Some pics at beginning of cycle....

[V5RED]

WOw, you look great.. Keep working hard.. I don't know about the starting early.. I guess this is being said based on your weight? Anyway there are some experts here but you seem to have a great base keep working hard!!




Oldman

if he has a great base, then i must have had a fortress when i started

he was small when he started and is still small

id love to see the diet used by the original poster along w/ his training

[oldman]

if he has a great base, then i must have had a fortress when i started

he was small when he started and is still small

id love to see the diet used by the original poster along w/ his training

Dam you are kind of an @ss. I have 70lbs on this guy also but at least his abs are not hanging over his short, hint hint.

Was it to early for him to use AAS?? That is not up to me OR you to decide and not everyone wants to be a tank, some guys may want to maximize what they have.

To the OP, you are going to get bashed by haters here.. some will give good advice that may not be what you want to hear and some are just haters... let them both be the motivation to help you meet your goals.

This is suppose to be a forum to learn and lift each other up not try and break each other down.

Oldman

[V5RED]

Dam you are kind of an @ss. I have 70lbs on this guy also but at least his abs are not hanging over his short, hint hint.

Was it to early for him to use AAS?? That is not up to me OR you to decide and not everyone wants to be a tank, some guys may want to maximize what they have.

To the OP, you are going to get bashed by haters here.. some will give good advice that may not be what you want to hear and some are just haters... let them both be the motivation to help you meet your goals.

This is suppose to be a forum to learn and lift each other up not try and break each other down.

Oldman

i was honest with him and now let me be honest with you

you are acting like a 3 y/o that got told hes ugly and the comments werent even directed at you

boo hoo cant take criticism(of other ppl)

well i wont tell a skinny dude he looks ready for gear, and as for my fat o well, i could be cut but then id not be gaining serious muscle mass

70lbs great, well i have 150lbs on him, and when i competed back in may i had 40lbs on him and i was leaner(this was b4 any cycles)

[oldman]

i was honest with him and now let me be honest with you

you are acting like a 3 y/o that got told hes ugly and the comments werent even directed at you

boo hoo cant take criticism(of other ppl)

well i wont tell a skinny dude he looks ready for gear, and as for my fat o well, i could be cut but then id not be gaining serious muscle mass

70lbs great, well i have 150lbs on him, and when i competed back in may i had 40lbs on him and i was leaner(this was b4 any cycles)

No comment, have a good day bro

Oldman