How long for testo enanth to kick in?

[Gameness]

Im on a 10 week testo enanth cycle, 500mg/wk...2 shots, first cycle.

Right now I am at the end of week 4, I have gained 15 pounds of what I think is water weight, I have a little more oily skin and I feel a little stronger than normal.

When does the more dramatic effects kick in? The extreme muscle gains etc?

I understand that it is different from person to person but would like to hear about your experiences. Thanks.

[D7M]

should be happening in the next week or two.

what were your starting stats?

[HawaiianPride.]

I would consider 15lbs to be pretty extreme to me. What are you expecting to gain off this cycle? 30-40lbs?

Enanthate does it magic anywhere from weeks 3-5 for most.

[Gameness]

should be happening in the next week or two.

what were your starting stats?

6ft 180 pounds at the start of cycle, not sure about BF since I dont have accurate equipment, middle abs are visible, lower ones are not.

training background: MMA fighter not a strongman/bodybuilder. Looked for speedy recovery and increased muscle, explosiveness, decrease fat.

Im at 198 pounds right now, most of it is probably water weight.

5-6 weeks for testo enan to kick in should be normal no? I keep hearing anything from 3-6 weeks...

[HawaiianPride.]

Anywhere from 3-5 weeks assuming diet intake is up to par and your not over-training.

[Gameness]

I would consider 15lbs to be pretty extreme to me. What are you expecting to gain off this cycle? 30-40lbs?

Enanthate does it magic anywhere from weeks 3-5 for most.

I am expecting to gain 35 pounds...and this is considering I do cardio as well as lift. I feel that most of these 15lbs is water weight. So it should kick in even more sometime now and the effects will be in full blast to week 10?

[Gameness]

Anywhere from 3-5 weeks assuming diet intake is up to par and your not over-training.

Right now I eat alot, I dont worry too much about slight fat gains since I will prepare for a fight after the cycle and will lose quite a bit of it. I eat 6 times a day, 3 proper meals and 3 snacks, protein shake in the morning and at night, vitamins/omega3/antioxidants as well. I dont weigh my food but I have doubled my portions.

Training looks like this; MMA on mondays and wednesdays, lifting is done on tues/thurs/friday....rest on sat/sun. I took out my normal cardio sessions since I need to rest.

[HawaiianPride.]

I am expecting to gain 35 pounds...and this is considering I do cardio as well as lift. I feel that most of these 15lbs is water weight. So it should kick in even more sometime now and the effects will be in full blast to week 10?

Yes. 35lbs is quit a goal, though achievable, this is a clear indication you started AAS when you were nowhere near your NGP.

[Gameness]

Yes. 35lbs is quit a goal, though achievable, this is a clear indication you started AAS when you were nowhere near your NGP.

Absolutely. I did not do much heavy lifting (except lifting humans) prior to my AAS cycle. I needed to stay in my weight class and it really didnt help me in my sport to have bigger muscles. I did high intensity work (crossfit) with kettlebells, barbells, pull ups etc and MMA to get ready for fights.

If I wanted to become as big as possible, I should have been lifting natural for a couple more years before starting AAS. But as I mentioned that is not my goal.

When does the testo start to slow down? Maybe when I start PCT 14 weeks after last pin?

[HawaiianPride.]

Usually weeks 8 and beyond they start to plateau or slow down, assuming your dose is consistent throughout the cycle. Yes 12 days after last pin begin PCT.

[ghettoboyd]

Absolutely. I did not do much heavy lifting (except lifting humans) prior to my AAS cycle. I needed to stay in my weight class and it really didnt help me in my sport to have bigger muscles. I did high intensity work (crossfit) with kettlebells, barbells, pull ups etc and MMA to get ready for fights.

If I wanted to become as big as possible, I should have been lifting natural for a couple more years before starting AAS. But as I mentioned that is not my goal.

When does the testo start to slow down? Maybe when I start PCT 14 weeks after last pin?

im thinking you ment 14 days after last pin,thats when you start pct...

[leatherface7]

Absolutely. I did not do much heavy lifting (except lifting humans) prior to my AAS cycle. I needed to stay in my weight class and it really didnt help me in my sport to have bigger muscles. I did high intensity work (crossfit) with kettlebells, barbells, pull ups etc and MMA to get ready for fights.

If I wanted to become as big as possible, I should have been lifting natural for a couple more years before starting AAS. But as I mentioned that is not my goal.

When does the testo start to slow down? Maybe when I start PCT 14 weeks after last pin?

Regardless, you should have been lifting natural for a couple more years before starting AAS. I am in the same boat, have done martial arts for 16 years and MMA for 6+ years but I have lifted for 10 years, focusing soley on strength speed and power before considering AAS.

Jumping into AAS, especially for strength purposes, can certainly lead to injury seeing as your ligaments tendons and joints are not ready for that type of increased weight load.

Anyhow, I will not preach anymore. You say you want to stay in the same weight class, and also gain 35lbs.. so what exactly are your goals here pertaining to training and MMA?

[Gameness]

im thinking you ment 14 days after last pin,thats when you start pct...

yes of course, misstype.

[Gameness]

Regardless, you should have been lifting natural for a couple more years before starting AAS. I am in the same boat, have done martial arts for 16 years and MMA for 6+ years but I have lifted for 10 years, focusing soley on strength speed and power before considering AAS.

Jumping into AAS, especially for strength purposes, can certainly lead to injury seeing as your ligaments tendons and joints are not ready for that type of increased weight load.

Anyhow, I will not preach anymore. You say you want to stay in the same weight class, and also gain 35lbs.. so what exactly are your goals here pertaining to training and MMA?

Yes I agree that I should have been lifting natural for more years before AAS.
I try to increase the weight gradually so I wont injure my ligaments etc...in some lifts I could easily double up the weight but I dont because I know my limit when it comes to my joints/tendons and so on.

My goal is to put on as much muscle as possible and bulk up to 220 pounds (at start of cycle I was 180 and today I am 200 pounds). And after that I will start cutting, I want to walk around 195 pounds and fight at 180...staying as big as possible. I discussed this plan earlier this year when I was training in Brazil and the pro fighters there thought it sounded good and many of them had done the same in the past.

Another question;

I am going to run HCG before I start the Nolva as well and want to know if this sounds good.
Week 7-11 (total 5 wks) 1000iu HCG/wk then I start the Nolva exactly 14 days after last pin of testo. And a stupid question along with it, can I shoot the HCG and the testo at the same time, or should I switch needles/pump and do 2 separate shots?