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[Johny-too-small]

I am 5'10, 165lbs, 12% (+/-) bf, 1st cycle ever. I have a moderate level of knowledge concerning nutrition and weight training.

I have worked out for 10 years off-and-on and due to emotional distress I lost 35lbs.

I am going to start Tbol (alone) at 40mg/ed for the first week and then increase to 50mg/ed for the next five weeks. I am not interested in stacking this with any other anabolics. Here are the questions I have:

1. I plan on increasing my caloric intake to 3500 kcal/ed, is this enough?
2. Based on what I have researched, I understand that after a Tbol cycle one does not require an anti-estrogen (clomid or nolvadex). Is this true?
3. I am currently using Anavol (creatine) and would like to continue using it with Tbol. Would this help increase my gains?
4. Would the addition of Nitric Oxide (No2) or any other supplements be worthwhile?

Thanks!

[Swifto]

I am 5'10, 165lbs, 12% (+/-) bf, 1st cycle ever. I have a moderate level of knowledge concerning nutrition and weight training.

I have worked out for 10 years off-and-on and due to emotional distress I lost 35lbs.

I am going to start Tbol (alone) at 40mg/ed for the first week and then increase to 50mg/ed for the next five weeks. I am not interested in stacking this with any other anabolics. Here are the questions I have:

1. I plan on increasing my caloric intake to 3500 kcal/ed, is this enough?

All depends on your goals.

2. Based on what I have researched, I understand that after a Tbol cycle one does not require an anti-estrogen (clomid or nolvadex). Is this true?

To an extent, yes. Tbol's structure is such that it shouldnt aromotase. However, I have seen user's report gyno from its use on other boards. Keep a SERM on hand IMHO. Its very rare, but a reality.

3. I am currently using Anavol (creatine) and would like to continue using it with Tbol. Would this help increase my gains?

Many use Creatine during PCT to attain strength and mass. I use it whilst "on" and "off". Aswell as L-Glutamine 10g/ED. Yes, Creatine will increase your gains and make recovery easier.

4. Would the addition of Nitric Oxide (No2) or any other supplements be worthwhile?

I'd suggest L-Glutamine 10g/ED. Also multi-vitamins, ***** 3's, flaxseed oil.

Thanks!

BOLDS

Whats your PCT protocol?

[Johny-too-small]

Thanks for your advice. My goals are to gain 6-8lbs of permanent mass. Is this possible?

Thank you for bringing up the question regarding my PCT protocol. I need to research this before answering. Any suggestions?

[Hellmaskbanned]

Thanks for your advice. My goals are to gain 6-8lbs of permanent mass. Is this possible?

Thank you for bringing up the question regarding my PCT protocol. I need to research this before answering. Any suggestions?

You should be able to put 6-8lbs naturally pretty easy on your frame. So I'm guessing with tbol it should be pretty easy if you actually lift and eat.

[Swifto]

Thanks for your advice. My goals are to gain 6-8lbs of permanent mass. Is this possible?

Thank you for bringing up the question regarding my PCT protocol. I need to research this before answering. Any suggestions?

PCT is more important than the cycle itself IMHO. Spend some time in the educational and pct forum's. I use and suggest HCG/Nolva/Proviron for PCT.

Yes, I think 6-8lbs is possible with the correct diet, training and rest. Infact, as above, I think its fairly possible naturally by looking at your current weight.

[dangeroussafety]

bro 6 pounds in 6 weeks is not a good goal to have for a cycle...i mean...like hellmask said that could be done naturally if everything were in order...might as well throw in some prop for 8 weeks its cheap and you will gain far more and feel better

[soccer#3]

i just fínished my tbol only cycle a few days ago. im in my pct right now doin nolva at 20mg/ed for 2-4 weeks.

i gained close to 10lbs but im a hard gainer and i do a lot of runnin for my soccer. i cut the cycle a few days short cuz of the stomach pains.

1. if ur diet is a clean diet on 3500 cals should be enough for nice gains
2. my pct is like i mentioned earlier nolva 20mg/ed for 2-4 weeks. my nipps were a lil puffy at times
3. never been a big fan of creatine..
4. never been a big fan of NO2 neither, to me both of em are useless

i would definetly recommend a tbol only cycle. especially if its ur first, good luck

[tboney]

Just the nolva should be fine

[Johny-too-small]

Thanks to all for the wealth of info. I will be starting my cycle soon and will be updating the progress as it comes.

[Johny-too-small]

Also, is three weeks long enough for my pct?

[soccer#3]

Also, is three weeks long enough for my pct?

what are u gonna be runnin? nolva? then i'd say yes.. u could also run it another week if u like

[Tren Bull]

im on alot of oral roids right now, including tbol...

i feel like im gonna puke

[Hellmaskbanned]

im on alot of oral roids right now, including tbol...

i feel like im gonna puke

lol

Just started or been on?

When I start out taking any orals I feel like I have the flu for an entire week then it seems to subside after that.

[Johny-too-small]

what are u gonna be runnin? nolva? then i'd say yes.. u could also run it another week if u like

Yes, I thought Nolva would be a great choice. In addition, I thought it would not be a bad idea to keep Clomid on hand as well. From what I read they both have some good advantages over each other, no?

[Tren Bull]

lol

Just started or been on?

When I start out taking any orals I feel like I have the flu for an entire week then it seems to subside after that.

ive been on for a little over 3 weeks. im pretty sure the reason i felt sick when i posted that is cause i got food poisoning. taking my tbol wasnt helping my stomach feel any better

[Johny-too-small]

If Tbol gives me additional gas, my girl is going to kick me out of the house. She calls me "midnight-blowout" as it is.

[Natty99]

Im 10 days into my First Cycle of 50mg ED of TBOL. The gas is impressive! I have to stay away from any flames in fear of risking a major assplosion

No other sides to mention. Still waiting for the strength and gains to come