4th cylce input

[Doc]

ok you guys I've put my next cycle up a couple of times to get your input, and have changed it a little each time. I think I'm gonna stick with my final one unless you guys see something that must be changed or added,

4th cycle

wk1-7 75mg fina eod
wk1-10 100mg prop eod
wk1-10 400mg enathate wk
wk10-15 50 mg winny ed
wk1-15 10mg nolvadex ed

pct: Pheednos PCT

what you guys think

[tycin]

inject the prop and fina ed and i wouldnt do prop and test e, pick one. i'd run the fina 8 weeks and the winny i would add in while ur still on test so do the winny the last 6 weeks of cycle ending the same day u end ur prop. then start pct 3 days later

jmo....

[BodyMechanic]

First off run the tren at least 8 weeks at 100mg EOD or 50mg ED. Run the winny weeks 7-12.

[Doc]

any one

[G-1000]

it looks good to me. i think i would go 8 weeks with the fina. and you might wont to add 200mg of b-6 tp help with gyno from the fina

[XxElitexX]

Run PROP....the water retention from the test E would ruin the hardness and vascularity you get from the tren and winny...you dont HALF to run the those ED but to keep blood levels more steady it would be better for sides...good luck bro.

[Doc]

why shouldn't I run prop and test e together

[Doc]

so no test E

[Doc]

I don't know about running the fina for 8 wks make my own kit will it last that long

[BodyMechanic]

You could run prop the first 4 weeks until the E kicks in or just run the prop straight through.

[Doc]

any one there

[Doc]

what do you think is better, or what if I run prop for the first 4 wks then again after the enanthat

[tycin]

any one there

wut do u mean? u have gotten answers... wut else do u wanna hear

[tycin]

what do you think is better, or what if I run prop for the first 4 wks then again after the enanthat

i would personally run prop all the way but ya could start with prop like said above til the teste kickss, u could also end off with prop for the last couple weeks but its kinda ponitless

[Doc]

do you think the test e will cause a lot of water retention, I chose to put it in because in the steroid profiles on the first page it says that this is minimal water retention

[tycin]

i bloat a lot from test e but u can run letro to fight that.

[Doc]

what about the nolvadex

[Doc]

I've read that test E isn't suppose to cause much water retention, and I know that prop doesn't cause it, prop is a fast acting test and enanthate is slower

[sp9]

So lets see you are starting out with prop at 3.5 injections a week at 100mg an injection so 350 per week, then in week 5 say the 400 mg of test will be kicking in to give you 400+350 (approx) a week injections. Have you run test at 750 a week before? ** What did your previous cycles look like ** ??

Why not run prop as a kickstart weeks 1-4 and then test e the whole time at 2 injects per week. I really don't bloat as long as I am using nolva. If you still want about 700 per week then start prop off at 100mg a day, drop it after week 4 and inject 350 mg test e twice a week, from week 1 on. I have no experience with fina or winny because I like to stay away from anything with hairloss potential. Anyway ...happy cycling.

[Doc]

what if I eliminate the test E

[zuke]

i am planning my next cycle to be prop and tren, let me know how it works

[zuke]

what did your other cycles look like?

[sp9]

If you eliminate test e you will need more prop if your goal is to run around 700mg weekly. You will be injecting daily then at 100mg a day and if its 100mg a ml then that 1cc per day. Prop I have heard is no picnic in the pain department so hopefully you will be using something to cut it with that helps reduce the pain.

I am no fan of ED injections but to each their own.

[Doc]

My last 3 cycle have been 1st cycle deca300wk and enethate400wk for 12wks, 2nd cylce was 30mg dbol ed and 500mg wk of test e, two years ago was my last cycle and I did 100mg fina eod and 100mg prop eod for about 8wks,

700mg a wk does seem a bit high so maybe I'll cut the enanthate in half or completely elimainate, but I'm still gonna run the winny,