First Cicle help : Tests + Winstrol ?

[shifty_git]

Diet and working out.. I know ya said ya don't wanna hear that, but im afraid its right.

You no where near ready for steroids yet.

[inky-e]

Diet and working out.. I know ya said ya don't wanna hear that, but im afraid its right.

You no where near ready for steroids yet.

tend to agree,but here's a thought,why don't you try some clen and attempt a clean diet with cardio?

[ifroyd]

Hi,

Inky, that is what im going to do. Well, the diet and cardio Iam doing it like theres no tomorow honestly, i am at the gym 5 days a week and in the weekends i do about 40 min of cardio first thing in the morning. Wednesday a good 1 hour spinning class as well, boy that shit is goood 800 cal lighter after it.

So im going to throw another question:

As i said i want moderate results, do you guys think i can do that ?
Im thinking do a clen cycle first for a maybe a couple months, ( 2 wks in 2 wks off x 2 ), then would be the time to decide going or not for the AAS.

So how do you think i can grow if i do a high quality protein based diet and lots of cardio in the tests cycle ( plus watching the carbs ).
Honestly if i can get a few inches in the biceps and anything bet 6 to 10 lbs of muscle that will be great i really dont need 20 lbs.

thanks

[inky-e]

i think once you burn down some excess fat with the clen and diet,you'll see some real muscle,you may even increase bicep size.as far as seeing 2" bicep increase,after a test cycle,you may be setting yourself up to be disappointed.no doubt your body will change and even grow in some areas,i think for a first time cycler you may measure success not in how huge you get, but rather in how your clothes fit after and during cycles.in the past i've noticed improvements in legs just by having my pants fit more snug in that area,same for arms,you'll fill out that t-shirt better in that department.try not to project too far down the road,focus on the what you're doing now,complete that objective,then move to the next step,i think you'll do just fine,keep me updated on your progress.good luck!