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**ColeD** · 11-09-2002, 12:02 PM

Hey guys, I finally got a digital camera. So, here's my info and pics. I'm 17, 5'10", 131 lbs. Very small build and lanky. Im trying to get bulkier, so im eating a lot and working out 5 days/week. I wanna go up to like 145, but NO roids. I just take protein and stuff, no creatine, but i do have glut peptides in my prot. I want a lot of advice and/or comments plz. Only been workin out hardcore for 4 months, so I guess im doin well. I wish i had before pics.

**ColeD** · 11-09-2002, 12:03 PM

another

**ColeD** · 11-09-2002, 12:03 PM

last one

**ColeD** · 11-09-2002, 12:17 PM

bumpy

**Carlos_E** · 11-09-2002, 12:41 PM

What resolution is your digital camera? Great detail in the pictures.

As far as workout advice... Eat! Train! Eat! Sleep! Eat! Train! Eat! Sleep! Eat! Train! Eat! Sleep! In that order and you'll grow. Just keep at it and the size will come.

**ColeD** · 11-09-2002, 12:48 PM

thx man. Im doin exactly what u said. BTW, i dont know the rez, it's the highest they have right now though.

**The French Curler** · 11-09-2002, 01:23 PM

If you eat, a LOT, you'll reach 145 in no time. I would suggest to keep bulking and bulking and see how high in weight you could get up to. For your height, a good natural build would probably be around 185-190 lean. You could get there, but it could take a few years. Good luck to ya bro.

**Warrior** · 11-09-2002, 01:25 PM

Originally posted by ColeD
thx man. Im doin exactly what u said. BTW, i dont know the rez, it's the highest they have right now though.

Nooooo... there are much better digital cameras. The Kodak 760 is one I would love to own but the body retails for 7-8,000. I have shot the 720 before and it is awesme - based on Nikon F5 body.

As far as pro photography - I stick with a neg F100 for now

As far as consumer point-and-shoot camera's, I was also impressed by the color seperation and detail with your camera.

DCS-760 6.0 Megapixel Interchangeable Lens SLR Digital Camera

**ColeD** · 11-09-2002, 01:31 PM

tru, ur right, i just looked at mine, it's 3.2 mega pixels, that one there is 6.0

**ColeD** · 11-09-2002, 02:39 PM

bump

**setsthesun** · 11-09-2002, 02:45 PM

holy shite you're skinny...
no problem man....2 years ago i was like 106 pounds or so and now i weight about 215 with not a lot of fat....just eat like you never did before. Really

**BullDogg20** · 11-09-2002, 03:13 PM

your massive man

keep eating, training and sleeping.

and u will be at what u want in no time

**JuiceSlut** · 11-09-2002, 03:13 PM

I have nikkon coolpix885 camera which is also 3.2 megapixels except my picture quality doesn't seem to be close to as sharp as yours and alot of the times my pictures come out blurry especially when I turn the flash off. Any reason why this might be?

**ColeD** · 11-09-2002, 03:18 PM

Ur so funny bulldog.

**BullDogg20** · 11-09-2002, 04:03 PM

No hard feeling bro i was only kidding around. u are very ripped, u just need the size thats all.

**ceps** · 11-09-2002, 05:39 PM

You guys are great.

**tatty** · 11-09-2002, 06:16 PM

I was at that point before...120 standing 5'7 though...but keep at it and you'll get there in no time. Eat, train and rest!

**Carlos_E** · 11-09-2002, 07:07 PM

Looking at the res of your camera I think it's time for me to upgrade. I have a Nikon Coolpix 950. I think it's 2.0 megapixels.

**Aragorn** · 11-09-2002, 07:29 PM

ColeD - I commend you for putting up your pics. I know you're shaking your head when everyone says "just eat," because you already know that and you want another answer. Really though there isn't, you just have to stick to basic hardcore lifts and basic hardcore eating. You have lots of time to grow so enjoy it all.

Once again

for you and your honesty.

Aragorn

**ColeD** · 11-09-2002, 07:44 PM

had 7 meals yesterday, lol =D

**Carlos_E** · 11-09-2002, 07:48 PM

ColeD, I commend you for not wanting to use AS at such a young age. You could teach the other young guys around here a thing or two.

**Aragorn** · 11-09-2002, 07:49 PM

Originally posted by ColeD
had 7 meals yesterday, lol =D

What did you have to eat? Let's take a look at that diet.

Aragorn

**ColeD** · 11-09-2002, 08:08 PM

ok, here we go,

Breakfast: 3 bowls of cereal - Honey bunches of oats
snack: 1 banana 1 large glass of low fat milk
lunch: tuna sandwhich w/ lettuce and tomato on whole wheat. large plate of salad with tomatos, chick peas and balsamic vinigrette
snack: protein bar: nitro tech - s'mores
dinner: grilled chicken with rice and broccoli, about a plate full, 4 strips of chicken and 8 ounces of rice
snack: after the concert i went to see I had a grilled chicken sandwhich with lettuce and tomato
snack: dried fruit (i know its bad for u, lots of sugar, but damn i love apricots)

**Red Ketchup** · 11-09-2002, 08:26 PM

Cole, if you wanna grow, #1 thing is to do is count your protein. I'm serious here bro!

I was eating a lot but didn't bother to count my protein. Figured what the heck, I'm sure I'm getting enough. Then I hit a brick wall and stopped gaining. Thats when I decided to be serious about it and count my daily protein intake.

Woah did I get a nasty surprise there! I was NOWHERE near the 2mg/1lbs body weight rule of thumb.

So do like me and make a logbook, and count count count. 6 meals a day 7 days a week. You say you're 131lbs? That means a minimum of 262g of protein per day.

Sounds easy? It's not. It's surprising how much food you need to feed hard working muscles. You have to literally force yourself to eat those 6 times a day, every day.

By the way you ARE doing well. Massive results like some of the pics you've seen here take YEARS to achieve. They are hard dedicated work. Don't expect to turn into Schwartznegger over a few months! It takes patience.

Keep training hard, sleep a lot and eat a lot and eat right.

Red

**saint808** · 11-09-2002, 08:28 PM

Ok, everyone thinks they eat a lot until they actually meet someone who does. I could eat what you ate yesterday and it would be a cutting diet for me... on the flipside... i am incredibly fat... the good thing about being skinny is that when you put on muscle it shows immediately... you won't have to worry about cutting up like some of the chubby fellows like myself do. I'd reccomend getting some shake supps with calories like Nlarge and such and add it to a meal or 3.

**Red Ketchup** · 11-09-2002, 08:47 PM

Just to give you an idea of an average day for me:

I weigh 215lbs so need 430g protein

6am: MRP shake + banana 40g/p
9am: Can of tuna + feta cheese 40g/p
10:30am: Protein shake + yogurt 50g/p
Noon: 1 packet of cold cuts + cottage cheese + tomato 60g/p
2:30pm: Chicken breast + cheese 60g/p
4:30-7:00 Gym (4:30-4:50 warmup and stretch, 4:50-6:20 weights, 6:20-7:00 cardio).
7:00 Protein shake for drive home 40g/p
8:00 Salad with shrimp or fish 60g/p
11:00 MRP shake 40g/p

Now all that comes to about 390g... close to my protein intake target. Of course this is a rough average but most of my days look similar to that.

By the way if you need a good reference to count your nutrients intake, check out the USDA's database at:

http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/cgi-bin/nut_search.pl

I already posted this link in the food/diet section but it's worth looking at.

Red

**broncojosh** · 11-09-2002, 08:57 PM

look at it this way bro, all you have to do is add muscle. You already have the low bf. 15 pounds of lean muscle mass would do you wonders. At your age you're gonna be amazed how quickly you can attain that. Read, eat, and lift everything, and you'll be on your way

**Gene** · 11-09-2002, 10:27 PM

Originally posted by Red Ketchup
http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/cgi-bin/nut_search.pl

Kind sir, here's another one:

http://www.ntwrks.com/~mikev/chart1.html

btw, why are your proteins measured in mg?

ColeD, take that snack before dinner, and make it the same as the dinner.

**Red Ketchup** · 11-09-2002, 10:41 PM

Originally posted by Gene

btw, why are your proteins measured in mg?

DOH!!!

Thanks, I edited it. My bad... typing and eating is no good

Thanks for the link! Good stuff.

Red

**Warrior** · 11-09-2002, 10:51 PM

You are obviously an ectomorph, hardgainer. If you want to gain weight... stick to basic compound movements like Bench Press, Deadlifts, Squats... and EAT A LOT. Eat everything in your face, pizza, ice cream, double cheeseburgers, whatever... FEED THE MACHINE! Feed your metabolism - cutting down will be easy - you have to get your body used to a new weight.

The thing with ectomorphs is they really have to work for their size through blood, sweat and education. Keep it going!

**ColeD** · 11-09-2002, 10:55 PM

ok, thanks guys ;D

**Pete235** · 11-10-2002, 07:39 AM

Originally posted by ColeD
Ur so funny bulldog.

Not to enjoyable when the shoe is on the other foot...eh Cole?

http://anabolicreview.com/vbulletin/...610#post323610

Anyway, I'm glad you are not even considering AAS at this time.You have been given some great advice and tips here. Use it to your advantage. Get your diet straightened out, get a good quality wieght gainer and eat like there is no tomorrow. Also, what does your workout routine look like? Give us an example of what you do on a weekly basis.

**ripsid** · 11-10-2002, 10:39 AM

It's nice to see a thread from a teenager where he doesn't ask for a proper Test/Deca/Dbol cycle! Work hard man! and EAT! Get your diet right and you'll be fine! Props on doing it right!

**ColeD** · 11-10-2002, 11:34 AM

i usually work most of my muscles once a week. Only things i work more is abs and calves. No cardio at this moment, cant afford to do it.

Monday: Shoulders, calves, abs
Tues: Rest
Weds: Chest, Abs
Thurs: Legs, Calves
Fri: Arms
Sat: Back, abs
Sun: Rest

**ColeD** · 11-10-2002, 11:36 AM

btw, right now, im makin the most gains on chest and legs. Im up to about 450 x 8 reps on leg press, 210 x 6 on squat and 150 x 4 on bench. I need to work on my back and arms. They are really weak.

**musclemagGIRL** · 11-10-2002, 11:48 AM

Originally posted by Pete235

Not to enjoyable when the shoe is on the other foot...eh Cole?

http://anabolicreview.com/vbulletin/...610#post323610

Anyway, I'm glad you are not even considering AAS at this time.You have been given some great advice and tips here. Use it to your advantage. Get your diet straightened out, get a good quality wieght gainer and eat like there is no tomorrow. Also, what does your workout routine look like? Give us an example of what you do on a weekly basis.

good call Pete

it's always easier to Flame then to be nice and to critique honestly.

**JuiceSlut** · 11-10-2002, 12:21 PM

ColeD how the hell could you flame someone and call them fat when they have more muscle in their fuckin forearm than you do in your whole body????

Start eating you look like you are from a country that does not have food.

**JuiceSlut** · 11-10-2002, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by Tennis_God

Congrats...you are now just as immature as him .....

Thats ok I am not too concerned, I use to be really good at tennis but I decided I wanted to get big and pursue a pro bb career instead. I defeated Pete Sampras and Andre Aggasis before, fucked Anna Kournakova and train with Chris Cormier. I have a pretty pimped out Escalade too that is worth about 90K

**kreper69** · 11-10-2002, 03:09 PM

hey what concert did you go to?? i think it's great that you're not considering AS at your age take advantage of the free flowing test in your body. it's not cool to flame someone for trying to improve them self man. your back is starting to develop, and it looks like your abs are developing nicely too. keep it up train hard, and eat, eat , eat. it's gonna take time, but the gains are going to come.
good luck!!

**bigteez66** · 11-10-2002, 07:37 PM

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