Started PROP/TREN A/VAR

[Taurus]

Jus took my first shot of my third cycle. 28yrs, 6'1, 205lbs, 10%bf.

1-11 prop @ 150mg eod
1-9 tren ace @ 150mg eod
6-11 var @ 75mg ed
1-15 l-dex @ .25mg ed
1-15 B-6 @ 150mg ed
12-15 nolv
12-15 clomid

Its my first time using tren ace, so i will see how it goes. have used prop and var before. first shot was smooth and pain free, first time i have shot 3cc's in one muscle...god it took forever!

i have never had any sides from any of my previous compounds (touch wood), prop, tbol, var, dbol. i think i should be fine with the tren but if not, i have masteron on hand to switch if the sides become too much. lookin to put on some lean muscle.

workout 5 day split, with 30-40 mins cardio post workout. will keep u guys informed.

mon: chest/cardio
tues: back/cardio
wed: shoulders/cardio
thur: arms/cardio
fri: legs.
sat: rest
sun: rest

[pavlenko]

looks very nice, good luck brotha

[Pac8541]

Please keep this thread updated with your progress. This is about the exact same cycle I'm considering next although I may nix the var since the stuff is so damned expensive. I found a product thats masteron/tren a both at 100mg/ml that I may run instead. Looks good though, best of luck to ya.

[Taurus]

did my first shot yesterday: 1.5cc's prop + 1.5cc's tren in right quad (i only shoot my quads). its been 24hrs and there is not much pain. i remember my last cycle i used prop and the first few shots i couldnt move my legs (i am using the same brand gear...same batch). could it be that mixing with the tren has lessened the pain? or is it that my glutes are use to the injections from the last cycle (which was 4 months ago)?

[Taurus]

just did my second shot. half way through, the needle moved, and i could feel some pressure in my lungs. i knew straight away what it was cuz i have read other people's experience on here. i pulled out the needle, switched over, and injected the rest again. is that what i should do? or can i jus pul the needle back a bit and keep injecting?

i also read that tren messes with the thyroid... should i be concerned about this? can i take anything to help this?

[Taurus]

did my third injection today. had a few minor mishaps. i drew the prop out fine, but as i was pushing air into the vial of tren, i accidentaly ended up pushing the prop into the tren. i had to re-draw again. and to top it off, i shot into my right quad twice cuz both times i drew blood into the syringe when aspirating. so i switched over to my left quad and it went in fine; but the problem is i shot into my left quad just 2 days ago (i only do quad shots and alternate quads. i shoot eod). my questions are:

1) the fact that i shot the prop into the vial of tren doesnt affect the gear in that bottle for future use does it? (apart from not knowing what mix of tren/prop will be withdrawn from the vial for each future shots)?

2) shooting into the same muscle in the span of 3 days doesnt have any negative effects does it? like absorption of oil or something?

these may sound like dumb questions but i would like to know. thanks.

[duramaxedge]

your shooting eod with the tren a? let me know how the sides are..

[duramaxedge]

in the future.. if you choose to fill your vials with air.. do it to both vials before you pull gear into your syringe.. this will prevent the mishaps.. also make sure your changing the pin before injecting.

[Alpha-Male]

as for the thyroid issues, 25mcg t3/day should suffice...and yeah, i'm gonna watch this thread for the "omfg, i woke up this morning in a pond" post cycle's a killer ripper though, watch ur diet, good luck...

alpha

[Taurus]

as for the thyroid issues, 25mcg t3/day should suffice...and yeah, i'm gonna watch this thread for the "omfg, i woke up this morning in a pond" post cycle's a killer ripper though, watch ur diet, good luck...

alpha

the prop alone in my last cycle had me sweating like a madman. so i'm used to it. i just lay down some blankets underneath me and keep removing them when they get drenched. what did u mean by "post cycle's a ripper"?

i always change the pin before injectiing. i've now figured out a way of not makin the same mistake again. i jus wanna know if my vial of tren is still good to use?

[Alpha-Male]

oh no buddy, not the prop, the friggin' tren, LOL. dude, maybe you'll get em, maybe you wont...and i meant it's a good cutter (diet/cardio necessary)...

[MAXIMA5]

Why, if I may ask, arent you shooting ED?
also, I wouldnt inject air into a fresh vial until you've drawn from it once. You'll create too much pressure and could pop the stopper off.

[Pac8541]

i jus wanna know if my vial of tren is still good to use?

Your tren will still be good to use, you just might end up with a little more prop eod until that vial is gone. Shouldn't be anything you need to be overly worried about. Just be careful and take your time, think about every step before you do them. Not trying to be condescending, just a reminder. I was clearing the air out of the pin after drawing it out (and before replacing the pin with a fresh one) and pulled the plunger right out of the barrel. Dumped an entire day's worth all over my hand. Didn't make a huge difference in the big picture but it screwed up my calculated amount over the course of the whole cycle and pissed me off. All that from not paying enough attention too early in the morning.

Can't wait to try this cycle out though. I'm sure you're gonna be happy with the results as long as you apply yourself. Keep up the good work and find some more injection sites fer cryin' out loud!!

[sundancekid]

I thought Tren A had to be shot ED?

[MAXIMA5]

I thought Tren A had to be shot ED?

You're right. It should. So does prop. This cycle has "bad sides" written all over it.

[Alpha-Male]

well, it's not written anywhere that prop HAS to be injected every day, i mean, yeah, more stable blood levels yada yada yada, but i promise you, the real world differences here are neglible...same for trenA

btw, before you go there, ive done both ways, 13 years worth, and i'm telling you, NEGLIBLE. eod shots are fine...

[sundancekid]

well, it's not written anywhere that prop HAS to be injected every day, i mean, yeah, more stable blood levels yada yada yada, but i promise you, the real world differences here are neglible...same for trenA

btw, before you go there, ive done both ways, 13 years worth, and i'm telling you, NEGLIBLE. eod shots are fine...

[Taurus]

You're right. It should. So does prop. This cycle has "bad sides" written all over it.

i've done prop eod before, kept 15lbs and had no sides. there are many people who do both compounds eod, and have no worse side effects than compared with doin it ed.

[Alpha-Male]

ah ha, you got me, NEGLIGIBLE...there, that better mr. 12-poster

[MAXIMA5]

i've done prop eod before, kept 15lbs and had no sides. there are many people who do both compounds eod, and have no worse side effects than compared with doin it ed.

But MOST experience more sides with EOD shots.
You wouldnt take your anavar every other day, would you? Of course not, because you arent afraid of popping pills.
The hardest part of running tren/prop properly is dealing with daily injections and rotating sites with workouts.
You need to overcome any fear you may have and find some more sites so you can shoot ED.
Tris/Bis/Delts are a piece of cake after the first shot.

[Alpha-Male]

eh, maybe with the tren...

[Alpha-Male]

now youre comparing prop with and oral? hmm...let him try both, see if he notices a difference...

[MAXIMA5]

I'm comparing the half life of tren to the half live of a days dose of an oral

Tren Acetate should be shot EVERY DAY. PERIOD. Why cut corners?

[Alpha-Male]

why do you say it's cutting corners? i'll match my gains from eod shots to anyone going ed...PERIOD...technically, some say to spread your pill doses out throughout the day, others say no, one single dose will do it...hell, why not shoot the prop every 6 hours, why cut corners...why not hook the shit up to an iv...i mean, i understand the basic scientific principle behind it, but in terms of actualized gains, you won't see the difference...as for sides, again, try it eod first, and if you can't manage the sides (puta) then go ed...

[fLgAtOr]

now youre comparing prop with and oral? hmm...let him try both, see if he notices a difference...

Let him. I tried both. And I noticed a difference. So to each his own.


Anyways, i only saw this mentioned once but:

YOU CAN"T KEEP SHOOTING QUADS!!!!!

Gotta start spot injecting bud...You dropped 3mls into your right quad TWICE in 48 hours. Holy shit.

[Taurus]

Let him. I tried both. And I noticed a difference. So to each his own.


Anyways, i only saw this mentioned once but:

YOU CAN"T KEEP SHOOTING QUADS!!!!!

Gotta start spot injecting bud...You dropped 3mls into your right quad TWICE in 48 hours. Holy shit.

i know. i've shot my delts and arms before, and i couldnt move em. the prop was just too much pain. i couldnt workout for a week. the quads are the only place i can take it. i do my glute every once in a while, but its just so awkward...

in terms of ed shots. like i said, i did prop eod and had no sides with good gains. if the sides of tren are not tolerable, i have no choice but to switch to ed shots. i work 12 hrs a day, 6 days a week... trust me, its hard to do it every day.... but i'm trying.

[ghostRidedawhip707]

You need to switch up the your shots or you will have alot of scar tissue and abscess. It's not the deal with ed or eod shots it is the site where you inject. YOu need to start spot injecting like the others said or you shouldn't be doing it.

[ghoul000]

Tren A is fine injecting eod. Its got a life of 2-3 days. I'm injecting 100mg eod with no sides that I notice. Screw injecting prop every day. Im injecting eod and can bairly move as it is...Tried my bi for the first time yesterday...pains enough to make me switch to cyp. or eth. considering I cant move my arm.

[fLgAtOr]

You need to switch up the your shots or you will have alot of scar tissue and abscess. It's not the deal with ed or eod shots it is the site where you inject. YOu need to start spot injecting like the others said or you shouldn't be doing it.

Thank you.

Gotta man up dude, or you are going to end up with a very bad infection. You CANNOT keep hitting the same site like that.

BTW, another advantage of shooting ED is you don't have to stick 3mls of oil in one site.

[MAXIMA5]

Thank you.

Gotta man up dude, or you are going to end up with a very bad infection. You CANNOT keep hitting the same site like that.

BTW, another advantage of shooting ED is you don't have to stick 3mls of oil in one site.

Finally, someone with some common sense joins the thread.

If you two, (Taurus, Alpha) refuse to shoot ED and use different sites, maybe you should stick to Enathate and a single oral. And I can also guarantee my gains from ED injections will blow away the average joe who is afraid and shoots EOD.

You talk a big talk about your gains from EOD, but you have nothing to compare it to since you have never run the two compounds correctly. If you want to shoot EOD, that/s fine, but don't keep insisiting it's the right way because it's not-and someone who doesn;t know any better will read this thread some day and you've just led them astray.

[MAXIMA5]

Tren A is fine injecting eod. Its got a life of 2-3 days. I'm injecting 100mg eod with no sides that I notice. Screw injecting prop every day. Im injecting eod and can bairly move as it is...Tried my bi for the first time yesterday...pains enough to make me switch to cyp. or eth. considering I cant move my arm.

Yeah yeah,

it hurts, I know. The pain goes away if you can push through it for a couple weeks. Trust me. The it's all down hill. The first 4 weeks if an ED Prop/tren cycle separates the men from the boys.

[Taurus]

bro,ur acting as if we are the only two people to have run this eod! look on this board, most people run it eod. before i started this cycle, i put it up for critique, and nobody told me to run it everyday.

i dont shoot eod because i'm scared of injections or rotating injection sites. i dont know any other dude scared of needles and shooting eod... i do eod injections cuz i have run prop before like this, i had no sides and good gains.

now, if the tren gives me problems, i'll switch to ed. i have no problem with that.

i'm doing a pec injection tomorro, i have 23g 1" needles. my pecs are pretty thick...is it ok to put the needle all the way thru? i was lookin on ************** dot com and some of them have it all the way in, and some have it half way in?

[MAXIMA5]

Let me know how the pec injection goes. That's the only site I havent hit yet (besides cavs of course).

and by the way, I was mainly referring to tren ED. Since I'm running tren ED, I just shoot the prop with it in the same barrel. Now both are ED. Piece of cake after all your sites adjust to the pain the first few weeks.

[Pac8541]

Maxima, go for the pecs dude. Other than glutes, by far the most pain free site I've got.

[aadrenaline]

can i drink winny?

ive heard if you take prop and an eye dropper you can put it in your eye its painfree and works wonders.


LMAO sorry

[Taurus]

bump for pec injection. 1" needle all the way in pec or only half way?

[fLgAtOr]

I never go allll the way in. I always leave a little out.

IMO, you will feel your way around, once youre in there. You'll figure it out...I'm just giving you my personal opinion.

[limpdin]

You guys need to try getting your gear made with ethyl oleate as the carrier. The injections are so painless you'll wonder if your gear is real! Another bonus is that the concentration of prop. (or tren. A, whatever) can be increased to 150 mg/ml (some say 200mg/ml) and still be painless.

Here is a thread I found in the ANABOLIC STEROIDS LABORATORY if you want to see more.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=272834

[ghoul000]

My prop is made with Ethyl oleate, and dosed at 200. Injections are painless, but you still get the aftermath of the prop.

[Alpha-Male]

Finally, someone with some common sense joins the thread.

If you two, (Taurus, Alpha) refuse to shoot ED and use different sites, maybe you should stick to Enathate and a single oral. And I can also guarantee my gains from ED injections will blow away the average joe who is afraid and shoots EOD.

You talk a big talk about your gains from EOD, but you have nothing to compare it to since you have never run the two compounds correctly. If you want to shoot EOD, that/s fine, but don't keep insisiting it's the right way because it's not-and someone who doesn;t know any better will read this thread some day and you've just led them astray.

why u gotta call people out? actually, i said that i've ran it both ways, and that's why i'm standing by my comments. you apparently haven't tried it both ways, and yet you're "guaranteeing" your results will "blow" away...don't get cocky just cuz you hang around here and post alot, alot of crap you read from other people mind you...how long you been in the game bro? lemme tell ya, 13 years here, and i promise you, this everyday necessity shit wasnt around back in the day, and people were getting by JUST fine...you have your OPINION and i have mine, and there are people on both sides of the fence...i have never given anyone shit advice and led them astray, because in instances like these, i NEVER insist one way is better than the other...get off your high horse man...