My theory on when it is time to juice...

I believe most people tend to overestimate where they should be as a natty...Most think if they're not hitting close to 200 lbs they haven't reached genetic potential which is not true...

The fact is, depending on your height, your body AS A NATURAL will only allow you to hold so much muscle..And like I've said before unless your pushing 6ft you will not reach 200 lbs with low digit body fat%....

Example, let's say you're 5'10" and you are 180 lbs at 9% as a natty...That's great, what's the reason to say you need to get bigger?

Because at that height you've come close to how much muscle your body can hold AS A NATTY....Any extra weight you put on will be fat....

So what's the point of the 5'10" 180 lbs 9% guy to get to 200 lbs? All this person would be doing mostly is gaining bodyfat...Great, so you hit 200 lbs..But all you did was raise your bf% close to 20% but didn't hardly gain anymore muscle....

For every 1" on a person you can give or take between 5-10 lbs of weight as a natty in low bf%...So start with a range here 5'10" in low digit body fat% (10% and below) will roughly be in the range 175-180 lbs...So how ever tall you are, you can figure out where you should MOST LIKELY be when you are in low bf%...

Now I'm I saying this is set in stone? No, but MAJORITY of people are going to and should fall within this category...

So personally, for me, I'd rather see 5'10 175-180 lbs below 10% use steroids then someone who is 5'10 200 lbs at 16% bf...Because again, as a natty you can only hold so much muscle before it starts to spill over as fat...

This is where hormones come in...No point in gaining bf% because you think you need to get bigger...Increase food on hormones when you are low bf% and instead of gaining fat you will gain MOSTLY muscle....

So in the end, take 5'10 180 lbs at 9% who use hormones...He can EASILY get to 200 lbs on hormones while still staying lean and in shape...Then build from there...