Andriol

[IronZionLion]

Looking for some advice on my cycle of Andriol.

Firstly anyone with Andriol experience please share it with me, as it will be my first time using Andriol.

Also there is not much info on PCT for Andriol, so again please share your knowledge/experience.

Thanks!

[stewie]

well...
each capsule is 40mgs, a normal dose would range from 280-320mgs
which means 7 to 8 caps, imo andriol works great but is very expensive.
good thing its the only steroid that doesnt effect the liver.

[twiney]

well...
each capsule is 40mgs, a normal dose would range from 280-320mgs
which means 7 to 8 caps, imo andriol works great but is very expensive.
good thing its the only steroid that doesnt effect the liver.

Have you used Andriol? If so what results you get,thanks.

[stewie]

Have you used Andriol? If so what results you get,thanks.

yes i did
at 320mgs a day for 2 weeks (dbol for another 2 weeks)
good strength but very expensive and you should take 8-10 caps a day
spreading them out so you can take one each hour because of the short half life

[IronZionLion]

What is the length of a suggested Andriol cycle?

[stewie]

andriol alone would be a very bad cycle, its like dbol in gains and water retention
i would use it to kickstart a cycle with test

week 1-6 andriol 320 mgs ed
week 1-12 test e

[IronZionLion]

I am only going to be using orals!

[stewie]

I am only going to be using orals!

what are you stacking andriol with

[marcus300]

Andriol is a great drug if it works for you, ive used it many times on its own and to back a stack up, the dose is an idividual thing but normaly the dose would be high around 12-14 tabs a day, tablets should be taken every hour or 2 hours for the best effects,

There are no side effects only postives ones, its very underrated on this board but i feel that is because some dont know how to use it correctly,

Ive used it to cut and bulk and either way its a very good compound to have within a cycle, hardness/strenght/size are the results what i recieve from Andriol,

I would advice any serious BB to try it and see if it works for them because when it does the results are amazing without any major sides, it does work out to be expensive and i wouldnt advice to use it if its your first cycle.

[IronZionLion]

Thanks Marcus.

Why would you not advise it for a first cycle?

[marcus300]

Thanks Marcus.

Why would you not advise it for a first cycle?

Because for first cycle you should do a long ester test, will be alot easier to record the results and see how you respond to it, if this is your first cycle you should post your stats/training history/ and goals so we can advice the best we can, if your not willing to inject AAS are not really for you,

[IronZionLion]

Well I was just aiming for ease of use to be honest but one weekly injection is less hassle than trying to take 10 orals a day I guess. And healthier for my wallet!

[marcus300]

What are your stats?

[IronZionLion]

My cycle is not going to be until October so I have plenty of time. Been working really hard on the books recently for perfecting my diet and introducing some new technique.

[IronZionLion]

I am about 6 foot
160 lbs (so obviously bulking)
4 years proper lifting experience

[marcus300]

age pls

[IronZionLion]

22, had some few weeks away from the gym as I have had to sit accounting exams, however I am revolutionising my workout now!

[IronZionLion]

The other cycle I was considering before I learnt about Andriol was 1 – 10 weeks of Enan at 500mg/wk

[IronZionLion]

However this is only available to me in sachets of 3ml so a total of 750mg. Would I have to use the whole sachet? If so it would be too much for me. Thanks for help!

[clozr]

However this is only available to me in sachets of 3ml so a total of 750mg. Would I have to use the whole sachet? If so it would be too much for me. Thanks for help!

750 is too much for your first cycle. In fact 500 is probably more than you need. I saw great gains with 250/week with my first.

[IronZionLion]

Woul the sachet be ok though once one draw had been made?

[manc]

Woul the sachet be ok though once one draw had been made?

can you not get an empty 20 ml vile an fill it up. i think you can buy them

[IronZionLion]

Is this safe to do or will thet become contaminated? Also is it worth transferring to a vial seen as though it is such a small amount I doubt that the full amount will make it to the vial, and then there is the quantity lost when injecting!

[Duke of Earl]

The other cycle I was considering before I learnt about Andriol was 1 – 10 weeks of Enan at 500mg/wk

I didn't like andriol ( 320mg ED ) it didn't do alot for me & the research suggests that its' absorbtion rate is very unpredictable ( depends on factors like what food you're eating etc etc )
I'd say your original Test enan idea is far better, except i'd run it at 500mg EW for 12 weeks

However this is only available to me in sachets of 3ml so a total of 750mg. Would I have to use the whole sachet? If so it would be too much for me. Thanks for help!

you could get a 20ml vial & transfer all your sachets in one go ( ie transfer the full 3ml from every sachet into the 20ml vial ) - then you would end up with a vial full of test rather than a load of stupid sachets

btw I've heard a few questions raised about the sterility of the sachets - might be worth using a whatman in the transfer just to be sure

[BajanBastard]

Agreed, just get some 20ml vials and a few whatmans. Filter the gear into the vials.

[Tedzone]

Hello.
I do use andriol.
Here in France it's sold as PANTESTONE made by organon. It's the same caps at 40mg and 60/box. Price is 17.66 Euros at drug store. BUT BE AWARE IT NEED TO BE KEEP COOL ! As Organon said , as Vidal says (official french medecine codex) It must be stored between +2°C and +8°C So do not keep it at room temperature. In stores we do refrigerated it. So I doubt when you order by mail as it can take 10 days in postal service the product you get is still as strong as it should be....
off topic : in France you can get : NEBIDO : 1000mg/4ml testo. undecanoate like the andriol but high dosage and for injection.made by Schering
ANDROTARDYL : testo. enanth. 250mg/1ml :cost 10.20 Euro/amp. made by schering.

[Tedzone]

I forget to tell : cool storage is only for common andriol.
As you can see they are 2 products : Andriol Testocaps and Andriol. Both do contains 40mg test. undeca. BUT excipient are not the same : oleid oil and castor oil etc. So preservative are not the same. That may explain the temperature storage difference. you can check both here :http://www.andriol.com/Images/14_328.pdf and here :http://www.andriol.com/Images/14_232.pdf

french organon andriol use :http://www.organon.fr/authfiles/Images/51_91530.pdf that shows +2-+8 degre.
I dont know how long it can stay at room temperature. I just sent them an email . I'll post here their answer. Thanks.

[Duke of Earl]

I am about 6 foot
160 lbs (so obviously bulking)

Unless your bf is really low, at 6 foot & 160lbs & 22years old you should be able to gain natty still

btw I did andriol 320mgED for 8 weeks and it didn't really do alot for me ( a bit of water & acne ) - for me 400mg test e EW was waaay superior

[Tedzone]

RE hello.
Imback with news : The common andriol can stay no more than 3 month at room temperature after that it can be discarded.
Also they say using it for 4 weeks make testo level far less than at the beginning and after 8 weeks use it's almost useless. Those information are not for the use we made but a normal dose (120mg/day).
The new andriol testocaps are not available now (maybe somewhere else but i didnt find any country yet) but will use castor oil and thus the pills are ok to stock 3 years at 25°C

[hammerhead]

It's test in a pill. It's a lot like d-bol but isn't alkylated so it isn't liver-toxic. You'd take them just like d-bol and exect about the same results as you would with d-bol. They are a lot more expensive than d-bol which is why I think nobody uses them.
I thought it was better than d-bol in effect with almost no side-effects. I like it for a jump start to a cycle. It's too expensive for me to use in place of injectable test in a cycle.