Stan ** 10 and Dbol

[NEW_GUY]

Ok , I have came to terms that inject is the way to go . Screw it I have to get over my fear of Pins . I can get Deca but not for another month and a half , Right now I have 150 pills STAN EDIT10 , and 500 5 mg Dbol , I want to start theses and then start the Deca when I get it . My buddy will shot me the first couple times till I get it . Anyway should I run them at the same time or maybe Run Dbol at 70 mg a day till I get the Deca then run winny during the Deca cycle . Any input , sugestions .. And what do you guys think is the best anti estr ..

**EDIT**

READ THE BOARD RULES !!!!

[jstraw428]

What is your age?
stats?
lifting experience?
Cycle experiece?
diet?


We can not make any suggestions without this type of information to go along with it...But from your statement, i think you should do a lot more research before starting an AAS cycle.....

[NEW_GUY]

What is your age?
stats?
lifting experience?
Cycle experiece?
diet?


We can not make any suggestions without this type of information to go along with it...But from your statement, i think you should do a lot more research before starting an AAS cycle.....

age 29
not sure bf % but im not fat
225 lbs
6'2
been lifting for a few years now
Never injected .
My diet is not the best because I do like eating wings but for the most part my diet is mostly pretty high protien , chicken , fish and things like that ..
I have mostly just taken Creatine and Dbol here and there, it just seems not to work anymore so thats why im moving up to aas .. Either way im still doing the cycles cause my buddy has been doing it for years and he's guiding me through it but I would like the opinion of the guys here also , to see how it matches up with my friends ideas .. Not sure what the pct is gonna be yet

[Amorphic]

Ok , I have came to terms that inject is the way to go . Screw it I have to get over my fear of Pins . I can get Deca but not for another month and a half , Right now I have 150 pills STAN EDIT10 , and 500 5 mg Dbol , I want to start theses and then start the Deca when I get it . My buddy will shot me the first couple times till I get it . Anyway should I run them at the same time or maybe Run Dbol at 70 mg a day till I get the Deca then run winny during the Deca cycle . Any input , sugestions .. And what do you guys think is the best anti estr ..

**EDIT**

READ THE BOARD RULES !!!!

you need to include test in your cycle.

it sounds like you need to work on your diet more than anything and educate yourself more on what a proper cycle should look like.

hit up the diet forum and the educational threads, i dont think you should start a cycle

[jstraw428]

If your buddy is guiding you through this crappy cycle, then he has no business doing AAS either......You need to do a lot more research before you start......Why would you not include Test in your cycle.....This is my OPINION and i am sticking with it.....Good Luck with your Crappy Cycle....

[NEW_GUY]

If your buddy is guiding you through this crappy cycle, then he has no business doing AAS either......You need to do a lot more research before you start......Why would you not include Test in your cycle.....This is my OPINION and i am sticking with it.....Good Luck with your Crappy Cycle....

Once again this shows how you get nowere here . nothing but BS remarks .. I guess you people would rather me **** myself up then help .. And he never said what to do yet I just wanted to see what you guys said first then compair to what he says .. Listen if Dbol winny and Deca is all I can get right now then thats all I can get .. Never mind I dont need your help , Ill stick to just reading here and not posting because posting is nothing but a waste of time .. If your asked a question then just anwser it the best you can dont talk shit ..

[jstraw428]

you dont start a cycle until you have all the components for that cycle......Test is the foundation for almost every cycle.....You are asking for trouble if you run those three compunds without any test.......especially with you and your friends limited knowledge of AAS....I was trying to help, by telling you to do more research, but you were stubborn and said regaurdless of what we said you were going to do the cycle any way....

[jstraw428]

Also, dont ask for our opinions and help, if you are not ready to listen....even if it is not what you wanted to hear......DO MORE RESEARCH>>>>>

[NEW_GUY]

I can run DBOL then start Deca . Deca results take awhile thats why I can jump start with Dbol then go right into the Deca when I get it . Whats wrong with running these two together and maybe slipping in the winny some were ? Its just Bs that when ever someone asked a question they never get a straight awnser , All I was aking was for help in how to work with the only 3 aas I can get my hands on right now ..

[jstraw428]

You need to run test with deca......if you dont, then you can get what is called DECA DICK......This is where your Lil General will have problems getting an erection.....Running winny with deca and No test will shut you down even harder......You need test with these compounds, and if you cannot get test, then you should wait to do your cycle....

[NATE0406]

if thats all you can get your hands on then dont do it. you need test. if you run deca without test you can forget about having sex. and also with no test in your system it could cause some depresion. if you run dbol you are just going to retain a shit tone of water and lose all your gains as soon as you get off. the best answer that you will get on here for this cycle is dont do it. do more research and you will see why everyone is telling you to not do it.

[Big]

You should not run this cycle. If you are ready for a real cycle run test e at 500mg/week for 12 weeks. Save this gear for later.
What is your planned pct after your cycle?

[Big]

I can run DBOL then start Deca . Deca results take awhile thats why I can jump start with Dbol then go right into the Deca when I get it . Whats wrong with running these two together and maybe slipping in the winny some were ? Its just Bs that when ever someone asked a question they never get a straight awnser , All I was aking was for help in how to work with the only 3 aas I can get my hands on right now ..

You aren't going to get a good answer on how to run those 3 together, because that's an awful combo and not even close to a real cycle.

[jstraw428]

all we can do is try fellas.....if he does not want to take our advice, then let him go and make horrible gains....feel crappy about himself and hopefully will never give AAS another thought.....All Good Advice bros....

[legobricks]

If you propose an awful cycle then we will give you the best advice which is the truth behind the compounds that you want to take. A lot of us here not only give you answers based on experience but others like myself give you answers based off of experience AND the science behind the hormone. We try to help but it all boils down to whether or not you want to listen to our advice.

[NEW_GUY]

Thanks for the help , Ill take the advice and not do anything till I can get some test e , What should I do with the dbol and winny , sell it or add it in somewere in the test cycle ? And I see tons of diffrent kinds of test , whats the name of test e so I can look it up

[legobricks]

Testosterone Enanthate or Cypionate. Almost identical esters and a great choice for first timers due to its less frequent injections, every 3.5 days which turns out to be twice a week.

[NEW_GUY]

Testosterone Enanthate or Cypionate. Almost identical esters and a great choice for first timers due to its less frequent injections, every 3.5 days which turns out to be twice a week.

thanks for the help lego ! what about Testabol Prop 100 ? any good

[jstraw428]

Prop is not a good choice for your first cycle....this is a short ester test, and requires frequent injections.....this should be taken at least evey other day......Do as lego said, and get yourself some Enanthate or Cypionate.......You can save the dbol to use at the beginning of your test cycle as a jumpstart......I would just save the winny for a future cycle, as that can be a pain in the butt for beginners a well(injectable).....hope all this helps

[cfiler]

Start simple. Best first cycles are test only. Prop requires ED or EOD injects. Cyp and Enth only need two injects weekly.

Save the dbol and winny for another cycle later.

[longhorn814]

Thanks for the help , Ill take the advice and not do anything till I can get some test e , What should I do with the dbol and winny , sell it or add it in somewere in the test cycle ? And I see tons of diffrent kinds of test , whats the name of test e so I can look it up

more gear is not always better, esp for a first timer..diet will dicatate what time of gains you get from any cycle..if your diet is not the best as you say, then dont expect great gains either..steroids arent magic beans...run a simple cycle of 500mg/wk of test e for 12 weeks followed by a proper PCT starting 14 days after you last shot of test..do you know what PCT is? If not, theres a whole section on here dedicated to it..

[NEW_GUY]

I really do thank you all for the help !! Yea I know what PCT is , And when and if I can get TEST E im not going to take it till I have somthing for Pct .. Thanks again guys ..

[jstraw428]

Keep doing your research, it will happen one day.....