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    Income tax arguement.... oh no.

    Okay, so a buddy of mine who recently became a big Ron Paul supporter just turned the opposite direction. He was apparently having a debate with some dude over the federal income tax issue (whether or not Americans should pay it) and the guy convinced him that there IS a law, by showing him this website:

    http://docs.law.gwu.edu/facweb/jsieg.../taxes/F2F.htm

    That website deals with debunking the film Freedom To Fascism. So after seeing that, I got into an arguement with my buddy over it on MSN shortly after, and now he's convinced that there's no dangers we face, and we live in a perfect world, everything is great, and that everything is perfectly stable, blah blah blah. Now, if there is someone who convinces ME that there IS an income tax law, that doesn't mean that it's also going to convince me that we aren't facing huge problems (stripping of personal liberties, RFID Chips, etc.). But my buddy just abandoned all that as well and thinks there's no threat to himself or his liberty in the near future.

    Now, i'm not saying I am swayed. But, what do you all think of that link and is there any truth to what the person wrote?

    Here are some exerpts of things he said from our arguement (names edited):

    Friend: we've both been lead up the garden path
    Friend: blindly sucking down fantasies of dystopian bullshit
    Me: so, you think the federal reserve should still stand? you think they should just allow the politicians to continue to print money whenever they need it?
    Friend: yes
    Friend: because thye don't print money whenever they need it
    Friend: that created inflation
    Friend: evidently, i know far less about anything
    Me: okay, so how come inflation is so much higher today and it continues to rise, yet our productivity has increased enormous amounts, which means things today SHOULD be cheaper but they aren't?
    Me: instead everything gets more expensive
    Friend: if i had the guts i'd kill myself
    Friend: the truth is
    Friend: the world is mediocre
    Friend: there is no grand conspiracy or political mahciavellian plot
    Friend: because actually, nobody cares enough to do that
    Me: so I guess the Real ID act is just an april fools joke, right?
    Me: and so is the RFID Verichip?
    Me: which, by the way, has already been used
    Me: and the fact that the actual plan to abolish the Canadian, US, and Mexico borders have been broadcasted already
    Me: I mean, sometimes I feel that maybe it's best these things happen because it's the only way that people who don't believe this stuff will actually realize it's true
    Friend: people should grow up
    Friend: the RFID isn't going to kill democracy
    Me: lol I see what you're doing
    Me: you're doing the stick-the-head-in-the-sand thing
    Friend: i envy you, i really do. i wish i could maintain a belief in thta sort of world
    Friend: i wish there was an enemy to fight
    Friend: butwe're chasing phantoms
    Friend: the world is too prosperous
    Me: well, it's pretty easy to believe this stuff when i've been in the military, I saw shady things first hand over-seas in Afghanistan
    Friend: so what? we have no great problems left
    Friend: we wnat a conspiracy so bad
    Friend: because it gives meaning
    Friend: the reality is things are too stable in our world
    Me: lmao
    Friend: i say, look towards africa
    Friend: once africa is modernized
    Me: which will be never
    Friend: the human race will meet its true demise
    Me: we'll all be chipped before that happens
    Friend: bordeom
    Me: only ill be dead
    Friend: paradise is doom
    Me: YOU will be chipped
    Friend: i'd welcome chipping, if it ever happens
    Friend: it probably won't
    Friend: people will make a fuss
    Friend: and the government won't care enough to bother

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    bump.

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    I don't even have to read that to know your friend is retarded!

    I'm dumbfounded as to how he and others cannot see their civil liberties being slowly taken away.
    ***No source checks!!!***

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    I don't think it's the fact that he can't see. I think he's just refusing to see. I mean, over the last 3 or 4 days we've been talking alot about it and he did agree that we have serious problems. Now it's as though he's complete turned his head the other way. Maybe the truth of the reality was too much for him to handle and he was overwhelmed by what's really going on, and so he doesn't want to believe it?

    Anyhow, what do you think about the link as well?

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    Bump for input on the link posted.

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