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    Winny first cylce...Help

    I am 6'5 270lbs 21 years old.

    I am bulky and want to cut down...


    I am going to do oral Winny for my first steroid cycle. I am going to take 50 mg every other day for 6 weeks. I will take milk thistle before during and after my cycle to protect the liver. What I want to know is do I need PCT with Winny.

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    Yes you need PCT. I would not do that cycle if I were you. I dont have a big problem with people doing a cycle without test, I suggest it of course and would never personally do it but its not like it will kill you or something. Anyways, the big problem is you think winny will help you lose fat, this rumour has been circulating for years and is just false, also 50mg EOD, that wont do crap.

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    i'de say you need 50mg every day. and your doing tabs, not injecting, so your going to get a weaker effect to begin with.

    I'de suggest doing a Test only cycle for your first one. you'll get a feel for steroids and how your body recacts to them. plus you will get some real good gains.

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    from my research, winny's ability to "cut" fat stems from it's actions in the hypodermis, where yes, you can and do store fat...ridding this layer of some fat will help your skin to appear "tighter" and give you a leaner look, hence the common misconception...it is fairly anabolic, and can help you to pack on a small amount of lean tissue (potentially--diet and training should be closely examined as always), but as mentioned, you will likely be unsatisfied with your overall results. and 50mg for your first winny run is not too low IMO, but again, winny's rep as a miracle cutting drug has your mind setting you up for a huge letdown with that cycle...but that's how you learn what works best for you, trial and error...hell, when i was 21, there weren't any sites like this unfortunately, so that's how we learned back then...for sure with the milk thistle, i use it year round with flawless liver panels, and since i've never ran a cycle without test, maybe someone else can shed more light on proper PCT for a winny only run...

    alpha

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    What is your body fat% ?

    I would lean more to running ECA or Clen instead of winstrol. Winstrol is definately over rated for fat loss.

    What does your cardio and diet look like? I'm sure you would be able to drop alot of weight naturally without having to resort to aas.

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