on what your cycle is.

    So now I need some things cleared up obsviously. From reading the boards going on test only cycle for the first time is better then going on anything else. And clomid/nolva is mentioned on every PCT thread, how bad is it if I cant get my hands on any clomid or nolva? I see AR-R has them but I'm not sure if I could get it over the boarder into Canada without any issues and also thought you can get those items in pill form unless I'm mistaken.

    Could someone help clarify my questions?

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    Forget your friends advice and make sure you get the pct compounds its vital for recovery, or it is for some.
    What are your stats?
    How long have you been training for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by e.nergie View Post
    I was planning on going on a cycle in the upcoming few weeks, and went to my buddies house who has done AAS in the past and currently.

    He recommended to me that oral wouldn't do me any good as my metabolism is higher, so after he talked about it Deca was brought up. Now the problem i have is that I trust my friends advice, but with the research I've done contradicts what he said.

    He told me to run a deca cycle and when i asked about PCT he told me that the few guys he knows who have done deca don't use clomid/nolvadex and that you only need to run those depending on what your cycle is.

    So now I need some things cleared up obsviously. From reading the boards going on test only cycle for the first time is better then going on anything else. And clomid/nolva is mentioned on every PCT thread, how bad is it if I cant get my hands on any clomid or nolva? I see AR-R has them but I'm not sure if I could get it over the boarder into Canada without any issues and also thought you can get those items in pill form unless I'm mistaken.

    Could someone help clarify my questions?
    your friend is wrong, about everything. glad you came on here and asked man...the guy who got me the whole idea of AAS was the same and now having done research everything he tried telling me is the opposite of what you want to do. anyways deca isnt a good to run in your first cycle. stick with a basic test cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by laduem88 View Post
    your friend is wrong, about everything. glad you came on here and asked man...the guy who got me the whole idea of AAS was the same and now having done research everything he tried telling me is the opposite of what you want to do. anyways deca isnt a good to run in your first cycle. stick with a basic test cycle
    So a straight test cycle with a nolva/clomid pct is ideal?


    Oh I'm 5'6 @ 165 training for 2 years and 22yrs I know its not the best specs but I've decided that I do want to do a cycle an informed & researched one at that.

    So from what I've learnt clomid/nolva are ment to be ingested. I thought they were in pill form but the ARR shows otherwise?

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    22. I don't plan on rushing into it most likely will do some more research and obtain everything first, my biggest issue is gaining size strength slowly increases every couple of weeks but size is lacking.

    And my other question is injectable or oral benefit better for high metabolism's or is that another one of my buddies wrong info

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    Quote Originally Posted by e.nergie View Post
    22. I don't plan on rushing into it most likely will do some more research and obtain everything first, my biggest issue is gaining size strength slowly increases every couple of weeks but size is lacking.

    And my other question is injectable or oral benefit better for high metabolism's or is that another one of my buddies wrong info
    You have a great deal to learn and this site will give you all the answer's, first thing you need to sort your diet out and that will produce muscle at your age.

    You want to foget about any kind of steroids at your age, you could damage yourself what would effect you for the rest of your life, you need to use the high levels of testosterone what you have naturally at your age and sort your diet out.

    In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life.

    Around this age your Testosterone levels are the highest they going to be in your life naturally, so use what you have and don't take the risk of damage, I am passionate about this because ive seen it many times with young kids wanting to looking like their heroes and they think the answer is in an injection/tablet.

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    Yeah I realize if I get my diet down 100% it will help more then supps/drugs/etc, I was planning on going on but think I may wait it out alittle longer and deal with the slow size gain due to the fact reading a few threads on here and having been told complete opposites from friends.

    Thanks

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    Build a solid foundation from training naturally, if your not gaining at your age its all in your diet, wait another 2 yrs at least for drugs you could cause yourself more harm than good, your hormonal system hasnt fully developed yet so its not wise to shut it down. Go to the diet section and post up your diet.

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