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    Cyp or E for a beginner cycle

    Like I stated in previous threads I'm on TRT which I am getting some bloating on that dosage so I must be receptive to water retention…currently I am working on getting BF percentage in order and going to blast a couple cycle in a few months, The last time I did any type of cycle I was doing 500Cyp. anastr Hcg don't remember a lot of the specifics I just remember tremendous gains but also remember a lot of water weight gain and erection issues… Part of my question because of my hard work and exercise getting my BF in order I would hate it to Counteract everything I work for when the time come. Or Would Test E be a better regiment to alleviate some of the water weight gain

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    In my opinion the differences between cyp and Enth are negligible. Estrogen control and diet modifications (low sodium, water intake) will play more vital roles in water weight control than changing from cyp to Enth. I've seen anecdotal reports of slight variations in bloat between the two, but personally I've never experienced it. Biggest different is in the ester and 1/2 life.
    Both are going to cause slight bloat...comes with the territory but it can be controlled regardless of the ester with the correct protocols (as mentioned) in place.
    I'd be interested to hear if others have noticed signicant bloat differences between the two.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by SampsonandDelilah View Post
    In my opinion the differences between cyp and Enth are negligible. Estrogen control and diet modifications (low sodium, water intake) will play more vital roles in water weight control than changing from cyp to Enth. I've seen anecdotal reports of slight variations in bloat between the two, but personally I've never experienced it. Biggest different is in the ester and 1/2 life.
    Both are going to cause slight bloat...comes with the territory but it can be controlled regardless of the ester with the correct protocols (as mentioned) in place.
    I'd be interested to hear if others have noticed signicant bloat differences between the two.....
    I have done both and have not seen any difference. That said, when I cycle I cut out Sodium drastically. I have never had bloating issues when I do that. I also feel it helps with BP.

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    And my memory serves me correct I was .5 anastrozole E3d and .25 hCG e3d doing this next day after injection would that for a call possibly change to help… And of course I'll be his blood work to start this whole process

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    Bloating is a common side effect when one begins TRT.

    You've been on TRT for less than a month. You shouldn't be considering a blast so soon.

    You need to wait until you get settled in with your TRT regimen and reach homeostasis.

    It will probably be a year before you're ready for a blast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post
    Bloating is a common side effect when one begins TRT.

    You've been on TRT for less than a month. You shouldn't be considering a blast so soon.

    You need to wait until you get settled in with your TRT regimen and reach homeostasis.

    It will probably be a year before you're ready for a blast.
    yes you are correct I'm am A long ways from a blast but when doing research questions arise.And stated earlier maybe months is optomistic
    thanks though
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    Quote Originally Posted by tazmaniac1
    Like I stated in previous threads I'm on TRT which I am getting some bloating on that dosage so I must be receptive to water retention…currently I am working on getting BF percentage in order and going to blast a couple cycle in a few months, The last time I did any type of cycle I was doing 500Cyp. anastr Hcg don't remember a lot of the specifics I just remember tremendous gains but also remember a lot of water weight gain and erection issues… Part of my question because of my hard work and exercise getting my BF in order I would hate it to Counteract everything I work for when the time come. Or Would Test E be a better regiment to alleviate some of the water weight gain
    Sounds like your estrogen got too high during your last cycle. Especially with the erectile dysfunction and water retention. You might want to consider increasing your AI this time. I get good results with .25 EOD of Arimidex. As far as using Test C or E, I really don't think it matters, both esters are long with Enanthate being a bit longer. It's good that you are getting your BF down before your next cycle. BF over 15% makes it more difficult to keep estrogen in check. I hope this helps. Good luck Bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strongblood View Post
    Sounds like your estrogen got too high during your last cycle. Especially with the erectile dysfunction and water retention. You might want to consider increasing your AI this time. I get good results with .25 EOD of Arimidex. As far as using Test C or E, I really don't think it matters, both esters are long with Enanthate being a bit longer. It's good that you are getting your BF down before your next cycle. BF over 15% makes it more difficult to keep estrogen in check. I hope this helps. Good luck Bro.
    thanks yes it does help

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    The Cyp and Enth esters are almost the same. I like Cyp better myself but it really doesn't matter. Longer esters will require more water to break down and thus hold a little more water than shorter esters like Prop.

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