MANPRETTY's M1T/PP LOG

[Manpretty]

ok so you guys wanted a log and here it is.....
week 1-4: M1T- 20mged; PP- 30mged

ancilliaries: 2500mg Milk Thistle, 1200mg RYR, 60mg CoQ10, 3g Taurine ed

pct will include

day1-4: 60mg nova 25mg aromasin through out pct
day4-11: 40mg nova
day 11-21: 20mg nova

started cycle:
Feb 22/07
current stat's

5'8"/158lbs/23/lifting 8years

bench: 225 x 8reps
squat: 250 x 10 reps <----------ill be using these lifts as a gauge
dead: 315 x 8 reps
dungbell shoulder press: 70 x 6 reps
bent over rows: 225 x 8 reps

goals for the cycle are mainly strenght due to the fact im a sprinter (im off season too) but i am a beach bum so you know lol...

ok so before this cycle i was reading up on the theory of growth spurts so i thougth i would try it out...and maybe ive gone about it the wrong way and im sure someone will point it out to me.....however this is what ive done.

i primed my body to grow by taking 6weeks and lifting light like 20-25 reps light i then took 7 days off completely
i then went back in the gym for 7 days prior to the start of my cycle and lifted heavy again 4-6 reps i am now on cycle lifting heavy and hopefully this will shock my body in to growing

also i have been counting cal's and im currently getting 3700-4200 cal's including liquids...relatively clean too.

[UpstateTank]

ill be watching this!!!!

why did you decide to swap pp for the sd?

[number twelve]

good luck bro your already strong for your bodyweight

[Manpretty]

thanks 12!
yeah i switched to PP because its what i could get my hands on...plus its just a clone of SD anyhow

edit: PP produces similar gains however is not a CLONE of SD

[notorious_mem]

will be watching.good luck.

[italianplayboy09]

thanks 12!
yeah i switched to PP because its what i could get my hands on...plus its just a clone of SD anyhow

really?

[NightTrain]

PP and SD are not the same............

[Manpretty]

yep my bad.......i said that wrong......i meant they produce very similar gains.....superdrol dry lean gains.....PP wetter gains....

the main difference is that PP is a touch more androgenic than SD

and yes they are two completely different compounds
PP- 2-ene (17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol)
SD- 2a-17a-dimethyl-5a-androst-3-one

[NightTrain]

i wasnt trying to bust your balls, bro ..... just saying they are not the same

[Anaboxa34]

Good luck with your cycle bro, i'm starting my SD cycle today i'm actually in the process of starting my log so it'll be nice to have someone to compare results/sides with. LIke i said best of luck man i'll be watching.

[Manpretty]

i wasnt trying to bust your balls, bro ..... just saying they are not the same

no man i was bustin my own balls.....i hate misinfromation and would hate to contribute to it

[Manpretty]

the main difference is that PP is a touch more androgenic than SD

PP should be good at combating the lethargic sides of M1T due to this fact....ill be able to tell you in about a week.

[K.Biz]

This should be interesting. very very interesting. I bet your gains will be out of this world. interesting PCT. you might want to pick up some letro just in case.

[Manpretty]

one other thing..... im spliting my doses like this....
wake up 7am 10mg M1T
lunch 1pm 15mg PP
1 hour preworkout 7-8pm 10mg M1T
right before bed 12midnight 15mg PP

this way doses are ~8hours apart
any suggestions are welcome

[UpstateTank]

that seems about the best way to do it

maybe the onbly thing i would suggest is to take the pp a few hours b4 you hit the sack and not right b4

[K.Biz]

that seems about the best way to do it

maybe the onbly thing i would suggest is to take the pp a few hours b4 you hit the sack and not right b4

Agreed, you dont need to keep the body so anabolic during sleep mostly because sleep is the most anabolic time. and later on into the cycle u might not be making it till 12am everynight that m1t i hear is lethargic as hell

[Manpretty]

Ok so yesterday was day 5 def felt strength increasing in the gym i worked shoulders and reped out 75's for 6.....i felt this the day before as well, thought it was placebo effects........so that means day 4 is where i started to feel my strength increase.

[K.Biz]

Ok so yesterday was day 5 def felt strength increasing in the gym i worked shoulders and reped out 75's for 6.....i felt this the day before as well, thought it was placebo effects........so that means day 4 is where i started to feel my strength increase.

nice nice. keep up the goodwork bro. wait till u start putting those 100's over your shoulders

[Hellmaskbanned]

You said you are a sprinter.

Whats your sprint workout look like?

Could you lay it out plz.

Currently I'm starting to sprint again after having a tendon removed from my hamstring.

Here's what I've been doing,

Jog (warmup) 5 minutes
Stretch (long ass time)
Agilities - High knees, butt kicks, grape vine, backwards run, power skips etc..
about 6-10 100meter + or - stride
8-12 Sprints between 20-60 yards

Don't know yet....Of course I will have to be able to work up to this.

Today I just did some jogging & 100meter light strides.

I'd like to see how this cycle effects your times by the way

Goodluck home skillet

[italianplayboy09]

Agreed, you dont need to keep the body so anabolic during sleep mostly because sleep is the most anabolic time. and later on into the cycle u might not be making it till 12am everynight that m1t i hear is lethargic as hell

its actually not that bad. im running m1t right now and ive decided to bump it up to 30mgs ED and the lethargy isnt nearly as bad as they were from when i did my sd cycle.

[K.Biz]

its actually not that bad. im running m1t right now and ive decided to bump it up to 30mgs ED and the lethargy isnt nearly as bad as they were from when i did my sd cycle.

I was barley lethargic on sd, i mean if i didnt get enough sleep ( I work at 5am some days) i would be tired during the day, but if i got a good amount of sleep (7-9 hours) i was good all day no problems.

but good to know the m1t isnt that bad. I am going to be running that if i can find it.

[number twelve]

its actually not that bad. im running m1t right now and ive decided to bump it up to 30mgs ED and the lethargy isnt nearly as bad as they were from when i did my sd cycle.

how much time did u take between your sd and your m1t cycles?

-12

[Manpretty]

You said you are a sprinter.

Whats your sprint workout look like?

Could you lay it out plz.

Currently I'm starting to sprint again after having a tendon removed from my hamstring.

Here's what I've been doing,

Jog (warmup) 5 minutes
Stretch (long ass time)
Agilities - High knees, butt kicks, grape vine, backwards run, power skips etc..
about 6-10 100meter + or - stride
8-12 Sprints between 20-60 yards

Don't know yet....Of course I will have to be able to work up to this.

Today I just did some jogging & 100meter light strides.

I'd like to see how this cycle effects your times by the way

Goodluck home skillet

keep in mind im a 200meter specialist
sprint workout would consist of: warmup sprint specific movements as youve stated except grapevine (IMO no need running is straight ahead) and a few more that would be hard to discribe streching is minimal..........tues: stride work 120meter 70%intensity thus: 300 meter repeats 5 min rest and 5 reps @80% sun: 70 meter repeats 60sec rest and 95% intensity

this varies alot with the time of year however....

you seem like your doing alot hellmask depending on your intensity

well my 200 meter PB is 22.56
and my 60 meter PB is 7.08 (stupid 7 second second barrier)

i dont run 100meter because i compete at university level in canada but extrapolating my time to 100 meters from the 60 it would be ~11 seconds

[Hellmaskbanned]

keep in mind im a 200meter specialist
sprint workout would consist of: warmup sprint specific movements as youve stated except grapevine (IMO no need running is straight ahead) and a few more that would be hard to discribe streching is minimal..........tues: stride work 120meter 70%intensity thus: 300 meter repeats 5 min rest and 5 reps @80% sun: 70 meter repeats 60sec rest and 95% intensity

this varies alot with the time of year however....

you seem like your doing alot hellmask depending on your intensity

well my 200 meter PB is 22.56
and my 60 meter PB is 7.08 (stupid 7 second second barrier)

i dont run 100meter because i compete at university level in canada but extrapolating my time to 100 meters from the 60 it would be ~11 seconds

Anything over 100meters scares me.

What does university level in canada have to do with not running the 100? I don't understand.

Nice times, like to see how the cycle helps them!

I always overkill stuff....I'm gonna lighten up on my plan.

[Manpretty]

100 is just not an event that is offered.....it goes 60, 200, 300,400 anyhitng longer than that i dont care about lol

well remember those are my PB's so i really wont be able to compare PB times corrolating to the cycle during the season im about 15-20 pounds lighter and usually keep about 85% of my strength....this past summer i was 138lbs and hada max bench of ~250 and a squat of ~300

[Manpretty]

if your coming back from injury a) listen to a trainer not me b) i would say take it slow stride work is fine till you get some strength back and progress in to more explosive training as your tendon heals........im not sure the protocol for post injury streching but i know for healthy athletes there is two theories one is minimal streching due to the fact more force can be produced from a tight muscle than a loose one take an elastic band for instance the tighter you stretch it the further you can shoot something with it....same idea applies to your muscle.......the other theory is athletes like gymnasts can still produce great amounts of force whilst still being flexiable

what sport are you training for football?

[Manpretty]

WEEK ONE UPDATE:

Strength is comin on STRONG...... today bentover row 225 X 10 easy ...AND......265 X 5

weight is up 6 lbs TOO

only problems are the kidneys are "tight" ill try drinkin more water

i was planning on getting 3700-4200 cals but it hasent been possible ....ive been taking in about 3000-3500 ed

[K.Biz]

add a glass of cranberry juice in everyday as well. i found this helped with the tight kidney thing. drink like 2-3 glasses for the first few days then just do 1 a day as mantience. you'd be suprised how good it works.

and at least a gallon of water a day bro. AT LEAST

[Manpretty]

OH also ive decided to run 20mg nova during cycle to take care of some preexisting teenage gyno....so im carrying very little water weight

[Manpretty]

add a glass of cranberry juice in everyday as well. i found this helped with the tight kidney thing. drink like 2-3 glasses for the first few days then just do 1 a day as mantience. you'd be suprised how good it works.

and at least a gallon of water a day bro. AT LEAST

nice man im headin out now to get some....

[number twelve]

found it lol

[Manpretty]

yeha there ya go

anywho making great gains so far!! we will see how it ends up

[notorious_mem]

kick some ass bro.....

[K.Biz]

hows the cranberry treating ya? working?

[Manpretty]

^^
yeah actually!! no tightness at all.......... i upped my water intake aswell

[K.Biz]

word. good to hear

[Manpretty]

Ok week 2 update:

had midterms this week so eating took a bit of a hit but its springbreak next week so all i have to do is train and EAT!!!

so since last week havent put on too much mass 3lbs or so but i find my body varies day to day so its hard to be very accurate with small measurements like 3lbs.

anyway for the past week workouts have been short as intended 45min or so but very intence 1min rest or so 3-4 excercises with 4-6 reps per set.

strength is still coming on very very strong........trained back today and seated cable rowed ....well im not exactly sure of the weight but 18 plates i think they are 8 or 10 each anyway i was up 4 more plates than normal
for the same reps!!

only sides ive noticed are lil acne on my forhead and some back pumps but thats it......OH and lethargic as **** hahha but its hard to tell cause im a lazy fucckkkerr in the morning anyway

[Manpretty]

ok so ive been trying to stay off the scales but i checked today and im up about 14lbs so far!
all my lifts are up 20-30lbs and i still have 8 days left
im totally stoked on how this has gone up to data....very little sides ive found!!!

[number twelve]

14 lbs! sweet!

[K.Biz]

14 pounds is very nice. congrats bro!