Tbol Cycle

[Suworu~Nutsuki]

what do you think to this Tbol cycle?

40mg ed week1
40mg ed week2
50mg ed week 3
50mg ed week 4
50mg ed week 5

then for pct i was thiking nolvadex tamoxifen
1st day 60mg then 6 days of 40mg then 10 days at 20mg

clenbuterol to lose the bodyfat.. straight after starting 1st day of PCT?

[NoFaith068]

Bad idea. Is this your first time with Tren? What is your cycle history? If you value getting an erection, you need to throw some test in there. Is it tren acetate? Enanthate? Hex, or what? Not enough information here bro. Post answers to the questions i've asked and we'll get you rolling on a PROPER cycle that will put on some good size!

[sanejim]

this was my first cycle, except extended to around 8 weeks.
worked out very well for me for a first cycle. i was very pleased, put on about 10lbs lean body mass.

good luck!

[y100adics]

Bad idea. Is this your first time with Tren? What is your cycle history? If you value getting an erection, you need to throw some test in there. Is it tren acetate? Enanthate? Hex, or what? Not enough information here bro. Post answers to the questions i've asked and we'll get you rolling on a PROPER cycle that will put on some good size!

????????

[Suworu~Nutsuki]

Not Tren but Turanabol the oral one...

[Suworu~Nutsuki]

this was my first cycle, except extended to around 8 weeks.
worked out very well for me for a first cycle. i was very pleased, put on about 10lbs lean body mass.

good luck!

What about the PCT? Do you recon this enough as the estrogenic effects are low? or do you recon more?

[theboss]

Bad idea. Is this your first time with Tren? What is your cycle history? If you value getting an erection, you need to throw some test in there. Is it tren acetate? Enanthate? Hex, or what? Not enough information here bro. Post answers to the questions i've asked and we'll get you rolling on a PROPER cycle that will put on some good size!

where did this come from? where is he talking about Tren?

[muzzer]

What about the PCT? Do you recon this enough as the estrogenic effects are low? or do you recon more?

Im starting a similar course at 60mg per day for 6 weeks. I was advised to follow this PCT:

Day 1 - 60mg Nolva
Day 2 - 10 - 40mg Nolva
Day 11 - 21 - 20mg Nolva

hope this helps.

[Suworu~Nutsuki]

thats helpful thanks, roughly what i estimated.

[Manpretty]

run 50mged tbol through-out.....tbol is weak and 40 IMO wont do a whole lot.....
what are your stats?

[Suworu~Nutsuki]

sorry what does IMO stand for? my stats are 5'6 180lbs 15bf

[spywizard]

sorry what does IMO stand for? my stats are 5'6 180lbs 15bf

IMO = In My opinion

IMHO = In my Humble opinion

[Old man]

run 50mged tbol through-out.....tbol is weak and 40 IMO wont do a whole lot.....
what are your stats?

40 mg's is plenty on first cycle. Watch out for back pumps. (low back pain)
My last Tbol outting, I got the worst back pumps EVER. On 60 mg/ED.
Gains are slow, steady, and won't melt off like Dbol.

[aadrenaline]

IMO = In My opinion

IMHO = In my Humble opinion

isnt IMHO = In My Honest Opinion?

[jagdpanther]

I'm not a big fan of oral only cycles. I would try one as an experiment but I don't see the point in shutting myself down, messing up my hdl/ldl values, going through pct ect for that small a dose. I usually use orals to kickstart
or end cycles along with short esters.
I like tbol but love anavar. I 've done both together for 5 weeks along with test P at the end of a cycle while longer esters were clearing. When i did my blood work 3 moths later everything was normal. The dose was 50mg tbol ed/80mg Anavar ed and 100mg test p ed.

jagdpanther

[Swifto]

I may run Tbol alone after my next cycle. I liked the compound a lot. I found starting at 40mg/ED and comparing the gains/sides, then adjust from there worked with it best. I settled on 60-80mg/ED. Excellent pumps and strength gains.

[randy6969]

you dont have to take 60 mg of nolva, just do week 1-4 Nolva 20 mg and week 1-4 clomid 100mg... or u can just stick with nolva alone for 4 weeks at 20 mg. i dont think tbol shuts u down that bad, recovery is easy. i did 2 tbol only cycles before both at 50mg worked out great did a pct with just nolva for a month at 20mg it was good.

[Swifto]

I'd go with:

wk 1-8 Tbol 40mg/ED (adjust the dose comparing gains/sides)
wk 1-8 Proviron 25mg/ED
*Bloodwork done week 8
wk 8-12 Nolva 20mg/ED
wk 8-12 Proviron 50-75mg/ED

Bloodwork will determine whether HCG and/or and AI (Aromasin) is needed during PCT.

[Manpretty]

40 mg's is plenty on first cycle. Watch out for back pumps. (low back pain)
My last Tbol outting, I got the worst back pumps EVER. On 60 mg/ED.
Gains are slow, steady, and won't melt off like Dbol.

wont melt off like dbol??? rreeessseeeaaaarrrccch please
where do they go?

and IMO 40mged would be a min dose for anyone
50 throughout would yeild better gains......ive not heard of anyone experiencing bad sides at 50 however i have at 60

[thekaydense]

wont melt off like dbol??? rreeessseeeaaaarrrccch please
where do they go?

and IMO 40mged would be a min dose for anyone
50 throughout would yeild better gains......ive not heard of anyone experiencing bad sides at 50 however i have at 60

its called water....and it goes down the drain.

[Suworu~Nutsuki]

sorry what is blood work? what are peoples opion on gettin hooked on roids? do you think once you start you cant stop, because in my head im only planning on doing them once this year then training for a year natural then seein what happens... but i recon i might do it then jst want to do it more and more!?

[Manpretty]

its called water....and it goes down the drain.

HAHAHAHAHH
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
nice so you include water weight as a part of gains????? hahahah what a joke!!!

so before you guys step on the scales you drink as much water as possible to increase your weight right??? no wait i mean increase your gains

[Manpretty]

sorry what is blood work? what are peoples opion on gettin hooked on roids? do you think once you start you cant stop, because in my head im only planning on doing them once this year then training for a year natural then seein what happens... but i recon i might do it then jst want to do it more and more!?

you wont get hooked if you dont want to........
just stick to time on + pct = time off
and youll be good to go

[Myka]

I see we still have members that are here to show that they know everything

[SVTMuscle*]

run 50mged tbol through-out.....tbol is weak and 40 IMO wont do a whole lot.....
what are your stats?

Ditto.


Who's car is that in your avy?!?

[Manpretty]

not mine haha
i have a very similar one just not black rims (which look sweet) and I had to opt for the 330ci with an M-series package couldnt afford the actual M3 at the time

[jagdpanther]

What is the half life of Tbol?

RandonJ are you going to take it all at once or break up the dose and administer twice a day?

Does anyone have information on this?

In the past I just took it all at once, in the morning. I'm wonderring if there isn't a better protocol for its implimentaion.


thanks,

Jagdpanther

[Liftnainez]

What is the half life of Tbol?

RandonJ are you going to take it all at once or break up the dose and administer twice a day?

Does anyone have information on this?

In the past I just took it all at once, in the morning. I'm wonderring if there isn't a better protocol for its implimentaion.


thanks,

Jagdpanther

tbol has a 16 hour half life.. i split it up morning and night, like all orals...

[Suworu~Nutsuki]

on tbol does your recovery time increase? also should i still take my glutamine or is there no need?

[thekaydense]

HAHAHAHAHH
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
nice so you include water weight as a part of gains????? hahahah what a joke!!!

so before you guys step on the scales you drink as much water as possible to increase your weight right??? no wait i mean increase your gains

listen dick,

there is a difference between water in your stomach and water retention. dbol classically makes you retain large amount of water, which is why people say its hard to keep gains. you can take a piss, shit, be naked and after a cycle with dbol you will still weight much more than weeks before, not all of it is muscle. but its still a gain, because you bodyweight increase. after cessation of the drug, water retention drops along with water.

[Manpretty]

listen dick,

there is a difference between water in your stomach and water retention. dbol classically makes you retain large amount of water, which is why people say its hard to keep gains. you can take a piss, shit, be naked and after a cycle with dbol you will still weight much more than weeks before, not all of it is muscle. but its still a gain, because you bodyweight increase. after cessation of the drug, water retention drops along with water.

so you take steroids to gain water?????? thats just great ahahha

i thought the point was to gain muscle.....i guess im just an idiot

[Manpretty]

you my friend have quite a bit to learn..........

dbol's gains dont magically dissappear, the "gains" you make from dbol and from any steroid should be one of two things...strength OR muscle mass ......
anyone that considers water retention as a "gain" is IMO a moron

and where does water retention come from??? fluids you intake!! and thus it is analogous to "water in your stomach" ... water is water is water ITS NOT GAINS lbm is what is considered gains ...get it in your head

[Old man]

not mine haha
i have a very similar one just not black rims (which look sweet) and I had to opt for the 330ci with an M-series package couldnt afford the actual M3 at the time

A 3 series is a girls car!

Slick, if you ain't rollin' in an M3 or M5, YOU'RE SHIT !!!



Sissy!
















j/k nice ride bro.

[Suworu~Nutsuki]

lol i like how this has become a bitching match... just orderd my cycle cant wait to start soon

[Manpretty]

A 3 series is a girls car!

Slick, if you ain't rollin' in an M3 or M5, YOU'RE SHIT !!!



Sissy!

j/k nice ride bro.

i know i hate myself for it now......oh well next car i get will be a supercharged M3....SO how about that!! muhaha just gotta wait 1 or 2 years to afford it

ps sorry for ruining your thread bud with the car talk

what did you endup deciding on for a cycle??

[Suworu~Nutsuki]

no worries its all good, decided on Tbol cycle 5 weeks as posted at the top... gonna do a descriptive log of it once i start it! watch this space!