I'm New... Really New.

[Zack-Valentine]

Hey guys, i'm 17, nearly 18 and I want to start taking Steroids, mainly for self defence. I'm not Puny or anything like that, but I want to get bigger (maybe an adult muscular figure) a.s.a.p. I have a few questions for you Pro's out there:

1. Injections or Tablets - I've been told that I can buy Injections (And they're better) for £65...

2. I am Fast, Really Fast, and I have great reaction times, will steriods effect this?

3. What side effects are most likely to take place.


Thanks a lot guys. Zack

[stupidhippo]

hu hu hu ... I cant even begin to tell u what is wrong with ur post.... damn dude..
1) U ARE TOO YOUNG
2) Your foundation is inadequate
3) Your reasons are all wrong..
ETC..........

[mds]

Start Eating and lifting heavy . At your age you will grow alot without AAS

[Zack-Valentine]

I've tried, but i've got some crazy Metabolism. It's hard to gain weight, and the Gym desn't seem to be helping. I'm just wondering what to Ask for (safe ones) and ons that would help get what I need.

[Dangerdan]

Hey, didn't your arms explode? Wrong Valentino I guess.

[Surrender]

Hey guys, i'm 17, nearly 18 and I want to start taking Steroids, mainly for self defence. I'm not Puny or anything like that, but I want to get bigger (maybe an adult muscular figure) a.s.a.p. I have a few questions for you Pro's out there:

1. Injections or Tablets - I've been told that I can buy Injections (And they're better) for £65...

2. I am Fast, Really Fast, and I have great reaction times, will steriods effect this?

3. What side effects are most likely to take place.


Thanks a lot guys. Zack

Think before you act. Research is your best friend. Try it you might save your own life.

[Hellmaskbanned]

Wanting to kick ass and look good.....HAHAHAHAHAH. Practice boxing or martial arts. I know tons of MMA fighters that are weak (weightlifting wise) and are not built well at all that can beat most up 99.9% on this entire board including me. Well them being a 9th degree black belt , and practicing martial arts for 30+ years helps...lol.

Looks to me like the weak little nerd wants to get big to stop the bullys from picking on him....Go workout lazy.

[mkrulic]

18 is too young. you'll screw up your hormones and you'll get very little out of it.

[Zack-Valentine]

You guys really don't wanna' tell me what Steroids I should get do you?

I don't mean Big Time Steroids... So I look like some Goofed up Incredible Hulk... I mean ones that'll get me maybe double my size.

[Phreak101]

Hey guys, i'm 17, nearly 18 and I want to start taking Steroids, mainly for self defence. I'm not Puny or anything like that, but I want to get bigger (maybe an adult muscular figure) a.s.a.p. I have a few questions for you Pro's out there:

1. Injections or Tablets - I've been told that I can buy Injections (And they're better) for £65...

2. I am Fast, Really Fast, and I have great reaction times, will steriods effect this?

3. What side effects are most likely to take place.


Thanks a lot guys. Zack

You are entirely too young to be doing steroids. I know this is not what you want to here, but look at it from this perspective. Your body is going to keep growing at LEAST another 3 years, and you also have the highest test levels you will have for the rest of your life. Steroids are going to severly disrupt your natural testosterone production, and if that tesosterone production does not recover properly, you WILL be ****ed up the rest of your life. That could include sterility, abnormal growth plates, low natty test levels (making you tired and unhorny ALL the time), etc.

If you are serious about bodybuilding and want to really take it seriously, you should practice disciplining your diet and training naturally for the next 3 years and then you'll be at peak performance naturally, and your body will be totally PRIMED for steroids. Doing them prematurely without building yuorself up to your natural peak first will only make the steroids less effective, AND make your gains much harder to keep.

So all in all, wait. Take it from me and a lot of guys on this board...jumping the gun on steroids can lead to a lot of bad side effects down the road. Be smart, do a TON of research (I researched for a year and half before I touched them), get your diet and exercise in check, and wait until you're 21. trust me, you'll be very happy you did later on in life.

[SMAN12b]

I've tried, but i've got some crazy Metabolism. It's hard to gain weight, and the Gym desn't seem to be helping. I'm just wondering what to Ask for (safe ones) and ons that would help get what I need.

First WELCOME TO AR

Second -- Metabolism is the NUMBER ONE bullshit excuse ever given for not gaining weight!!!

EVERY single person on the planet's body works exactly the same way PERIOD

Calories in versus Calories Expended There is NO magic to metablolism


THIRD you are too young to be registered on this board and will be suspended until youa re 18, BUT stick around and LEARN

AAS is NOT a magic pill. If you do not know how to gain weight without using AAS, then you will NOT gain weight with AAS!!!

Being tough has nothing to do with size and I could kick the shit out of many Larger bodybuilders than what I am so do'nt even think that steroids make you tough......they don't

[mds]

Steroids are steroids.None will double your size. The key too growing is eating right. Go to the diet section and look for bulking diets.

[Zack-Valentine]

Right, so I guess the answer is "Take None, Zack". Right, So What do I do? Gym and Eat...? Is there any tablets you can take to alter your Metabolism? Mine's High, constantly.

[Phreak101]

You guys really don't wanna' tell me what Steroids I should get do you?

I don't mean Big Time Steroids... So I look like some Goofed up Incredible Hulk... I mean ones that'll get me maybe double my size.

Telling you what steroids to use would be like telling a 16 year old who has never touched alcohol to slam everclear to get drunk. Dangerous, dangerous, DANGEROUS!

Are you ready to consume 3-400 grams of protein a DAY? Are your ready to workout for at least 2 hours a day? Are you prepared to do cardio 45-60 mins a day? How long have you been lifting weights? Do you know how to do a post cycle therapy correctly? Do you know which blends to mix? Do you know how to pretct your liver and kindeys? Do you know how to prevent gettng BITCH TITS? Do you know what HCG is? Do you know what deca dick is?

You need to know all this stuff before you make the leap bro, you don't wanna end up a skinny kid with a gut, raisin sized balls, and big breasts, which is what most inexperienced users end up looking like when they stop using!

[Hellmaskbanned]

No. It's definatley not that... I'll tell you what it is. I've never been jumped, NEVER had a fight... EVER. Now, how do I know that when 3 asian guys come to kick me in, I can stand a chance.... I don't... Do I.

Good let them go kung fu on your ass.
But really what the hell is wrong with you??? Steroids come on!
Learn how to box or some form of martial arts.

It's quite a simple logic really....
If you wanna get faster....RUN
If you wanna bench press more ....Bench Press
If you wanna be a better fighter....Learn how to box/box

Not rocket science.

[mkrulic]

No. It's definatley not that... I'll tell you what it is. I've never been jumped, NEVER had a fight... EVER. Now, how do I know that when 3 asian guys come to kick me in, I can stand a chance.... I don't... Do I.

why are you going to be attacked by asians? i've never met a violent asian person. I think the odds are aginst this.

[Phreak101]

Right, so I guess the answer is "Take None, Zack". Right, So What do I do? Gym and Eat...? Is there any tablets you can take to alter your Metabolism? Mine's High, constantly.

It's not the size of the guy dude, its the size of the fight IN the guy. I've been boxing for 4 years, Ive seen middleweights beat the hell out of heavyweights. You wanna fight? Sign up for a muay thai class and learn how to fight, don't think looking like a meathead will prevent you from getting your ass handed to you.

You'll end up like the guy on here that wondered why he got his ass kicked waiting for his Sustanon to kick in during a fight!

[gibsonnova74]

i too have a very fast metabolism, i was tall and skinny for most of my life. when i decided i wanted to change my apperance i started researching, and going to the gym. i talked to alot of the guys in the gym, read alot of lifiting and bodybuilding articles. basically, i changed my diet from eating 3 times a day to eating 6 times a day and taking protein everyday. started working out about 5 times a week, now a days its like 4 time a week. when i graduated from high school i weighed about 175 pounds and was 6' 3". now after lifting and eating properly for 9 years iam 6' 3" and 255 pounds with my body fat % about 18%. my point is that if you want to change bad enough, put the time and effort into it and it will happen! like everyone else said dont rush into steriods! wait some years and start working out hard now! good luck bro!

[neverenuff21]

First WELCOME TO AR

Second -- Metabolism is the NUMBER ONE bullshit excuse ever given for not gaining weight!!!

EVERY single person on the planet's body works exactly the same way PERIOD

Calories in versus Calories Expended There is NO magic to metablolism


THIRD you are too young to be registered on this board and will be suspended until youa re 18, BUT stick around and LEARN

AAS is NOT a magic pill. If you do not know how to gain weight without using AAS, then you will NOT gain weight with AAS!!!

Being tough has nothing to do with size and I could kick the shit out of many Larger bodybuilders than what I am so do'nt even think that steroids make you tough......they don't

Sorry SMAN, got lots of respect for you and your opinions, but I totally disagree with this one.

I agree, it is the most common excuse for hardgainers, which your basically saying there aren't any of those. (and trust me, I trained for 6 years before touching AAS) I know what it means. Granted, I became a nutitionist/trainer in those six years and that made HUGE improvement.

But even then, I had a hard time keeping weight. If I slightly faulted from my diet I would lose a ton of pounds. I maintain(ed) less than 5% BF with absolutely NO cardio. Does your body "work that way?"

That would imply that my girlfriends mesomorphic body type reacts to calories the same way as mine.

Yes I agree, kids everything is wrong. knowledge/age/reasons/experience. But I do think he COULD run in to these problems later even when he is prepared.

Zack, bro, hormones are nothing to be taken lightly, you will deal with the effects of the sauce for the rest of your life. Your body isnt even finished growing yet. You've got more natty GH floating around than any of us!!

Sorry bro, but they are all right. Your not old enough, start training, get your diet down, and learn proper lifting techniques. (nurture the obsession) And make an educated decision when your say...23.

P.s. I started traing at 165 lbs 6'3"!!! I got to 196lbs before I ever even touched juice. trust me, you can grow.

[Hellmaskbanned]

METABOLISM IS THE BIGGEST EXCUSE FOR BEING A GIRLY MAN.

But there are ppl gifted with better genetics and can gain more , hold more weight, and maintain. I'm sure out of the 100% who bitch about metabolism there is a 2% were it does hold them back even when they eat and train correct....

[davedizzle]

Dude, I once thought putting on weight was hard.
You just need to be doing the rights things, and you'll grow, especially at your age.

You need calories.
WHat really stacked bulk on me was powdered oats in a shake. It's cheap and very effective.. One downside is your farts will smell beyond evil. But you'll gain weight, no doubt.

[neverenuff21]

METABOLISM IS THE BIGGEST EXCUSE FOR BEING A GIRLY MAN.

But there are ppl gifted with better genetics and can gain more , hold more weight, and maintain. I'm sure out of the 100% who bitch about metabolism there is a 2% were it does hold them back even when they eat and train correct....

Thats what people who've never had one before say. Wanna compare Natty T3 levels. Ive had mine tested. Correct me if I'm wrong but, T3 is catobolic in nature?

[Hellmaskbanned]

Thats what people who've never had one before say. Wanna compare Natty T3 levels. Ive had mine tested. Correct me if I'm wrong but, T3 is catobolic in nature?

Did you read my entire post. I said almost 100% complain that there metab is the reason there not gaining, not taking into account there diet, rest, training could be the cause. I said there is a few , VERY few who do things correct that do have problems still from gaining.

[NewyorkGiant]

You guys really don't wanna' tell me what Steroids I should get do you?

I don't mean Big Time Steroids... So I look like some Goofed up Incredible Hulk... I mean ones that'll get me maybe double my size.

[neverenuff21]

I love you hellmask

[SMAN12b]

Sorry SMAN, got lots of respect for you and your opinions, but I totally disagree with this one.I agree, it is the most common excuse for hardgainers, which your basically saying there aren't any of those. (and trust me, I trained for 6 years before touching AAS) I know what it means. Granted, I became a nutitionist/trainer in those six years and that made HUGE improvement.

But even then, I had a hard time keeping weight. If I slightly faulted from my diet I would lose a ton of pounds. I maintain(ed) less than 5% BF with absolutely NO cardio. Does your body "work that way?"

That would imply that my girlfriends mesomorphic body type reacts to calories the same way as mine.

Yes I agree, kids everything is wrong. knowledge/age/reasons/experience. But I do think he COULD run in to these problems later even when he is prepared.

Zack, bro, hormones are nothing to be taken lightly, you will deal with the effects of the sauce for the rest of your life. Your body isnt even finished growing yet. You've got more natty GH floating around than any of us!!

Sorry bro, but they are all right. Your not old enough, start training, get your diet down, and learn proper lifting techniques. (nurture the obsession) And make an educated decision when your say...23.

P.s. I started traing at 165 lbs 6'3"!!! I got to 196lbs before I ever even touched juice. trust me, you can grow.

Sorry to generalize it nevernuff, but I just get sooooo tired of hearing that excuse form people who have NO CLUE how to eat properly. I know that there are TRUE hardgainers and I can respect that, BUT I very much doubt that this kid has a clue about proper diet!!

[frank12391]

Zac, Zac, Zac!! Your prob thinkin no one here wants to give you their time or that you some how didn't come across cool enough but the truth is that people here actually give a shit and are desperate to talk you out of the bigest mistake of your life! It's the truth, Zac. Really mate, theres a lot of stuff you gotta know before you put these things in your body. It,s not easy even for the pros, thats why they are here and these people have had years of experience. It.s not the age of your brain but the age of your body. It aint ready yet. Ok

[neverenuff21]

Right, right SMAN!! Truer words were never spoke!!

[Hellmaskbanned]

I love you hellmask

[neverenuff21]

Thats my man!!!

[mkrulic]

3 body types, ectomorph, endomorph, and mesomorph. not one body type but three. I have no research to support this but I am sure ectomorphs have a higher metabolism. they can eat more w/o gaining weight. that I have seen w/ my own eyes. if they are not excersizing how do you all explain this? the only explanation I have is a higher metabolism

[lifta_00]

hey man im a hard gainer too, but i just ate ate ate and trained and i put on mucle quick.. aas wont do anything if the eating isn't there

[Hellmaskbanned]

Who's not a hard gainer?


I know gaining muscle is not easy for me?
Always see people saying there hardgainers....Who's an easy gainer.....!

[SMAN12b]

3 body types, ectomorph, endomorph, and mesomorph. not one body type but three. I have no research to support this but I am sure ectomorphs have a higher metabolism. they can eat more w/o gaining weight. that I have seen w/ my own eyes. if they are not excersizing how do you all explain this? the only explanation I have is a higher metabolism

Basically it doesn't matter... keep in mind i am being very general here cause i dont' feel like typing a book

Claories IN verses Calories Expended.

If your body type burns more than obviously you need to eat more to compensate and grow
If your body type burns less then you have to adjsut accordingly with diet and cardio....
Boo Hoo, you have to eat more WAHHHHHHH
Boo Hoo you have to do more cardio...WAHHHHHH

Either you do what it takes or you dont' reach your goals, with or without AAS

No one says its easy, but that is the only way to do it correctly

[V_Vandetta]

3 body types, ectomorph, endomorph, and mesomorph. not one body type but three. I have no research to support this but I am sure ectomorphs have a higher metabolism. they can eat more w/o gaining weight. that I have seen w/ my own eyes. if they are not excersizing how do you all explain this? the only explanation I have is a higher metabolism

just to add just becasue you have one primary gentic profile ....... you can still carry trats or another thus making it hard to pinpoint a dirrect link to one trat

[auslifta]

zac if your still on here take the advice.this board is here for your help. check out diet and technique sections.
by the way its the big guys who have fights picked with them.a group of guys will think they are tuff for taking down a big man even when theres 5 of them(or three asians )
happy lifting. id suggest waiting till 23.lift and eat and rest heaps till then