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2nd cycle best cycle?
has any one heard that ur 2nd cycle has the potential to be ur best cycle if done properly? the science behind this is that ur body does not know eactlywhat to do on the first cycle and when the 2nd one starts your body is better equipped to deal with the steroids and as a result u hav the best 2nd cycle?
i was told this and thought i would post it to see what u guys thought
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Hmmmmmm Interesting, never heard that but would love to see some Data that would support that theory...
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ha ye so would i, thats y i asked lol. but was ur 2nd cycle a great,good or normal cycle sman?
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My second cycle was Uneducated, and I puffed up like the Pillsbury dough boy...got stong, but had no clue as to water retention or bloating.....damn i hate learning the hard way.....lolol
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hahaha fair enuf, on the topic, how can u stop bloating? reducing sodium intake?
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You can use an AI during the cycle. Like Arimidex or the like.Originally Posted by END-RAGE
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Use Arimidex or Letro
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ok sounds good
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What is your next cycle going to consist of?
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never heard of that, but ive heard that your first is the best for muscle size and gains if its designed right for the individual.
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how can i design a cycle that is right for me? if i hav no previous cycle history to compare it to
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That is exactly why First cycles should be a single ester TEST ONLY... that will give you the base tobuild YOUR history and experience off of since Almost EVERY cycle should be test based! You add one compound at a time to each cycle so that you LEARN what does what to YOUR specific body!!
SO FIRST CYCLE TEST ONLY
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aiight thanks, yeh im going to run test prop for my first cycle, i have two 10ml bottles at 100mg/ml. do u hav any suggestionsas to how i should run this. i am not just buying what i can afford and then doing whatever i can withit, i hav an idea as to how i want to run it but ur suggestions would be appreciated. Plz consider the amount i hav, surly if my cycle will be compromised due to lack of test then i will buy more, but if u could suggest a cycle with this amount i would appricate it, as i am not keen on doing a whole lot for my first cycle
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There you go.....
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is that a answer to my question?
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First cycle 500mg per week of test, you would be better doing test e or cyp due to the amount of times your going to inject yourself, if your going to use prop id go with EOD or ED shots,
What are your stats? age and how long been training?
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traning for approx 5 years now, 22 years old, 220 lbs, 5'11 bf-reasonably low
i am not planning to do this cycle straight away, i have a comp comming up in a few months (natural comp) and will start soon after that.
how many weeks do u suggest my first cycle go for?
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You need a little more research bro. There is much more to a cycle than just which test to take and how much. Your Diet has to be perfect for the goals you have, your training and MOST importantly are the PCT compound(s) and any AI you may want to run DURING the cycle to prevent estrogen buildup and water retention.
Each Test ester has different side effects at diferent doses for different people...
basic first cycle is Test E or Cyp as Marcus stated 500mgs/week each of those only require two shots per week as opposed to Prop which would require ED shots or minimum EOD shots. I would run a basic 12 week cycle of Test E
Read up on PCT and then come back and lay out your entire proposed cycle and we can help you tweek it!!
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i have researched the PCT (also done reasearch before) and i feel clomid is what i will run. but i still need the help in regaurds to the test prop.
i have already bought the test prop and have two 10ml bottles at 100mg/ml. so could u plz suggest and amount that i could take considering the amount i have, and that it is my first cycle.
Btw: clomid 10mg ED, how do u feel about this also
thanks
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Not sure what part of this you need translated? 500mgs/WEEK wether it be Prop, E or Cyp 500 is 500
Considering the amount you have, YOU DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH to run a decent cycle. you have enough for only 20 shots @ 100mgs/shot that's only 40 days MAX(if doing EOD) which is only just over 5 weeks! Do the math, its NOT worth it
AND, If you can't run a cycle CORRECTLY and have the mental maturity to understand that, then you really shouldn't run anything until you can do it the right way. You only get one chance at doing your first cycle. Don't screw it up and possibly your health just becaue you are excited and anxious
You still have a good 2-3 years before you should really need to consider using AAS anyway. Your body is still producing enough hormones that IF your diet and training were good, you could make incredible gains now naturally!!
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Clomid only, MAY be ok, or it may not....not sure how you will react to the test, so if it was MY body on the line here, I would also make sure to have an AI to use maybe during the cycle depending on water retention, and possibly Nolva in case of signs of Gyno. Better to have and not need, then to need and not have!!
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