Heading to the gym now ... starting an 8 week tbol cycle today! Not much to put here right now .... but I'll post stats, before pics, diet and my lifts up here by tuesday ... just wanted to get the log going today!
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Heading to the gym now ... starting an 8 week tbol cycle today! Not much to put here right now .... but I'll post stats, before pics, diet and my lifts up here by tuesday ... just wanted to get the log going today!
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34 years old, 195lbs, around 14 bf (I think), hopefully can get some feedback on that when I post pics tomorrow.
This is my first cycle. I didn't wanna put on water weight so I decided on Tbol.
Cycle looks like this:
1-8 Tbol 60mg ed (split into 2 - 30mg doses)
1-12 Myogenx 3 caps ed
1-12 Thermolife Liver Longer 2 caps ed
9-12 Nolva 50mg ed
Supplements are multi, Amp, NO product and BCAAS.
Gym schedule
Mon- Chest and Tris followed by 30 minutes cardio
Tues- Back and Bis followed by 30 minutes cardio
Wed- Off
Thurs- Shoulders and Traps followed by 30 minutes cardio
Fri- Legs followed by 30 minutes cardio
Sat- Off
Sun- Off
***Cardio will be adjusted from week to week depending on fat loss
Diet looks like this
Gym- 7am-830am
PWO
Whey Isolate and Dex
39pro 45carb 0fat 330cals
Meal 2
10 egg whites
48pro 8carb 0fat 240 cals
1/2 cup oats
5pro 27carb 3fat 150 cals
Meal 3
2 cans tuna
65pro 0carbs 3fat 300cals
1/4cup basmati rice
3pro 38carb 0fat 180cals
1 tbsp flax
0pro 0carb 11fat 110cals
Meal 4
8oz. chicken
53pro 0carb 3fat 250cals
1/4 cup basmati rice
3pro 38carb 0fat 180cals
1 tbsp flax
0pro 0carb 11fat 110cals
1 cup of spinach
Meal 5
2 cans tuna
45pro 0carb 3fat 300cals
1tbsp flax oil
0pro 0carb 11fat 110cals
1 cup of spinach
Meal 6
Micellar Casein
26pro 0carb 0fat 110cals
1 cup FF cottage cheese
24pro 16carb 0fat 160cals
Totals
341pro 172carb 45fat 2530cals.
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Hi your instrested in your post as i posted something very simular myself except im still on the deciding part of doing the cycle... keep me informed of how it goes.. oh bwt where did u get your liver stuff from?
"king of free stuff" / Retired
are you cutting? cals are very low?
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Monday Feb 26
Chest and Tris
Incline Bench
Warm up barx12
90x12
140x8
160x8 drop 140x6, 120x6, 90x6
Incline Flies
25x10
30x10
35x10 drop 30x8, 25x8, 20x6
Flat DB
40x10
50x8
55x8
60x5 drop 50x6, 40x8, 35x6
Machine Press
80x10
90x10
95x10
Dips (bodyweight)
9
8
6
6
SUPERSET
Close grip bench press
70x8
75x6
75x6
DB Skullcrushers
20x8
20x6
20x6
Cardio
30 minutes eliptical
My left elbow was killing me when I got home.
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Tues Feb 27
Back and Bis
SUPERSET
Deadlifts
warmup 60x12
200x10
220x10
240x6
Bent over BB rows
Warmup Barx10
60x10
80x10
90x8
SUPERSET
WGPD's to front (I don't know weight, my gym has numbers)
#8x10
#10x8
#10x8
*** trying to do slowly and concentrate on working back instead of bi's
Seated Rows
#10x10
#12x8
#12x8
*** trying to do slowly and concentrate on back
SUPERSET
One armed machine preacher curls
20x10
25x9
30x7 drop 25x6, 20x6, 15x6
Incline Hammers
25x10
30x10
35x8 drop 30x6, 25x6, 20x6
Cardio
20 minutes eliptical (feeling dizzy and light headed)
Sweating like crazy throughout this workout and lightheaded a few times.
Elbow hurting again on the drive home but felt like a really good workout for me.
Last edited by y100adics; 03-01-2007 at 08:22 PM.
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PB, pm sent ... thanks for ur help bro.Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001
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Hey random, got my liver supp at bodybuilding.com
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Wed Feb 28
Off
Last edited by y100adics; 03-01-2007 at 08:21 PM.
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It's Feb 28th, bro.
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Thurs Mar 1
Shoulders and Traps
SUPERSET
Seated Rear Delt raises
Warmup 10x10
15x9
15x9
15x8 Drop 10x8
Side Laterals
Warmup 10x10
20x9
20x9
20x8 Drop 15x8, 10x8
SUPERSET
Seated DB Press
25x12
30x10
35x8
40x6 Drop 30x6, 25x5
Front Plate Raise
25x10
25x10
25x9
25x7
Upright BB Row
60x10
90x10
100x8
BB Shrugs
100x12
150x10
160x10
170x8
Behind Back Barbell Shrugs
100x10
100x10
100x10
100x10
Cardio
30 minutes Eliptical
Good workout overall ... weird ... elbow didn't hurt at all today.
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Fri Mar 2
Legs
Barbell Squats (Past parallel)
Warmup 60x10
150x10
190x8
190x6 drop 150x6, 100x10
Leg Press
380x12
470x10
560x8
650x6
Leg Curl
90x10
95x8
95x6
Smith Calf Raises
290x15
290x15
290x15
Cardio
20 minutes eliptical ... cut it 10 minutes short ... legs were done
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Sat Mar 3
OFF
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Sun Mar 4
Off
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Are you noticing any changes after the 1st week?
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No changes in strength or anything ... feeling lower back pumps though and had a real bad headache on Friday, but I think the headache had to do with prolly not drinking enough water.
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Mon Mar 5
Chest and Tris
Tried a new training method today as suggested to me by a respected member. High reps, lower weight. 4 sets od 20 reps per exercise. I did this today and it kicked my ass but I think I'm gonna stick with what I'm doing until my cycle is over and then incorporate this kind of training for 8 weeks or so. The reason being I felt like I was sacrificing form in the later sets cuz I was so spent. My Delts were hammered so I'm sure my form sucked even though it was pretty low weight.
Incline DB Press
45x20
40x20
40x14
35x12 drop 30x4
Flat DB press
45x18
40x18
40x12
35x12 drop 30x12
Incline Hammer Strength Press
100x20
90x12
90x12
80x15
Tri Dip
10xBW
10xBW
8xBW
8xBW
CGBP
100x18
90x15
70x12
70x12
6 sets of abs
Cardio
30 minutes eliptical
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How come your doing so may reps? are you not training for mass?
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It was something I was trying for a session .... I'm back to my normal training.
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Tues Mar 6
Back and Bi's
Wide Grip Pull Ups
(Slightly assisted for super slow and 2 second pause at top)
12
12
10
10
Deadlift
Warmup 60x20
100x12
240x10
280x5 drop 190x8, 170x10
Bent over BB rows
60x10
100x10
120x6 drop 100x4
Wide Grip Pull Downs Behind Neck
Super Slow and 2 second lat contraction at bottom
#6x12
#8x10
#10x7 drop #9x8, #7x6 lost grip, couldn't hold the bar anymore
Seated Rows
Very Slow and 2 second contraction
#8x10
#10x10
#10x8
#10x6 started to lose grip again
Close Grip Preacher
50x10
60x10
70x7, drop 60x4
Standing Hammer Curls
30x10
35x10
35x8, drop 30x6
DB One Wrist Curls
25x10
25x10
25x10
Weight rolled all the way down to bottom of fingers and last rep of each set held in up position for 30 seconds.
Cardio
30 minutes eliptical
Felt really good today, biggest problem was keeping my grip later in the workout and also by the time I got to my bis they were already hammered. Used amplify 02 today for the first time. Good stuff.
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Wed Mar 7
Off
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have you posted any pics yet?
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yeah, we want pics!
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Ok, pics are up
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Thurs Mar 8
Shoulders and Traps
DB Press Seated
Warmup 35x12
45x10
50x8
45x6 drop 40x4
Laterals
25x9
25x8
25x7 drop 20x6
Plate raise
45x8
45x8
35x6
35x6 drop 25x4
Upright Row
60x10
70x10
80x6 drop 60x6
BB Shrugs
100x14
190x10
190x10 drop 100x10
Cardio
30 minutes eliptical
Felt stronger today and my DB press and laterals were up, also recovering quicker in between sets. I'm only 11 days into cycle, so don't know if this is attributed to tbol or just a good day.
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Spoke to a few people who said around the 2 week mark is when they started to feel a change with tbol, or could be a placibo doesnt matter what it is tho a stronger better workout is always gooood!
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Yeah man, definitely. I didn't expect to feel like that yesterday. I almost feel like I could have done more but didn't wanna overtrain. Legs tomorrow, hopefully recovery is quick cuz my legs usually hurt for like 2-3 days after working them! Stay tuned dude, I'll let you know. BTW, when do u start cycle and what does it look like? What is your diet like?
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well im waiting for it to arrive so prob in the next few weeks, feel like a child waiting for christmas lol, but i was planning on doing a bit of a wierd cyle of tbol
5 weeks wk1: 30 wk2: 40 wk3: 40 wk4: 50 wk5: 50
then decided to scrap that and just 50mg ed for 5 weeks... with nolva for pct and then followed by a clen cycle to help lose any fat gain and stop muscle loss after the cycle...
my diet isnt set day by day like most people i know that sounds bad but i always keep it within a boundry
e.g. today was 1) 3eggs 1 whole 2 whites, slice of whole meal bread and 1 scoop whey half cup oats 30g pro 40g carbs
workout
2) Protein shake with bannana 30g protein
30 mins later
3)1 tin tuna - sandwich with wholemeal bread and salad 36g protein 26g carb
4) protein shake 30g protein
5) Chiken sandwich with wholemeal bread 27g protein 26g carb
6) 2 chiken breasts bout 200g 50 - 60g protein pluss rice didnt really measure out how much but rougly bout 50g carbs
so rougly bout 200g of protein give or take 140g carbs fat not too sure but low im guessing below 50 for sure! what do u think? i know its abit vague but i generally always stick to this sort of menu... gonna start making more of a set diet with more tuna and more chiken involved for when i start the cycle..
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oh yea... how long you been training natty for? also do you feel any diff mentaly i know some steroids can make you feel pretty good?
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Good idea to go at least 50mg ed ... I'm at 60 and not feeling any sides except sometimes lower back pumps .. why 5 weeks for ur cycle? How old are you? What are your stats? I'm saying that isn't enough cals for ur cycle .... I'm up to about 3200 cals ed right now .... I wanna make sur I'm eating enough in order to make some gains and if I eat a few too many cals, after pct, I'll up cardio again and drop cals a bit ... but we'll see where I'm at 5 weeks from now .... Honestly bro, I would say the biggest thing for you to do right now while you're waiting for your gear is to get your diet straight NOW ... post it in the diet forum ... very helpful people there and I can help you out too .... also map out your workouts ... how you're gonna approach everyday ... what kind of exercises, how many sets, how many reps, supersets, statics ... everything. It will help out alot. As far as my training natty, about 7 years, but you wouldn't be able to tell cuz I'm not really big .... I never knew how to eat till I came here ... wasn't getting NEARLY ENOUGH food in me ... but now I know ... better now than never right? lol ... good luck man!
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i am 22 and have been training now for about 5 years but 3 serisouly, im 5'6 180 and 15bf, decided on 5 weeks for a few reasons a) heard by quite a few people the effects drop after the 5th week so thought might as well keep it short, also by doing a shorter cycle it means if you do another cycle your tollerance wont be too high. i went to day and brought a shed load of chiken tuna oats rice and eggs gonna start putting a proper set diet together. thing is i dont want to gain too much fat as im an easy gainer in that way!
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Where have you gone?? missing the updates!
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I'm here bro ... just been really busy ... I'll post up my workouts week to week when I have time ... but a quick update for u ... my bench went up this week ... I didn't try to max out but I hit 225 for 2 sets of 12 and 245 for 1 set of 8 ... also my deads went up ... had to use the stupid smith machine to deadlift .... but did a warmup of 12x190 then went right to my max 280 ... did 10 of that and could have went heavier, but when I went to add more plated, the right side of the bar was bent sideways .... I don't know what happend, but I just put the weight back and went and did some rows ... lol ... Feeling stronger definitely and wasn't experiencing any sides till today .... lower back is killinggggggg .... but I think it's also from the deads.
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good stuff.... things can only get better
was wondering if when you have time you could please post your new diet! would be a great help to me.
also i saw that you have already done clen?? how did you find it? what where your results like?
cheers
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im guessing this log has now ended
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Random ... if you have any ? ... hit me up on messenger bro .... I'm busy as shit man .... been trying to get on here but not on enough ....
AIM - iluvics
Yahoo- y100adics
Peace
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