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    Quote Originally Posted by johan
    They are still a dictatorship and you can never be sure about the mindset of a dictator.

    I cant comment on pakistan since I know very little about them. But they are atleast not a religious dictatorship.
    Being religious doesn't necessarily make a dictatorship worse. you can be rational and religious

    Quote Originally Posted by johan
    The problem is there because Iran refuses to show they are trusthworty. Trust isnt given it is earned. By acting like bigshots that doesnt need to listen to anyone they lose the worlds trust. Just like america has lost the worlds trust.
    The media spins things to much I agree with that. But when dealing with the possibility of nuclear weapons no concern is to great.

    At this point it doesnt matter if its fair. At this point Iran NEEDS to show they are mature enough to let go of the big inflated ego and do what the world wants them to do. I realy do not understand Irans objections since they have everything to gain and nothing to lose.
    They have considerable to lose b/c Iraq allowed full inspections and was still invaded.

    Quote Originally Posted by johan
    Well I was a kid when the cold war ended. But anyone back then beliving the russians where not intelligent and resonable obviously lacked both those things themself...
    I was a kid too.They weren't dumb, just believing what their government and the media says. Just like the case against Iraq, there were voices critizing the governments views but they were not widely seen. Lacking information most people will just believe the government and the media.


    Quote Originally Posted by johan
    Well the IAEA must have had some reason to the suspicious about Iran. Finding enrichened uranium sure didnt help and didnt Iran have dealings with that paki nuclear scientist that wanted to spread paki knoweledge on nuclear weapons? IAEA isnt discriminating against Iran. They are obviously concerned.

    The NPT would be followed precisecly in a perfect world. This isnt a perfect world and Iran needs to show it is resonable and trustworthy. So far Iran has proved its unresonable and hostile.
    Iran did show trust by voluntarilary suspended enrichment for several months to build confidence. Note this is something it is not required to do under the NPT. Showing trust needs to work both ways.

    Quote Originally Posted by johan
    I do not for one second agree with the invasion of Iraq just so you know..

    The difference betwen US, UK and Iran is that US has a big mouth but they can back up what they say. Usualy they dont say things that are to horrible though.
    Iran on the other hand has a big mouth but not the capacity to back it up yet. If they get nukes who will stop them from doing what they clearly and openly wants to do(eradicate Israel).

    US, UK ect never went into Iraq with the purpose of eradicating the country and killing its inhabitants. Iran wants to remove Israel from existance. That is the difference and that is why Iran can not be trusted aslong as those religious ****s rules that country. If Iran was a democracy I would not deny them enrichment plants.
    The US can back up what it says. It accuses Iran of developing nukes like it accused Iraq of. It's not foolish to think their saying a bunch of bull and that they really want to attack Iran. The Iranian president is all talk. And don't forget Israel 200+ nukes and what would happen if they launched one. The government is religious, not crazy.

    Quote Originally Posted by johan
    The cuban missile crisis is a perfect example that even two resonable and educated countries can be put into a situation where they might launch nukes. Throw in unresonable, agressive religious fanatics into the mix with a open and clear agenda to eradicate another nuclear power and Im sure glad I live far far away.
    This case highlights how diplomacy can work even at the worst of times. Iran is no where close to the cuban missle crisis and couldn't even develope nukes yet. The US should have one and one negotiations to solve all grievences.
    Last edited by mcpeepants; 08-18-2006 at 09:56 PM.

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