My 1st BIG BOY cycle.

[The Bear 79]

I've done 3 cycles, 1st wuz 250 mg./wk. Test-E for 10 wks. 2nd wuz 500 mg./wk. Test-E + 400 mg./wk. Deca for 10 wks. Current is 750 mg./wk. Test-E + 500 mg./wk. Eq. + 250 iu/wk. H.C.G. + 50 mg./ed. D-Bol for 10 wks. (D-Bol only for 6 wks.)

I've gotten very good results from each cycle & hav had no health problems at all! My diet is on spot & I think I'm ready 4 a BIG BOY cycle! Wut do u think of this 12 week cycle:
1000 mg./wk. Test-E
500 mg./wk. Tren-E
500 mg./wk Eq.
80 mg./ed Anavar
50 mg./ed D-Bol (6 wks.)
250 iu./wk. H.C.G.

& proper pct 2 follow of coarse.

Age 32
Height 6'-2"
Weight 229 lbs.
BF % 9 - 11
Been lifting 13 yrs.
I want 2 start around March.

[Sicko]

Curious... if you had good results with your previous cycles, why do you want to increase your mg's each time if you are adding new compounds? Seems to me like you would benifit from just adding different compounds v.s. increasing mg's as well. I dont have experience with multiple compounds, I just wanted your take on why you feel you need to run mg's at such a high level.

[The Bear 79]

Mor Test = mor / bigger gains.

[SG2009]

Mor Test = mor / bigger gains.

More Test doesn't mean more muscles.
u need to balance it.
We suggest u periodically do Bloodwork
just to be safe.

[jelly]

That's way too much. You cray zay?

I'd change the HCG to 250iu twice a week with anything like that. In fact I would have used 250iu HCG for the cycle you're on now!

[The Bear 79]

2 Much??? I've seen worse.....way worse! I am using HCG now, I 4got 2 put it in the OP. I think I could complete this BIG BOY cycle with great success (health wise) & with massive......MASSIVE gains. My diet is rite, my age is rite, my weight is rite, I've got 3 successful cycles under my belt & an abundance of lifting experience. I'm in my prime bro!

[songdog]

More isnt always better.To quote Swifto.Grow into your dose.You grow in steps not all at once.I have seen guys do this and wasnt impressed.They couldve got the same on lesser amounts.But its your body Bro.

[jelly]

Wow^^^ Jinx songdog! We both popped that out at the same time stamp!

[jelly]

More isn't always better dude. Taking more AAS doesn't make you a big boy. Seeing you're 225lbs at 6'2" I don't think you even need that much shit.

[dec11]

id drop the EQ mate, going on stories in here. possibly front load the dbol and back load the var. otherwise looks good and should be a stomper. and guys, of course more gear will mean bigger results, if everything is in place

[The Bear 79]

id drop the EQ mate, going on stories in here. possibly front load the dbol and back load the var. otherwise looks good and should be a stomper. and guys, of course more gear will mean bigger results, if everything is in place

Thanx Brother, but I've long since abandon this idea, the only reason this tread was bumped is bcuz some douche bag is desperately trying 2 clown me cuz I showed every1 he's a liar & has something 2 hide.

[dec11]

Thanx Brother, but I've long since abandon this idea, the only reason this tread was bumped is bcuz some douche bag is desperately trying 2 clown me cuz I showed every1 he's a liar & has something 2 hide.

ah jez, i never noticed that, sorry. yeah i know the poster in question seems to have an agenda going on and isnt too well read on anything to be criticising anyone

[xelnaga]

^ Didn't realize the circumstances had changed.

[The Bear 79]

That's a shocking 3rd cycle. @ Op - you hand out a lot of great advice on this forum. Usually erring on the side of caution. I wonder how you would have responded if someone else had posted that cycle as their third. You have to be willing to call out and be called out- so I trust you dont take this as disrespect- its concern.

I can take it as well as i dish it bro, don't worry bout me, I've got thick skin. Curious tho........wut shocks u bout the 3rd cycle?

[xelnaga]

1. moving test dosage up too rapidly one cycle to the next
2. 500mg tren eth- if your going to try tren for the first time it should be ace
3. 6 weeks straight of 50mgs dbol ED- excessive risk

[The Bear 79]

1. moving test dosage up too rapidly one cycle to the next
2. 500mg tren eth- if your going to try tren for the first time it should be ace
3. 6 weeks straight of 50mgs dbol ED- excessive risk

I agree with every 1 of those points. But ur talkin bout the "Big Boy Cycle", not the 3rd cycle.

[dec11]

1. moving test dosage up too rapidly one cycle to the next
2. 500mg tren eth- if your going to try tren for the first time it should be ace
3. 6 weeks straight of 50mgs dbol ED- excessive risk

no it isnt...

[xelnaga]

no it isnt...

This isn't the type of fact that can be debated. Its personal preference. For me taking dbol at 50mgs for 6 weeks in excessive. I take a long term view of my risk/reward calculations. So even if you have fine blood work at 6 weeks on dbol, that does not make me comfortable with the dosage and time.

[dec11]

This isn't the type of fact that can be debated. Its personal preference. For me taking dbol at 50mgs for 6 weeks in excessive. I take a long term view of my risk/reward calculations. So even if you have fine blood work at 6 weeks on dbol, that does not make me comfortable with the dosage and time.

in what regard? ive taken it as long as 9wks before and have had three blood tests done this year and my organ results where perfect on my last result.
fine if you dont feel comfortable with it, but its wrong to generalise that its excessive based on your assumptions

[xelnaga]

in what regard? ive taken it as long as 9wks before and have had three blood tests done this year and my organ results where perfect on my last result.
fine if you dont feel comfortable with it, but its wrong to generalise that its excessive based on your assumptions

Is your contention that taking a liver toxic substance causes no harm as long as your blood work is fine?

[The Bear 79]

I've done 3 cycles, 1st wuz 250 mg./wk. Test-E for 10 wks. 2nd wuz 500 mg./wk. Test-E + 400 mg./wk. Deca for 10 wks. Current is 750 mg./wk. Test-E + 500 mg./wk. Eq. + 250 iu/wk. H.C.G. + 50 mg./ed. D-Bol for 10 wks. (D-Bol only for 6 wks.)

I've gotten very good results from each cycle & hav had no health problems at all! My diet is on spot & I think I'm ready 4 a BIG BOY cycle! Wut do u think of this 12 week cycle:
1000 mg./wk. Test-E
500 mg./wk. Tren-E
500 mg./wk Eq.
80 mg./ed Anavar
50 mg./ed D-Bol (6 wks.)
250 iu./wk. H.C.G.

& proper pct 2 follow of coarse.

Age 32
Height 6'-2"
Weight 229 lbs.
BF % 9 - 11
Been lifting 13 yrs.
I want 2 start around March.

This was the 3rd cycle

[xelnaga]

Whoops. Understood- But the points are still there.

[The Bear 79]

Whoops. Understood- But the points are still there.

Agreed.

[xelnaga]

Whats the big boy cycle look like now?

[The Bear 79]

Whats the big boy cycle look like now?

There isn't 1. I think I'm gona giv Ronnie's cruise & blast / slingshot method a try next. I'm thinkin 500 mg/wk Test. & 300 mg/wk Tren.

[gearbox]

i am going to try that cruise blast thing also...start in jan with test c and deca. (quick start with dbol)

bear so you know anyone who has used it?

[The Bear 79]

i am going to try that cruise blast thing also...start in jan with test c and deca. (quick start with dbol)

bear so you know anyone who has used it?

Actually, yes, I hav a good friend in Cali. that ONLY cycles that way. He gets bloods done every 90 days.

[dec11]

There isn't 1. I think I'm gona giv Ronnie's cruise & blast / slingshot method a try next. I'm thinkin 500 mg/wk Test. & 300 mg/wk Tren.

i am going to try that cruise blast thing also...start in jan with test c and deca. (quick start with dbol)

bear so you know anyone who has used it?

if you arent both on trt it could be in your future if you cycle like that guys

[The Bear 79]

if you arent both on trt it could be in your future if you cycle like that guys

Yeah I kno, that's the 1 thing that's been weighing heavy on me while contemplating this. I guess, overall wut I'm looking 4 is consistently significant gains, above & beyond the scope of my natty ability, without the depressing loss after PCT. These r the pro's & con's of TRT that I've weighed so far: Con = if I end up on TRT, it will quite take some time 2 get the dose correctly adjusted & 4 me 2 start "feeling normal" again. And then I'll hav 2 inject Test. 4 the rest of my life. Pro = If I end up on TRT, I'll never hav 2 PCT again, & I'll hav a legal script 4 Test. Wut do u think? Any thing significant I should take in2 consideration during my continued contemplation?

[xelnaga]

Yeah I kno, that's the 1 thing that's been weighing heavy on me while contemplating this. I guess, overall wut I'm looking 4 is consistently significant gains, above & beyond the scope of my natty ability, without the depressing loss after PCT. These r the pro's & con's of TRT that I've weighed so far: Con = if I end up on TRT, it will quite take some time 2 get the dose correctly adjusted & 4 me 2 start "feeling normal" again. And then I'll hav 2 inject Test. 4 the rest of my life. Pro = If I end up on TRT, I'll never hav 2 PCT again, & I'll hav a legal script 4 Test. Wut do u think? Any thing significant I should take in2 consideration during my continued contemplation?

Trt also takes the worry of crashing your test with stress, diet, or sleep problems.

[dec11]

Yeah I kno, that's the 1 thing that's been weighing heavy on me while contemplating this. I guess, overall wut I'm looking 4 is consistently significant gains, above & beyond the scope of my natty ability, without the depressing loss after PCT. These r the pro's & con's of TRT that I've weighed so far: Con = if I end up on TRT, it will quite take some time 2 get the dose correctly adjusted & 4 me 2 start "feeling normal" again. And then I'll hav 2 inject Test. 4 the rest of my life. Pro = If I end up on TRT, I'll never hav 2 PCT again, & I'll hav a legal script 4 Test. Wut do u think? Any thing significant I should take in2 consideration during my continued contemplation?

its up to you mate, big decision. btw, it isnt that difficult to get levels correct for trt.

[gearbox]

Actually, yes, I hav a good friend in Cali. that ONLY cycles that way. He gets bloods done every 90 days.

from cali myself so cool...and I am still deciding on what to do, cause as dec11 said with cycling the RR route trt may be in my future...not sure I what do risk that..I have no clue how bad trt is for life..

[xelnaga]

Ill let you have the final word.

[dec11]

Ill let you have the final word.

grow up, you have no foundation for your claim so dont act like a child about it

[HellRiserPL]

Ill be a good freins amd test it all for you, just send it too me and ill let you know if it work good or not .

[xelnaga]

Ill be a good freins amd test it all for you, just send it too me and ill let you know if it work good or not .

Most over used joke on these forums. Stick to bodybuilding, comedy isnt your gig.

[HellRiserPL]

Most over used joke on these forums. Stick to bodybuilding, comedy isnt your gig.

ah dang it, ther's a Polak joke there

[Jean Claude]

Cali in the building. I'm in LA, where are you guys?

[wantaesthetics]

hey bro im interested in how your recovery was for cycle 2 without hcg ? (unless u used it in which case disregard the q). and how long were u off after pct if u don't mind me asking because I want to see how effective hcg is in terms of recovery with people here.

[The Bear 79]

hey bro im interested in how your recovery was for cycle 2 without hcg ? (unless u used it in which case disregard the q). and how long were u off after pct if u don't mind me asking because I want to see how effective hcg is in terms of recovery with people here.

My 2nd cycle recovery was a complete success according 2 blood work. But now that I kno about HCG I wont b cycling again without it, it works very well. It was about 2 + yrs after my 2nd cycle / PCT, b4 I started my 3rd.