Tren and test cyp

[folly]

Hey all,

I have currently done a 10 week cycle of tren and test cyp, I was planning on doing the cycle a little bit longer, but I had to stop it due to other reasons.

My cycle looked like this

Week 1-10
Tren ace 50mg eod
Test cypionate 100mg E4D
N2Guard 2 caps morning, 2 evening, 3 bedtime

The gains these 10 weeks have been great and no serious side effects!

The thing now is that I am going to start with my PCT, this is how it looks like now and I would appriciate feedback I was planning on starting 3 days after last pin

Clomid: 50/50/25/25
Nolvadex: 40/20/20/20
Arimidex: 12,5mg (unsure about how long)
N2guard: 2 caps morning, 2 evening, 3 bedtime
Unleashed

Any feedback on the PCT would be appriciated, planning on doing my last injection this week. Thanks!

[MuscleInk]

Hey all,

I have currently done a 10 week cycle of tren and test cyp, I was planning on doing the cycle a little bit longer, but I had to stop it due to other reasons.

My cycle looked like this

Week 1-10
Tren ace 50mg eod
Test cypionate 100mg E4D
N2Guard 2 caps morning, 2 evening, 3 bedtime

The gains these 10 weeks have been great and no serious side effects!

The thing now is that I am going to start with my PCT, this is how it looks like now and I would appriciate feedback I was planning on starting 3 days after last pin

Clomid: 50/50/25/25
Nolvadex: 40/20/20/20
Arimidex: 12,5mg (unsure about how long)
N2guard: 2 caps morning, 2 evening, 3 bedtime
Unleashed

Any feedback on the PCT would be appriciated, planning on doing my last injection this week. Thanks!

You don't run an AI post cycle. You should have run it ON cycle. The whole purpose is to limit aromatization of testosterone to estrogen. Elevated serum estrogen in men can have adverse effects on your heart, prostate, immune function and more. Many of these adverse events won't reveal themselves until it's too late (a blood clot won't let you know of an impending ischemic event).

What about a dopamine agonist? You didn't control your serum estrogen and running tren with elevated estrogen will increase your serum prolactin which can be far more dangerous than elevated estrogen.

No HCG? So why would you not chose to keep your leydig cells firing during your cycle? Healthy leydig cells will increase your chances of recovery post cycle. Without HCG you may be producing the testosterone levels of a woman post cycle.

PCT is nolvadex and clomiphene.

Let's hope you haven't done any permanent damage to yourself.

Be smart and get blood work done ASAP.

[folly]

You don't run an AI post cycle. You should have run it ON cycle. The whole purpose is to limit aromatization of testosterone to estrogen. Elevated serum estrogen in men can have adverse effects on your heart, prostate, immune function and more. Many of these adverse events won't reveal themselves until it's too late (a blood clot won't let you know of an impending ischemic event).

What about a dopamine agonist? You didn't control your serum estrogen and running tren with elevated estrogen will increase your serum prolactin which can be far more dangerous than elevated estrogen.

No HCG? So why would you not chose to keep your leydig cells firing during your cycle? Healthy leydig cells will increase your chances of recovery post cycle. Without HCG you may be producing the testosterone levels of a woman post cycle.

PCT is nolvadex and clomiphene.

Let's hope you haven't done any permanent damage to yourself.

Be smart and get blood work done ASAP.

Thanks for the feedback,

I have HCG 5000IU.

Nolvadex, Clomid, Unleashed and N2Guard for Pct? What is your guys thougts?

[itsjayman02]

Hey all,

I have currently done a 10 week cycle of tren and test cyp, I was planning on doing the cycle a little bit longer, but I had to stop it due to other reasons.

My cycle looked like this

Week 1-10
Tren ace 50mg eod
Test cypionate 100mg E4D
N2Guard 2 caps morning, 2 evening, 3 bedtime

The gains these 10 weeks have been great and no serious side effects!

The thing now is that I am going to start with my PCT, this is how it looks like now and I would appriciate feedback I was planning on starting 3 days after last pin

Clomid: 50/50/25/25
Nolvadex: 40/20/20/20
Arimidex: 12,5mg (unsure about how long)
N2guard: 2 caps morning, 2 evening, 3 bedtime
Unleashed

Any feedback on the PCT would be appriciated, planning on doing my last injection this week. Thanks!

This should have been planned in conjunction with your AAs

Arimidex is dosed usually dosed in 1mg.....but it should have been taken on cycle!!

Also you have test c which is a long ester so pct starts 14-21 days after last pin!!

[numbere]

Any feedback on the PCT would be appriciated, planning on doing my last injection this week. Thanks!

OP Your clomid dosages should look similar to 100/50/50/50. PCT should begin 14 days after last pin when using a long ester test. Also, an AI should not be used during PCT, it's unnecessary as serum levels have dropped. Eat more calories to support your new tissue.

AAS Tips on Keeping Gains for the Moderate User

Arimidex is dosed usually dosed in 1mg.....but it should have been taken on cycle!!

The recommended baseline dosage for dex is 0.25-0.5mg/EOD, have BW halfway through cycle, then adjust accordingly. 1mg will likely crash most people's E2.

[Stosh_112]

^^^^^ 14 days to start pct after last Enath pin.

[PBJtime]

Bro I'm on the same right now at week 6 with cyp 250 wk & tren ace 75 eod and you definitely need a AI along with some prami if you decide to run another cycle with these compounds . I hope you coming off goes well !

[itsjayman02]

OP Your clomid dosages should look similar to 100/50/50/50. PCT should begin 14 days after last pin when using a long ester test. Also, an AI should not be used during PCT, it's unnecessary as serum levels have dropped. Eat more calories to support your new tissue.

AAS Tips on Keeping Gains for the Moderate User

The recommended baseline dosage for dex is 0.25-0.5mg/EOD, have BW halfway through cycle, then adjust accordingly. 1mg will likely crash most people's E2.

I was quoting they come in 1mg tablets and yes .25-0.5mg every other day is the correct dosage!!

[folly]

I was quoting they come in 1mg tablets and yes .25-0.5mg every other day is the correct dosage!!

Im not taking dex since I am done with the cycle right? I was wondering about the best PCT for recovery

[folly]

So my PCT will be

Clomid: 50/50/25/25/25/25
Nolvadex : 40/20/20/20/20/20
N2guard: 2 caps morning, 2 evening, 3 bedtime
Unleashed

But I am unsure when I should start cause i did 50MG tren ace eod and 100mg test cyp e4d. Isn't the cyp at such a low level that I should start when the ace clears? What do you guys think?

[NACH3]

So my PCT will be

Clomid: 50/50/25/25/25/25
Nolvadex : 40/20/20/20/20/20
N2guard: 2 caps morning, 2 evening, 3 bedtime
Unleashed

But I am unsure when I should start cause i did 50MG tren ace eod and 100mg test cyp e4d. Isn't the cyp at such a low level that I should start when the ace clears? What do you guys think?

As numbere & muscle ink stated above... You also shouldn't run hCG for PCT - as it's Main purpose is to help you recover faster by taking it on cycle and to help your leydig cells recover/keep in check during your cycle not after as w/hCG during PCT will only slow your recovery! ... And no AI DURING PCT either... 14 days after last pin of Test Cyp... Is when you should start your PCT! Clomid - 100/50/50/50 coupled with Nolvadex - 40/40/20/20...

Good luck my man!!!

[folly]

The PCT calculator said I should start at day 8

[Back In Black]

Ask your question in our PCT section. I suspect your answer will be 14 days but Jim will look after you over there.

[kelkel]

On point advice above but I'll add this...

As the op did mistakenly did not run HCG during his cycle he could easily insert it in the period from his last injection up to about 3 days prior to pct starting. Any is better than none at this point and will prime his testies for pct.