Has anyone tried that Goggle bolic stack (sorry about the spelling). If you stick with it, I got some good results, about the only fat burner I have used that actually worked. The only problem I had with it, was that it was expensive, and what is recommended is a 10 week cycle, and you go thru about 3 cycles, at about 100 a pop for all three. But did make me drop about 10 pounds, then I didn't follow it to the tee. Muscledawg.com has about the best prices on all three, and I have a copy of the cycle (somewhere), has anyone heard of it? I didn't get the "hyper" energy that most products like Xenerdrine gives, it made me feel "natural".