before and after cycle....dofference

[DSM4Life]

I cant tell much of a difference. When i started i was at about 160 tops now i am 174 lbs. I really can't tell much of a difference, you tell me ..

First 3 are before's then afters.......

[DSM4Life]

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[DSM4Life]

Oh, BTW My routine wasn't what i normally do, mostly compound explosive lifts. I think that next cycle i am going to stick to splits , still with compounds but less focus on the olympic lifts.

[MeanMachine2000]

What were you running?

[DSM4Life]

lol..i was just about to post that, 500mg of Test-e with 20mg of nolva daily. My body can handle the stuff fine so my second cycle is going to be stacked. I am just going to wait out my PCT , nolva , clomid, clen. Get blood work done then move on from there.

[tman55]

def thicker in the after. pics are hard to see, but def thicker. good job bro.

[DSM4Life]

def thicker in the after. pics are hard to see, but def thicker. good job bro.

Hard to see ? Are you clicking on the thumb's to make them bigger ?



BTW I am catching up to you bro , give me few more years (25 now)

[DSM4Life]

anyone else can chim in with options

[S.P.G]

can't really tell from the pics bro.........

[TesticularFortitude]

i can definetly see some mass was added ... good job bro!! ,,

[tank2005]

ok guys sorry about that

[mmaximus25]

hi guys here are some pics ov me been on 1mg suss per weel and 40mg ov dbol blue harts a day gained 12kgs in 6 weeks .i am 23yo and 73 kgs work out 4 times a week diet could be better but gettin good results anyway.the t shirt pic is me last year at 58kgs been on my cycle 4 7 weeks now and been working out for 4 months.what do u think

Did you just steal his thread... thief
j/k

[tank2005]

sorry m8 dont no how to make my own thred any help please

[kaptainkeezy04]

hi guys here are some pics ov me been on 1mg suss per weel and 40mg ov dbol blue harts a day gained 12kgs in 6 weeks .i am 23yo and 73 kgs work out 4 times a week diet could be better but gettin good results anyway.the t shirt pic is me last year at 58kgs been on my cycle 4 7 weeks now and been working out for 4 months.what do u think

um please delete your post because its pretty rude to post pics of yourself on someone else's thread...after you've done that make your own thread and we will comment from there.

[kaptainkeezy04]

I cant tell much of a difference. When i started i was at about 160 tops now i am 174 lbs. I really can't tell much of a difference, you tell me ..

First 3 are before's then afters.......

In my opinion, you shouldnt have done a cycle only weighing 160 pounds and you shouldnt run another one weighing 174 pounds...just eat better, train harder, and get plenty of rest. you made some obvious gains but i would just finish out your pct and then stay natural for a long time.

[tank2005]

that is what i am planing on doing i only sterted a cycle to get the weight on me then i am going to go natural got 6 weeks left on my cycle

[mmaximus25]

sorry m8 dont no how to make my own thred any help please

When you click on Members pictures and you can see every ones threads... at the top there should be a tab/button that says "New Thread"

cheers

Tank I tried to PM you bro... no workie...
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[tank2005]

thanks mate i have my own therd now once again sorry for the trouble before

[heavyrotation92]

i can see a difference

[chest6]

Don't mean to flame or anything just bein honest..but to me all I can see is that you added mostly fat. You did make some gains in lbm, though. I don't think you were ready to cycle in the first place.

[DSM4Life]

I think i was taking in too much fat in my diet. Lots of PB , olive oil, almonds and such. Next time i am going to cut down on the fat and just eat cleaner. My calories where high as $hit so i expected some fat but you are right i think i put a little too much on.

[DSM4Life]

P.S

Also keep in mind that i am 5'6" . So when i say 174lbs thats a decent weight for my height. My bodies "natural" LBM (which was my starting point ) was 145lbs. So naturally i gained 15lbs (over time) then after cycle gained about another 15lbs. So my body is already 30lbs over what it is use to . . My goal weight is to get to 185ish and be able to maintain that with a low BF%.

BTW thanks for all comments.

[chest6]

So what were the macros on your diet?

[DSM4Life]

This is how i set my diet , 8 meals a day each around 413 ish calories

My main food where, steak, chicken, cottage cheese, egg whites, oatmeal, fish oven baked, almonds, olive oil, natty PB, small salads (for greens) brown rice.

Example of one of my days

wake up oatmeal blended with a protein shake

pre lunch 10 egg whites some PB

lunch 2 chicken breast with almonds

after lunch fish with more PB

pre gym brown rice some egg whites about 6

GYM

post gym shake with dex/malt 40p 80carbs

post post more brown rice / or patato with a steak

before bed cottage cheese , sometimes something with cottage cheese.

[chest6]

Looks pretty good to me, just make sure the steak is lean steak. How much cardio were you doing? I'm guessing now much. I know when I cut my cardio out like I have lately, I've gained some fat.

[DSM4Life]

I just about cut cardio out for the fact that it's really hard for me to gain. I knew I would take on some fat but I took on a little more then I would like. I am going for the "thick" look so a little fat is ok. I don't need to see my abs but I want to increase overall size and strength. I am going back to splits and will see what happens from there. On PCT ill be throwing in come clen, doing cardio, and dropping some fat intake but still eating around 8 meals a day.

[cj1capp]

see a good improvement in size

[mousetraps]

nice job buddy, glad to see there are more hairy dudes like me

[Hellmaskbanned]

You look like a natural. Make workout/diet plan work first.

[DSM4Life]

thanks for comments guys.

mousetraps

haha keeps me warm in the winter

[tretch187]

looks like a wasted cycle to me.

You look initially like you were nowhere near your natty potential

[davedizzle]

Great improvement! Keep it up bro

[DSM4Life]

Great improvement! Keep it up bro

Thanks bro

[T/AWS6]

You really need to get your diet on check... U gain a lot of mass, but it looks like u gained more fat than anything, I think u looked better before..... U need to cycle with winny next go round, and eat alot of clean protein.... I'm going to start my cycle of test/winny in 5 weeks....

[Andorious]

Don't mean to flame or anything just bein honest..but to me all I can see is that you added mostly fat. You did make some gains in lbm, though. I don't think you were ready to cycle in the first place.

agreed, something was missing when you were on cycle cause i dont see a whole lot of gains in terms of muscularity. yes you put on weight, but not wht i would consider quality. oh well, learn from your mistakes and get your diet and cardio in check before your next cycle!

[crash187ct]

your base to begin with, honestly looks horrible. how long have you been training? you couldn't have been at it for long, because you would have gained (i would hope so) alot more than that, before hand

[*Alex*]

You really need to get your diet on check... U gain a lot of mass, but it looks like u gained more fat than anything, I think u looked better before..... U need to cycle with winny next go round, and eat alot of clean protein.... I'm going to start my cycle of test/winny in 5 weeks....

this thread is 4 month old. the show is over.

[SwoleCat]

Guys, read the dates and don't bump archaic/cobweb posts to increase your post count.

I'll delete your posts and send you back to square one.

~SC~