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    Couldnt hold myself

    Just got back from a walk with my dogs and my GF.

    We were crossing one park where one guy was standing with his dog, that dog attacked mine little girl jack russel parson, I went there to take them apart and the guy kicked my dog to ribs pretty hard and she fly off almost a 1meter!

    I couldnt hold myself came to him and start screaming 10cm face to face all the bad words I know!

    My GF took me away, I am very glad for that, she is still pissed at me, but I just had blackout and couldnt hold back

    I am home sitting on chair and still SHAKING!

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    Poor dog

    Glad you were able to walk away. I don't if I could have walked away from that, I probably would have shattered his jaw.
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    I was pretty close going to take both of them and split them up.

    And he without a emotion kicked her(14lb)

    Cant even eat breakfast

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    Bit of an over reaction from that guy were they off leash?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdos900
    Bit of an over reaction from that guy were they off leash?
    No they werent.

    But my dog was just trying to protect herself.

    Its like in human world, you can be friend with everybody!

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    You did the right thing in my opinion. Good to get in his face, GOOD you didn't hit him. S good job, be cool like …crazy mike
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy mike
    You did the right thing in my opinion. Good to get in his face, GOOD you didn't hit him. S good job, be cool like …crazy mike
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    Thanks my friend!

    The animal love is just VERY strong thing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaspaco View Post
    Just got back from a walk with my dogs and my GF.

    We were crossing one park where one guy was standing with his dog, that dog attacked mine little girl jack russel parson, I went there to take them apart and the guy kicked my dog to ribs pretty hard and she fly off almost a 1meter!

    I couldnt hold myself came to him and start screaming 10cm face to face all the bad words I know!

    My GF took me away, I am very glad for that, she is still pissed at me, but I just had blackout and couldnt hold back

    I am home sitting on chair and still SHAKING!
    How far do you think you could have kicked that bastard if you kicked HIM in the ribs? I applaud you got being able to walk away. When I see someone hurting children and animals (and saying the word 'duhhhh' to a much lesser extent) turns me into a barbaric cretin. My pets are like children in my eyes. You kick my pet, you may as well have just attacked my child. Grrrrrrr! so unnecessary too. No need to drop kick a 14lb JRT. Jesus. I would have had your back all the way there man.

    Do you know who he is in case.youre dog needs treatment? He needs to pay.

    For any treatment.

    I hope your dog is ok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Java Man

    How far do you think you could have kicked that bastard if you kicked HIM in the ribs? I applaud you got being able to walk away. When I see someone hurting children and animals (and saying the word 'duhhhh' to a much lesser extent) turns me into a barbaric cretin. My pets are like children in my eyes. You kick my pet, you may as well have just attacked my child. Grrrrrrr! so unnecessary too. No need to drop kick a 14lb JRT. Jesus. I would have had your back all the way there man.

    Do you know who he is in case.youre dog needs treatment? He needs to pay.

    For any treatment.

    I hope your dog is ok.
    I told him that!

    If I can trow him on the ground and start kicking him.

    Than my GF grab my hand and took me away.

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    If their on the leash easy enough to pull them away pulling dogs apart while fighting isnt the safest thing to do risk of getting bitten but to kick a dog is just down right dirty

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdos900
    If their on the leash easy enough to pull them away pulling dogs apart while fighting isnt the safest thing to do risk of getting bitten but to kick a dog is just down right dirty
    Agree if they are 100lb pitbulls but little jack

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    Im not really a animal lover so ill sit on the fench here but what If rolls were reversed how would you have delt with the situation? You dont put your hands between fighting dogs so isn't kicking the only way to eliminate the hazard?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Euroholic View Post
    Im not really a animal lover so ill sit on the fench here but what If rolls were reversed how would you have delt with the situation? You dont put your hands between fighting dogs so isn't kicking the only way to eliminate the hazard?
    Assuming they have collars on, they're easy to seperate. If not, a dog this size you can just grab by the scruff of the neck. As Gaspaco said though, if they were larger dogs, you havent got a lot of choice but to control the situation by distraction by belting it with the lead or kicking it in a controlled manor. Again though, if its just a large dog attacking your small dog, and the owner isnt around to stop it, too right I would kick it in the ribs or legs.

    In your situation Gasp, Id have laid out the owner, thats for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Euroholic
    Im not really a animal lover so ill sit on the fench here but what If rolls were reversed how would you have delt with the situation? You dont put your hands between fighting dogs so isn't kicking the only way to eliminate the hazard?
    I would reader get bit than see my dog beading!

    BTW he could kick his dog not mine tho...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaspaco View Post
    I would reader get bit than see my dog beading!
    Are you sure? You dont sound like your thinking rationally. One thing i lernt in the army is dont let emontion get in the way of the task.

    Maybe the kicking was justified maybe it was not i dont no. People see things diffrently in the heat of the moment. Thats why hindsight is a good thing!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Euroholic

    People see things diffrently in the heat of the moment. Thats why hindsight is a good thing!!!
    fully agree on this one.

    But in this morning situation, I was going to take them apart with my hands no matter if they would bite my hands off!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaspaco View Post
    fully agree on this one.

    But in this morning situation, I was going to take them apart with my hands no matter if they would bite my hands off!!
    Well i would hate to see you loose a finger or something and be out of the gym for a long time!!!!!!! At the end of the day you only got your self to rely on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Euroholic

    Are you sure? You dont sound like your thinking rationally. One thing i lernt in the army is dont let emontion get in the way of the task.

    Maybe the kicking was justified maybe it was not i dont no. People see things diffrently in the heat of the moment. Thats why hindsight is a good thing!!!
    Maybe you should have "lernt" the basic English language a little better. Your Army even takes retards, huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dante Diamond View Post
    Maybe you should have "lernt" the basic English language a little better. Your Army even takes retards, huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Euroholic View Post
    Im not really a animal lover so ill sit on the fench here but what If rolls were reversed how would you have delt with the situation? You dont put your hands between fighting dogs so isn't kicking the only way to eliminate the hazard?
    I can't believe you. What do you like dude. The other dog was bigger, but even if we were fitting how about someone wanting to break it up kicked you in the ribs. You don't like dogs so you don't know how you would feel in Gaspaco's shoes. You don't have pets so you need to stay out of this one.
    My kids are grown, but now I have my "Buddy" see him up there, you hurt him and I'll rip your face off. That's how I feel. Don't even yell at him. I scold him, no anyone else. We have a ten (10) yr. old Black Chow/ Blk Lab. Screw with him and I'll take you out after he gets done.
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    They were on leashes, if I read that correctly. Pulling the leashes, HARD, would have done it. It sounds like this guy knee-jerk reacted without trying any other method. Animal love/hate has nothing to do with this. These are pets going for a walk. The issue is was booting a 14lb terrier hard enough to make him take flight necessary. I'm pretty sure that if you had a pet animal you'd love that one even if you don't like others. I don't like most kids (brats) but MY kid is golden in my eyes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaspaco View Post

    Agree if they are 100lb pitbulls but little jack
    True he went about it the wrong way

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    This sucks. Perhaps leashing the dogs in the future will prevent this from happening again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1
    This sucks. Perhaps leashing the dogs in the future will prevent this from happening again.
    I know lunk, but jack russels are SO hyperactive you cant get them tired on leash!


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    Was his dog off leash also or just yours?

    I walked through the park a few months back and a women's pit was not fixed and off leash and came after my dog who is also not fixed but on leash. I stomped the shit out of her dog repeatedly.

    People are so oblivious to dogs behavior. Your dog might be fine but if his isnt and he has his leashed who is really at fault. I am glad your dogs ok but I get really annoyed by situations like this. The park is not your back yard keep it leashed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rwy View Post
    Was his dog off leash also or just yours?
    Both leashed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Both leashed.
    Doesnt sound like it...lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdos900 View Post
    Bit of an over reaction from that guy were they off leash?
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    No they werent.
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    Doesnt sound like it...lol

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    Its funny I met this russian guy at the park has a shepherd too and we were talking and he was telling me a story about his dog who started a fight with another dog which was a mastiff. He was actually blaming the other owner for not breaking it up when his dog leashed and this russian kids was not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Both leashed.
    EDIT: I pointed out something that had already been straightened out. Deleted that.

    General info not aimed at austinite:

    In my state the fault is with the owner that is not in control of their dog. If my dog is on leash and an off leash dog runs up and a fight starts it the the off leash owner that is cited regardless of whose dog bites. Dog fights are inevitable so it is the owner's responsibility to be in control of their dog at all times.

    What is unacceptable is the other person kicking someone else's dog. I would have pummeled them for that too. It makes me angry just thinking about it. I have given my dog a tap on the butt to try and get her attention but even tapping other dog would never enter into my mind. Kicking any dog would never happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyVegas View Post
    EDIT: I pointed out something that had already been straightened out. Deleted that.

    General info not aimed at austinite:

    In my state the fault is with the owner that is not in control of their dog. If my dog is on leash and an off leash dog runs up and a fight starts it the the off leash owner that is cited regardless of whose dog bites. Dog fights are inevitable so it is the owner's responsibility to be in control of their dog at all times.

    What is unacceptable is the other person kicking someone else's dog. I would have pummeled them for that too. It makes me angry just thinking about it. I have given my dog a tap on the butt to try and get her attention but even tapping other dog would never enter into my mind. Kicking any dog would never happen.
    I disagree. Two wrongs don't make a right. The first wrong would have been loss of control of the dog. True, kicking the offending dog is harsh. But pummeling the non offending dog owner would have landed you a trip in jail. Plus OP is a big boy and i'm not speaking figuratively. Another clue is OP's girlfriend NOT siding with OP (he over reacted).

    Years ago, was at my buddies house. He had a viscous Dalmatian, we were in the back yard, and the dog lunged at my son, who was probably nine at the time. The dog was unprovoked, just being viscous. The dog was maybe 70 lbs. I kicked that bastard so hard in the ribs that he bounced back a couple of feet.

    It is unfortunate ANY dog got kicked, but it was really the owner of the unleashed dog who is to blame here.

    And there may be more going on to the story than we know. After all, there is a reason why OP's girlfriend is pissed at him. We are only getting one side of the story, and we really had to dig to get this much information from him.

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    I stand corrected! RWY you get a cookie. Please see Times Roman in the Human Resources Department.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite
    I stand corrected! RWY you get a cookie. Please see Times Roman in the Human Resources Department.
    Sorry guys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaspaco View Post
    Sorry guys!
    Just remember that there are dogs out there who should not be off leash like this guys. If he knows his dog bites quickly then he should have had it on a leash. Your dog sounds friendly but you cannot predict the behavior from other dogs. High energy can be too much for a timid dog which will start a fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rwy View Post
    Just remember that there are dogs out there who should not be off leash like this guys. If he knows his dog bites quickly then he should have had it on a leash. Your dog sounds friendly but you cannot predict the behavior from other dogs. High energy can be too much for a timid dog which will start a fight.
    I agree

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    I stand corrected! RWY you get a cookie. Please see Times Roman in the Human Resources Department.
    no biggie dude

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaspaco View Post
    Just got back from a walk with my dogs and my GF.

    We were crossing one park where one guy was standing with his dog, that dog attacked mine little girl jack russel parson, I went there to take them apart and the guy kicked my dog to ribs pretty hard and she fly off almost a 1meter!

    I couldnt hold myself came to him and start screaming 10cm face to face all the bad words I know!

    My GF took me away, I am very glad for that, she is still pissed at me, but I just had blackout and couldnt hold back

    I am home sitting on chair and still SHAKING!
    I know that we shouldn’t snap. I wouldn't have had the self-control that you showed. Hit me or yell at me and I will ignore it. Attack one of my family members or my dog and we have a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaspaco View Post
    Just got back from a walk with my dogs and my GF.

    We were crossing one park where one guy was standing with his dog, that dog attacked mine little girl jack russel parson, I went there to take them apart and the guy kicked my dog to ribs pretty hard and she fly off almost a 1meter!

    I couldnt hold myself came to him and start screaming 10cm face to face all the bad words I know!

    My GF took me away, I am very glad for that, she is still pissed at me, but I just had blackout and couldnt hold back

    I am home sitting on chair and still SHAKING!
    Something doesn't sound right?

    It sounds like the other guy and the dog were standing there. And it sounds like your dog got away from you and approached the other dog. The two dogs started fighting and the guy kicked your dog trying to get it away. Then you had to "go there" and take them apart?

    Did I get that right?

    Tell you what, if that's right, then if your dog escaped from you, came at me and my dog, and a fight ensued, I'd be pretty pissed. You and your dog were not in the same location, so strike one against you! there are leash laws, not sure how that applies to your area. And I think I agree with your GF. You blew a fuse over a situation that law enforcement would probably say was your fault, and got in this blokes face.

    So how/why did your dog get away from you? Why were you not there to control your animal?

    Fukken A, I'd kick your dog too if I had to to try to get it off mine

    Sorry, no sympathy here. Size of dogs don't matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Times Roman

    Something doesn't sound right?

    It sounds like the other guy and the dog were standing there. And it sounds like your dog got away from you and approached the other dog. The two dogs started fighting and the guy kicked your dog trying to get it away. Then you had to "go there" and take them apart?

    Did I get that right?

    Tell you what, if that's right, then if your dog escaped from you, came at me and my dog, and a fight ensued, I'd be pretty pissed. You and your dog were not in the same location, so strike one against you! there are leash laws, not sure how that applies to your area. And I think I agree with your GF. You blew a fuse over a situation that law enforcement would probably say was your fault, and got in this blokes face.

    So how/why did your dog get away from you? Why were you not there to control your animal?

    Fukken A, I'd kick your dog too if I had to to try to get it off mine

    Sorry, no sympathy here. Size of dogs don't matter.
    Normally dogs comes to each other and smell each other.

    My dog came to his, smelled, his dog attacks mine and my was trying to protect herself!

    I was half meter from them to take them apart and he just kicked her!

    Does it sounds right to you??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaspaco View Post
    Normally dogs comes to each other and smell each other.

    My dog came to his, smelled, his dog attacks mine and my was trying to protect herself!

    I was half meter from them to take them apart and he just kicked her!

    Does it sounds right to you??
    Maybe I'm a bit older and see potential problems more than others. I would never take my dog in public off a leash.

    I would never allow my dog to approach another dog unless a signal from the owner indicating it was OK (did the other dog owner signal it was OK for your dog to approach?). My remaining dog is a shrimp, so for my own dogs safety, I would not let her approach.

    Your dog approached, and not the other way around, so technically, you are liable. The other dog owner apparently had control of his dog, and you did not have control of your dog.

    Before Kicking, I probably would have jerked back on my dog's leash and issued a stern command, like "NO"

    If I were a juror in court, I'd say it was your fault.

    Sorry

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    (but the other guy didn't have to be so harsh, but he could easy argue self defense)
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