I have heard this, and that sounds really nasty, is that true, you would not want the fatty tissue to go into the muscle. That would just make you softer and I am kinda disgusted by the thought of it, any comments on this?
I have heard this, and that sounds really nasty, is that true, you would not want the fatty tissue to go into the muscle. That would just make you softer and I am kinda disgusted by the thought of it, any comments on this?
who's been telling you that ???
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I have heard several people talk about it, and also it is used before slaughter to get that fat into the meat. That is the white fat shit you see in the meat that is not supposed to be there. I read about it somewere to, and no way I am gonna use that shit if that's true.
WTF? I never heard this. I'm going to go apeshit if this is true.
God, I hope not.
better not be true I just re-uped on clen
It was detected on cattle if im right.
Look at pubmed.
Anybody got any reports on this subject?
I think I found someone from Sweden before, but I have to find it again and translate then.
Clenbuterol
Clenbuterol är en astmamedicin, en s.k. beta-2-stimulerare, används numera endast för veterinärbruk. Förbjöds i Sverige 1992. Tas i tron att det är fettförbrännande, i själva verket omfördelas fettet och sprängs in i muskeln. En vetenskaplig rapport påvisar att när man gav det till djur inför slakt för att få marmorerat kött uppstod förgiftningssymtom hos barn och åldringar som åt av köttet.
En annan studie som gjorts på laboratorieråttor visar vävnadsdöd runt hjärtat (epicardiet). Sammantaget kan det ge skador på hjärta och blodkärl samt ge upphov till cirkulationsrubbningar och arytmier.
I cant translat because my swedish sucks![]()
That clarifies everything. lol.
lol.....Originally Posted by MAXIMA5
I don't see how clen can be used to marble beef so IMO total BS.
Man, I wish! I'd be a clen freak if that was true.Originally Posted by TinTin78
It posted twice for some reason.
online translator gave me this:
Clenbuterol is an asthma medicine, a s.k beta-2-stimulerare, is used now only for veterinary customs. Forbade's in Sweden 1992. Be taken in the faith that the is grease burning up, in the actual agency to be re-distribute the fat and is blasted in in the muscle. A scientific report demonstrates that when one gave the to animal before butchering in order to few marmorerat meat arose förgiftningssymtom at children and old persons that at of the meat.
Another study as been done on laboratorieråttor shows fabric death around hjärtat (epicardiet). All in all can the give damages on heart and blood vessels and to give origins to cirkulationsrubbningar and arytmier.
hmmmmm
Courtesy of yours truly:
"Clen is an asthma medication, a so-called beta-2-agonist, nowadays only used for veterinary purposes. Banned in Sweden in 1992. Administered in the belief that it burns fat, in actual fact the fat is redistributed and exploded into the muscle. A scientific report showed that when it was given to animals before slaughter in order to get marmorerat [I don't know of any good translation for this word - it basically means that the object (in this case meat) has the look of a marble surface] meat, poisoning symptoms were detected in children and elderly who ate of it.
Another study that was performed on laboratory rats showed tissue necrosis around the heart. In summary it [clen] can cause damage to heart and vessels, and lead to circulatory dysfunctions and arrythmia."
I say nonsense.
never heard of this??
Hmmmmm......guess I'll trash my Clen if this is really the word!
I bet it can also lead to cancer and aliens landing in your back yard.
Thanks Klobb, What they are referring too is called 'futile cycling' basically it when fat is released and redeposit resulting in very little calories burned. I don't understand why this would happen with clen though, maybe the cows didn't hit up the treadmill enough?
Oh and yeah clen does kill heart cells but at the doses you guys use you all should be fine.
I will translate that one, that is a horrible one, I am from Sweden...
Clenbuterol is an Asthma medicine a so called beta-2-stimulater, is used now only for veterinary customs. It was forbidden in Sweden 1992 in faith that it burns fat, but infact, the fat itself is blasted(exploded) into the muscle.
A scientific study shows that they gave caddle clenbuterol before their slaughter to get marbled meat (don't know correct word) then poison symptoms arose in children and aging people that ate from the meat.
Another study done on labarotory rats showed certain tissuedeath around the heart (epicardiet). In the whole it can make damage on the heart and bloodvessels and give origin to circulation disturbances and arythmia (if that is the right word)
Well that is the best translation I can give, it does not sound so good.
I also looked around other Swedish discussionboards and it is well known, but some guy said something about it.
He says "In most studies it is actually said to do that to the horses and such who is given clenbuterol. But this being a medicine for horses, and the studies are on horses so on those studies the fat is distributed into the muscle. It does that because it binds to more receptors on horses and one of them stimulate the insulin production and thereby that effect of blasted fat into muscle. But we humans have a very small amount of these receptors so on us it will not stimulate the insulinproduction and thereby not give that undesired effect.
But this still leads me to think about all those bodybuilder who use insulin and such, then they might get this side effect. We need more info on it, but it is interesting to know.
Lång näsa.
haha, nörd
I did not see your translation klobb, I just looked at that greek version, lol, nice one klobb.
Clen is a selective beta 2 agonist, that's the only receptor is hits.
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