Help, advice or critique for 1st cycle.

[Jojoe]

I'm trying to pick between these 2 cycles
1st:
Week 1 to 13: 10mg Nolvadex daily
Week 1 to 10: 400mg of EQ weekly
Week 1 to 10: 500mg TEST weekly
wk 13 - 40mg nolva+ 100mg clomid daily
wk 14 - 30mg nolva+ 50mg clomid daily
wk 15 - 20mg nolva+ 50mg clomid daily
or 2nd:
Wks 1-12 300mg/w Test Enanthate
Wks 1-10 200mg/w deca
Wks 4-12 35-40mg/d of VAR

with 400 i.u. HCG every five days wks 1-12 (with a 2000iu shot for the last one) and Nolvadex 40mg/d Wks 11-16, Clomid 100mg/d Wks 12-16 for my PCT.

Any ADvice or suggestions accepted. I wanna get stronger and a more harder defiined look. I also play semi-pro football and am a fire fighter so they should help to right? Thanks for everything guys

[likebeckam22]

what are your stats, ie size? The 2nd one is more of a bulking cycle, with a nice cutter at the end. 1st cycles nice 2 but the EQ take forever to kick in, but will allow you to keep most of your gains. Dont use Nolv unless you have 2. Its a waste!!! Is this your first cycle. Do you work out often, hows your diet?

[Bill Bellamy]

No need to automatically start using Nolvadex if it is your first cycle(before PCT) wait and see how your body reacts than decide if you need to add the Nolva to the cycle

[testosterona]

id go w/ test/eq. that's a nice first cycle. no need to run 3 things at once for your first cycle imo. good luck dude

test

[Mrbaseball]

I would only run one compound for a first cycle. If you react badly to a compound and your stacking which one is it? Just like mentioned above I wouldnt run the Nolva during the cycle unless you get signs of gyno, so keep it on hand. My .02 Good Luck!

[Jojoe]

So what should I do for my PCT just stick to Clomid?

[SuperLift]

So what should I do for my PCT just stick to Clomid?

Run the nolva PCT, everyone else is just saying dont run it for weeks 1-10 as it may not be necessary. Yes, definitely run it PCT.

Personally, Id run #1 for my first. For your next cycle you can try something like:

500mg Test
400mg Deca

[Jojoe]

Sorry bout that here sre some stats; 34 y/o; 5'10'' 250lbs; Workout bout 4 days a week, bout 15-30 min or cardio prior to working out and run 5 miles once a week. Only trouble is that I'm a Fireman which means diet is flakey on days that I work