1st cycle dbol and test..i missed my 1st dosage

[Emilio_Rebenga]

it should look somethign liek this at its VERY least . if it doesnt match this i wouldnt consider wasting the time and money .

week1-10 testenth or cyp@ 500mgs/week
week1-4 dbol@25mgs Everyday

2 weeks after last injection of test you start you PCT
week1 clomid 100mgs and 20mg nolva Everyday
week2-4 clomid 50mgs and 20mg nolva everyday

this is the very least i wouldt even consider running.

ive seen this to be recomended by other people as well...the reason i didnt start with this is b/c since its my 1st cycle and everyones body reacts differently i wanted to see how my body would react to the dbol alone and then if i added test in the mix...kind of like a pyramid cycle...someone else suggested that to me...he said i should bridge them in the middle and by the time im completly off the dbol i should be feeling the effects of the test so i should be good

[mkrulic]

ive seen this to be recomended by other people as well...the reason i didnt start with this is b/c since its my 1st cycle and everyones body reacts differently i wanted to see how my body would react to the dbol alone and then if i added test in the mix...kind of like a pyramid cycle...someone else suggested that to me...he said i should bridge them in the middle and by the time im completly off the dbol i should be feeling the effects of the test so i should be good

this is bad advice. test is enough for a first run. my first run was test e 250mg/week for 8 weeks. good gains, nothing spectacular. dont expect to compete for mr. olympia the first run

[Emilio_Rebenga]

this is bad advice. test is enough for a first run. my first run was test e 250mg/week for 8 weeks. good gains, nothing spectacular. dont expect to compete for mr. olympia the first run

the Mr. Olympia thing is understood...i was at least shooting for at least the Arnold Classic...lol...j/k


but all jokes aside..someone else has recomended that to me as well..they said that on my 1st cycle test should be more than enough...as i said im just tryin to get feedback from the people who know about this cycle or who have taken this cycle before and how did they do it

[mkrulic]

the Mr. Olympia thing is understood...i was at least shooting for at least the Arnold Classic...lol...j/k


but all jokes aside..someone else has recomended that to me as well..they said that on my 1st cycle test should be more than enough...as i said im just tryin to get feedback from the people who know about this cycle or who have taken this cycle before and how did they do it

understood. If you look around this board youll find that recomendations for first cycles is a long chain estered test at 250mg or 500mg/week. for 8 to 10 weeks. some recomend 10 - 12 weeks. I keep mine at 6 - 8 weeks. but a single long chain estered test is sufficient.

[ChuckLee]

the Mr. Olympia thing is understood...i was at least shooting for at least the Arnold Classic...lol...j/k


but all jokes aside..someone else has recomended that to me as well..they said that on my 1st cycle test should be more than enough...as i said im just tryin to get feedback from the people who know about this cycle or who have taken this cycle before and how did they do it

Oh yeah 250mg week is more than enough...WTF??? Not even for a TRT!
Your body produces naturally 12mg of test a day...do some calcs

[mkrulic]

Oh yeah 250mg week is more than enough...WTF??? Not even for a TRT!
Your body produces naturally 12mg of test a day...do some calcs

calculations are a little tough w/ exponential decay. I did test e 250mg/week for 8 weeks and got good results on my first run.
If you can get drunk on a 6 pack why drink a case. take advantage of the fact that your tolerance is very low for synthetic hormones. or do 500mg/week for your first run to be on the safe side. but this is more than enough, imho

[ChuckLee]

calculations are a little tough w/ exponential decay. I did test e 250mg/week for 8 weeks and got good results on my first run.
If you can get drunk on a 6 pack why drink a case. take advantage of the fact that your tolerance is very low for synthetic hormones. or do 500mg/week for your first run to be on the safe side. but this is more than enough, imho

This is definitely your motto I suppose, i've already hear that from you.
When your body has not a lack in natural testosterone production and you have completely enveloped, so 250mg is for sure too low, being a TRT dose.
And you can't get drunk with such that dose, you need more of it for achieve something real.

[mkrulic]

This is definitely your motto I suppose, i've already hear that from you.
When your body has not a lack in natural testosterone production and you have completely enveloped, so 250mg is for sure too low, being a TRT dose.
And you can't get drunk with such that dose, you need more of it for achieve something real.

yea I like that motto cause it makes sense to me. I still think its a challenge to calculate w/ exponential decay. you cant just add this up like natural numbers (250+250=500) and my doctor recommended 200mg/e2weeks. 500mg/week would be a safer bet tho. better to be safe than sorry

[ChuckLee]

this is bad advice. test is enough for a first run. my first run was test e 250mg/week for 8 weeks. good gains, nothing spectacular. dont expect to compete for mr. olympia the first run

But this is not what all other members of AR reccomend.

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