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    Chances of becoming diabetic

    Ive been doing alot of research on slin, considering using it before my cycle in a couple of months. If proper protocol is followed, whats the chance of becoming a diabetic from it?? Im going to monitor my blood sugar levels and follow strict protocol using humalog with pwo shake.

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    Slin to none if ran safely like you stated above.....now watch what reaction that posts gets..lmfaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooo

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    Pinn I hope you dont mind I posted this, let me know Ill delete if so, but this seems to be the safest way Ive had slin explained to me.


    I’ve recently had several enquiries from guys interested in running Insulin during cycles, or at PCT. Most(if not all) seemed very fearful of Insulin. And with good reason. If Insulin is run incorrectly a host of things could happen to you, including death. With that said, I refer you to Mr. Sparkles thread on Insulin. All you questions can be answered there….



    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=192403





    This post is just a simple guide for first time insulin users to follow in a safe, and effective manner.

    I urge you to invest in a glucometer. This will give you a close estimation of where your BG(Blood Glucose) levels are (Safe Zone 70-90,but independent upon each individual).You want to take in adequate amounts of carbs, but not too much. As the excess will be stored as fat. And yes, if you aren’t careful, you can add quite a bit of excess body fat. As you’ll see in my dosing example below, we drop carbs slightly as to not to acquire excess BF.






    As you already might know. The basic rule is 10g Dextrose to 1 iu of Insulin. Now the trick is to get in tune with your body so to take advantage of the insulin spike, which allows nutrients to be shuttled to the muscle cells rapidly, doing so without taking in excess carbs which equates to body fat.



    Below is a 30 day cycle(which is recommended) for Insulin. I don’t use Insulin on off days from the gym. Some like to use Insulin on off days in the morning to fight off the catabolic state we’re in upon awakening. I feel upon awakening in the morning a shake consisting of Whey/Dextrose would be sufficient in bringing you out of this catabolic state from fasting over an 8 hour period while sleeping. Remember, you can become Insulin insensitive if abused. So by running slin on training days only reduces that threat.



    I’ll use the 5 day training split as an example here. That will give you 20 days “on” slin.



    Day 1 : 5 iu slin/50g Dextrose

    Day 2 : 5 iu slin/50g Dextrose

    Day 3 : 5 iu slin/50g Dextrose



    Congratulations!! You’ve survived thus far. I assume(hope) you’ve been monitoring your BG levels. You probably have noticed that you are in the higher range using 50g of dextrose PWO. Now it’s time to drop the carbs slightly. Don’t fret. This should be more than ample amounts(of carbs) to get you through to your PPWO meal.



    Day 4 : 5 iu slin/40g Dextrose

    Day 5 : 5 iu slin/40g Dextrose



    At this point you should have a good idea of how you react with Insulin in terms of BG levels vs. carb intake .



    Let’s up the dose……



    Day 6 : 6 iu slin/50g Dextrose

    Day 7 : 6 iu slin/50g Dextrose



    By this point in time you should be feeling good(ie;more confident),but still respectful to Insulin. Let’s test the waters for 3 days to give you the feel of things. By that I mean we’ll drop the carb intake slightly so you can find a comfortable ratio in regards to iu’s vs. carbs per gram.



    Day 8 : 6 iu slin/40g Dextrose

    Day 9 : 6 iu slin/40g Dextrose

    Day 10 : 6 iu slin/40g Dextrose



    Now, the above ratio’s are safe and effective. You can stop right here and continue on for the next 10 days at the above doses/ratio’s. Or you can move forward slightly.



    Day 11 : 7 iu slin/50g Dextrose

    Day 12 : 7 iu slin/50g Dextrose

    Day 13 : 7 iu slin/50g Dextrose

    Day 14 : 7 iu slin/50g Dextrose

    Day 15 : & iu slin/50g Dextrose



    If you felt confident with the above protocol.You could experiment on days 14-15 and drop your dextrose to 40g.If you do so, please monitor your BG levels every 15 minutes or so. And have glucose tabs, or another source of quick carbs handy (like orange juice) to stave off any possible signs of hypoglycemia. Don’t panic should this happen,just drink a glass of orange juice, or similar, and in 10 minutes the symptoms will have subsided.



    Ok, on to your final week.



    Day 16 : 8 iu slin/60g Dextrose

    Day 17 : 8 iu slin/60g Dextrose

    Day 18 : 8 iu slin/60g Dextrose

    Day 19 : 8 iu slin/60g Dextrose

    Day 20 : 8 iu slin/60g Dextrose



    Congratulations! You just completed your first cycle/experience with Insulin in a safe an effective manner. I stopped at 8 iu’s, Being that is enough to get your feet wet with the drug. You can experiment later on. This was simply a guide.



    One last thing. Guys ask “Which way is better?” To take your Whey/Dextrose in one shake, or Dextrose first, and whey 15 minutes later”?

    Bottom line is, it’s just preference.



    ***All Veteran Insulin users,please feel free to add to this****

    ~Pinnacle~

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    hey guys thanks for the info, I really appreciate it. I follow that protocol whenever I do decide to sack up and do it. Ill keep you posted. thanks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGuns101
    Pinn I hope you dont mind I posted this, let me know Ill delete if so, but this seems to be the safest way Ive had slin explained to me.

    That's great you posted that.

    I was just out fishing for parrots in my initial post.I was in a hurry and worded it wrong though.Hence the reason I didn't get any bites.....oh well,I'll fish around in this forum some more.I heard tale there are a couple real big parrots in here.Damn,I'd do anything to catch one of those fukers.Tony(hooker) was actually lucky on several occasions to get a hook in a real big one in here,but couldn't gaff(and boat) the big parrot.Damn shame too.

    ~Pinnacle~

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