i can't read women worth shit

[Sage]

my family is trying to set me up with this marriage material girl since they are tired of me introducing them to different types of trashy females i am bringing home for family gatherings and moms been hitting me up for some grand kids since she is getting worried i may end up like my uncle at 48 still not settled down and just chillin .

anyway, lets move on to the (intelligent) girl situation;

-i called her and she was at work. she said she was busy and call me back
-within a few minutes she calls me back and we talked for a brief period
-i asked her out but she had her weekend booked already and was not able to do anything with me (i am not used to that already, maybe she does not know what i look like and what i am all about so it was all good)

-after a week since our last phone conv. i called her back and left a VM
-afetr a week of me leaving the VM she calls me back in the evening and we talk for a while
-i set up a date with her and she was even asking me if i was free and etc
-next day i receive a call that she has to do some important family things and not able to go out with me.

- i made reservations to one of the hottest local lounges with my boy hooking up the VIP booth and also a cool place to eat.
- i am not used to all that rejection shit and don't really know if she is ditching me or had something to do

- i told her my last name and we have some mutual friend as well so not sure what the deal is, maybe i received a bad rep from someone.

-at this point i got my parents calling me daily to find out if i contacted that girl and all
-I don't want to look desparate and keep calling her also and its been like a week or so.
-she is rolling in some mad salary from what i hear she looks cute.

-Should i call her again and see if we can get something going or was the last excuse a rejection to me.?????

all i am thinking is how can she reject me not even seeing me, she wanted to send me pics, but i told her we'll do the blind date things since the feedback i was getting from my pops is that she is fine and i am sure she will not be dissapointed in my looks as well.

anyway, should i hit her up again or just let it go and not make a fool out of myself since she has ties to my friends along with my family as well.

[taiboxa]

let me give u a lil advice from tai..
im a desperate looser who will BLOW UP A CHICKS FONE if she doesnt call back

u see those chicks sitting in class to u w/ the fone CONSTANTLY going off every other minute and them pressing the QUIET BUTTON.. thats me calling them!

so uh.. if u wanna be successfull DONT DO WAT TAI DOES so dont call her except e3d and only call 3 times
LEAVE A VOICE MESSAGE THE FIRST TIME
then DNOT on the next 2 kuz that will look PATHETIC and i mean PATHETICIECK

[Phreak101]

Sage, dude RELAX!

As I have said in your other posts

"You're putting the pussy up on a pedestal"

You need to live your life and keep the same priorities you had BEFORE you met this girl. Tai, as ****ed up as his ninja grammar may be, is right. When you make a girl a huge priority in your life when she does not know your eal well, you come off as looking desperate. She should want to be a part of YOUR life. Girls want men that they have to work for, that they have to break into the schedules of, etc. They want to be around a guy who has his life together so they can hop on for the ride.

Best thing you can do is next time you're going out, call her and tell her where you'll be and tell her she should come out, if she can't, **** it, tell her to give you a call sometime when she can, and leave it at that!

Easy bro, easy!

[RA]

Try the brail method. Thats the way I like to read them.

[Sage]

i'm gonna hit her up one more time since my parents set that shit up for me just to make an effort so she see my cell# appear on her phone and i am not even gonna wait that long, 3/4 rings max per my last call. I don't play this BS games, bitch better get her priorities straight or i'll just leave it at that.

In a way i am sort of curious to see what she looks like, but whatever.

[stayinstacked]

To hell with it all, I wouldnt even give the bitch the satisfaction of knowing some dude is calling her again!! I hate women who play games like this, when the hell did everybody get so damn important that they reschedule social events like it's a ****ing job? That dumb ass bitch blew you off bro, plain and simple. If she didnt she would have called more to talk and show more interest. Go find new blood

[taiboxa]

To hell with it all, I wouldnt even give the bitch the satisfaction of knowing some dude is calling her again!! I hate women who play games like this, when the hell did everybody get so damn important that they reschedule social events like it's a ****ing job? That dumb ass bitch blew you off bro, plain and simple. If she didnt she would have called more to talk and show more interest. Go find new blood

NEW BLOOD! and HIT IT

[mavsluva]

Be persistent man. Mature women enjoy it when a man shows interest and shows it often. But be creative about it. For instance, if you're having problems with the phone/e-mail approach, then try sending her a date invitation to her work, such as a few movie tickets with a note that says, "I hope to see you there." The harder you try and the more creative that you are, the quicker you will win her over. You'll definitely begin to see more effort from her when she sees more effort from you.

[NOREGRETS]

Bro, You don't even know her so how can you make a fool of yourself. She seems like she playing games, so play back!!!! You'll get you way with her with persistence. And then You can laugh.

[mavsluva]

Bro, You don't even know her so how can you make a fool of yourself. She seems like she playing games, so play back!!!! You'll get you way with her with persistence. And then You can laugh.

Do you think Bill Gates became rich without taking a few risks?

If he has some reasons to be somewhat interested in this woman, then throwing himself out there a bit is definitely worth his while.

[taiboxa]

oh man i got so many great memories of getting SHOT DOWN OVER AND OVER by being persistant!... great memories.. that i'd rather not share

[stayinstacked]

I've been thinking about this one for a few minutes. I figured it out bro, it's kind of a turn off to her the way the whole thing feels set up. Maybe to her it feels like your calling her because other people want you to, like your mom. It may make a woman think that the guy cant make his own decisions? I think in this case their are preconcieved notions that your some sort of lonely guy who is desperate or insecure or something. You have to do something out of the ordinary in this scenario, just a phone call saying "hey, it's just me, call me back if you want to do something" isnt going to work. I'd ask her something off the wall like " I'm going to the gym, you wanna go with me?" I think it looks like your trying too hard, w/ the whole VIP lounge deal. Try just asking her to go for a walk w/ you, or go get some coffe, something simple. It's looking like too big of a deal to her, I guarantee it

[stayinstacked]

Do you think Bill Gates became rich without taking a few risks?

If he has some reasons to be somewhat interested in this woman, then throwing himself out there a bit is definitely worth his while.

Bill Gates also probably didnt lose his virginity until he was 40!!!

[kihop]

Sage, what nationality are you?
Just curious as I have a few freinds whose parents tried to arrange marriages for them because of tradition..

Anyways, don't get too serious with it. Have fun, it's a good learning expeience.

[mavsluva]

He's in a position to where he HAS to be the good guy here. He has to fullfill his parents desires, and potentially this woman's as well. With that being said, he may have to set aside his pride a bit on this one so everyone is happy at the end of the day.

Just trying to be supportive....

[NOREGRETS]

Do you think Bill Gates became rich without taking a few risks?

If he has some reasons to be somewhat interested in this woman, then throwing himself out there a bit is definitely worth his while.

Agreed, that's what I meant by play back.

[chest6]

Man Im not into the playing games and shit. If they play games..i aint playin back ill just look for sum1 else that doesnt play games

[IronFreakX]

Find out when her birthday is, then when shes walking back a dark alley, put ur hands over her mouth, tie her up take her pants off and start fvcking her, "Happy.....ahh...birth...uh uh....day to...ahhhh...you....happy....." then when ur done put ur clothes back on, untie her and say surprise!!!!

then she'll probably call the cops, tell them it was surprise sex and NOT rape and its all good.


or just fvck it and get better pussy? ??

[NOREGRETS]

Find out when her birthday is, then when shes walking back a dark alley, put ur hands over her mouth, tie her up take her pants off and start fvcking her, "Happy.....ahh...birth...uh uh....day to...ahhhh...you....happy....." then when ur done put ur clothes back on, untie her and say surprise!!!!

then she'll probably call the cops, tell them it was surprise sex and NOT rape and its all good.


or just fvck it and get better pussy? ??

My thoughs exactly.

[Mizfit]

let me give u a lil advice from tai..
im a desperate looser who will BLOW UP A CHICKS FONE if she doesnt call back

u see those chicks sitting in class to u w/ the fone CONSTANTLY going off every other minute and them pressing the QUIET BUTTON.. thats me calling them!

so uh.. if u wanna be successfull DONT DO WAT TAI DOES so dont call her except e3d and only call 3 times
LEAVE A VOICE MESSAGE THE FIRST TIME
then DNOT on the next 2 kuz that will look PATHETIC and i mean PATHETICIECK

sorry babe i just txt u to keep you at bay but your right.. it's not quiet though its end which sends your ass right to voice mail

[taiboxa]

sorry babe i just txt u to keep you at bay but your right.. it's not quiet though its end which sends your ass right to voice mail

u playa ><

[D3m3nt3d]

I'm pretty blunt - as I do not try to impress a girl, I am just myself....hasn't let me down yet ..

So something like this - "Are you ACTUALLY interested in doing something, or are you just trying to fvck with my head?"

...then again you have to keep in mind I was recently screwed over for the first time in my life, so I am holding a He-Man Womans Hater grudge right now

[AnabolicAndre]

Reading some of the resposes gives me a potential anyeurism.

Call her up and try something simple like, "Wanna go for some ice cream?"

Its not as complicated as a lounge, and ice cream is theh best way to break the ice cause even if she ugly, and cant talk or whatever you're still gonna be happy because you have a mouthful of ice cream.

[Mizfit]

u playa ><

Call me sometime

[D3m3nt3d]

Call me sometime

*calls Miz*

[Sage]

late replies, been workin some OT, so u know how it is

To hell with it all, I wouldnt even give the bitch the satisfaction of knowing some dude is calling her again!! I hate women who play games like this, when the hell did everybody get so damn important that they reschedule social events like it's a ****ing job? That dumb ass bitch blew you off bro, plain and simple. If she didnt she would have called more to talk and show more interest. Go find new blood

that was my impression immediately as well therefore i was not ganna tackle this further. obviously there was no interest on her side for some reason and maybe the idea our relatives settings this up gave her the wrong impression of me. i am not the type who is dessparate for a pussy by any means, but i am intreaged as to what went wrong or why i am not clicking with that female. I wish she could only see me in person and realize who was calling her and made her special for a brief moment, maybe than she'll get a clue.

I've been thinking about this one for a few minutes. I figured it out bro, it's kind of a turn off to her the way the whole thing feels set up. Maybe to her it feels like your calling her because other people want you to, like your mom. It may make a woman think that the guy cant make his own decisions? I think in this case their are preconcieved notions that your some sort of lonely guy who is desperate or insecure or something. You have to do something out of the ordinary in this scenario, just a phone call saying "hey, it's just me, call me back if you want to do something" isnt going to work. I'd ask her something off the wall like " I'm going to the gym, you wanna go with me?" I think it looks like your trying too hard, w/ the whole VIP lounge deal. Try just asking her to go for a walk w/ you, or go get some coffe, something simple. It's looking like too big of a deal to her, I guarantee it

Now here you go and change you mind on me bro. Well, to be truthfull in this scenerio i had absolutely nothing but clean intentions to meet this girl and was not pussy hunting by any means. Its rare, but per how my parents kept pushing her on me with her family background and all, it did make me soft and at some point i would like to have a stable relationship with someone therefore i was gonna approach this on the entirely different level with nottn but respect to her not expecting an easu lay either

i think am curesed when it come to women since what i want i can't have and what i don't want i get plenty of. I am sure some bros wouldn't mind being in my shoes, but in all honesty all this patying and hoeing around shit gets plain tired at some point where i feel like and am at that place already

the thing is, i haven't even seen her and maybe she is not even worth all that shit in the first place, but i am very curious now along with thinking way in the back of my mind possibly to proceed further and actually get her to come out and play, but i don't think i'll be contacting her anymore. I missed allot of chances in my life already, so one more is not gonna make a differenece just in case if things would have worked out if i called her again.

[Sage]

Sage, what nationality are you?
Just curious as I have a few freinds whose parents tried to arrange marriages for them because of tradition..

Anyways, don't get too serious with it. Have fun, it's a good learning expeience.

bro, nothing being arranged here at all, my parents simply can not stand women i bring home to major family events since most are just flaky stripper type clubbin hoes i chill with since sex is good, but thats all. In a way i see where they are coming from since i wouldn't have a serious relationship with any of them. My parents are strong on family values and i totally respect that and thats why i attempted to approach this girl which is coming from the same background.

[Sage]

He's in a position to where he HAS to be the good guy here. He has to fullfill his parents desires, and potentially this woman's as well. With that being said, he may have to set aside his pride a bit on this one so everyone is happy at the end of the day.

Just trying to be supportive....

damn, i believe you actually hit a jackpot on this one, her family informed her to expect a call from me and my site of the family still keeps pressing the issue. At the moment things are abviously not looking up, but i can't just tell my family she basically dissed me since this info. will be transffred over to her side of the family and next time i call she would somewhat be obligted to go out with me due to receiving some heat from her parents. f'ck that, i don't want to go on such a lame ass date.

i was thinking that maybe i should just remove my iron curtains of cockiness and possibly contact her again, but being persistent displays signs of desperation and even loneliness and in reality i am not by any means therefore not sure how to workaround this situation. I called her twice in the past two months already and up to date she still puzzles me what the deal is.

[mavsluva]

damn, i believe you actually hit a jackpot on this one, her family informed her to expect a call from me and my site of the family still keeps pressing the issue. At the moment things are abviously not looking up, but i can't just tell my family she basically dissed me since this info. will be transffred over to her side of the family and next time i call she would somewhat be obligted to go out with me due to receiving some heat from her parents. f'ck that, i don't want to go on such a lame ass date.

i was thinking that maybe i should just remove my iron curtains of cockiness and possibly contact her again, but being persistent displays signs of desperation and even loneliness and in reality i am not by any means therefore not sure how to workaround this situation. I called her twice in the past two months already and up to date she still puzzles me what the deal is.

Calling a female twice in the past two months is nothing. Now if you were calling twice a day, then that would be different. You've yet to even approach the "persistent" category, so I wouldn't sweat that one bit. Like I said in an earlier post, do something extremely creative. If she responds to it, then you've probably impressed her and she now has a reason to want to meet you. If not, then you'll know to close this book and move on to the next one. Take the plunge bro!

I wish you the best of luck!

[Sage]

Reading some of the resposes gives me a potential anyeurism.

Call her up and try something simple like, "Wanna go for some ice cream?"

Its not as complicated as a lounge, and ice cream is theh best way to break the ice cause even if she ugly, and cant talk or whatever you're still gonna be happy because you have a mouthful of ice cream.

i am down with that, but i was not trying to impress her by any means since lounge is something i do to just to hangout and relax regardless with either friends or when i am on a date.

i guess i could substitute that for miniature golfing or something similar to that since i don't eat ice cream, but thats not my main concern though.

starting this thread i can't decide rather to call her again since by nature if i can't read or understand something rather than wasting time figuring things out i move on to something else and its sort of aimed towards people the same way. i am not sure if she is playing games and if she does which appears to be, why give her the safisfaction.

[Sage]

Calling a female twice in the past two months is nothing. Now if you were calling twice a day, then that would be different. You've yet to even approach the "persistent" category, so I wouldn't sweat that one bit. Like I said in an earlier post, do something extremely creative. If she responds to it, then you've probably impressed her and she now has a reason to want to meet you. If not, then you'll know to close this book and move on to the next one. Take the plunge bro!

I wish you the best of luck!

first of all,
i appreciate your replie bro and based on that you have trigged something with your last sentance. the realization that came about is that i have always been going for the sure thing where a women either approaches me or through a friend telling me a broad likes me and etc. where as a result over time, developing such a persona where "how can she say no to me?".

I think taking a plundge would be a good thing for me personally on this one when it comes down to it since looks like i kept myself on the throne where instead it will allow me to reassess my perspective of thing when it comes to women and change my outlook on what i though i am all about, since no one is the universal type to all women. it was a pleasure talking to you bro and as a result i learned something about myslef in the process where i am not "the shit" that i make myself out to be to myself.

[mavsluva]

first of all,
i appreciate your replie bro and based on that you have trigged something with your last sentance. the realization that came about is that i have always been going for the sure thing where a women either approaches me or through a friend telling me a broad likes me and etc. where as a result over time, developing such a persona where "how can she say no to me?".

I think taking a plundge would be a good thing for me personally on this one when it comes down to it since looks like i kept myself on the throne where instead it will allow me to reassess my perspective of thing when it comes to women and change my outlook on what i though i am all about, since no one is the universal type to all women. it was a pleasure talking to you bro and as a result i learned something about myslef in the process where i am not "the shit" that i make myself out to be to myself.

Good deal. I've always been a firm believer in that a man's best education is a healthy dose of humiliation. Humiliation is not always a state of being "owned" or what not. It's seeing the good through the bad. If I asked you to remove the bitterness, jealousy, greed, lust and anger in your life, what would you have? My guess would be a pure, peaceful life.

Where do I get all of this might you be asking yourself?
























The Bible.

[Mizfit]

True but excuses r never good and the more time that goes by im sure interest on both sides diminishes

[Mike_Huck]

Dude you already made your move by calling and asking her out, maybe something came up for real, that she wasnt able to go out i understand that, but if that was the case she would it called you back to set up another date. that way i see she's either playing games or just playing the field, just wait and see what happens, if its meant to happen, it will happen, so if your handsome and in shape like you said, then dont worry, you have to think this way, no girl is better than me! so good luck men.

[Mike_Huck]

Bill Gates also probably didnt lose his virginity until he was 40!!!

That's right

[audis4]

Find out when her birthday is, then when shes walking back a dark alley, put ur hands over her mouth, tie her up take her pants off and start fvcking her, "Happy.....ahh...birth...uh uh....day to...ahhhh...you....happy....." then when ur done put ur clothes back on, untie her and say surprise!!!!

then she'll probably call the cops, tell them it was surprise sex and NOT rape and its all good.


or just fvck it and get better pussy? ??

HOLY FVCK, I'm laughing out loud as I type this
Iron, you like suprises don't you