New doping rules in place for the Olympics. IOC has also approved a new test for HGH

[SVTmuscle]

The United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) announced plans Friday for enhanced testing of athletes prior to this summer's Beijing Olympics, describing the efforts as the most advanced and comprehensive testing program in the world.
The USADA plan includes expanded collection of blood samples and a new pilot program that establishes a baseline for each athlete, who is then subject to ongoing monitoring through collection of additional blood and urine tests.

LONDON — Athletes around the world will be subjected to out-of-competition tests for human growth hormone in the lead-up to the Beijing Olympics, marking a potential breakthrough against one of the most widely abused doping substances in sports.
David Howman, director general of the World Anti-Doping Agency, said Thursday that newly produced HGH testing kits soon will be distributed to accredited doping labs around the globe to screen blood samples for the banned performance-enhancing hormone.

An improved HGH test also will be in place during the Aug. 8-24 Olympics.

drugs are not cheating. they are used by those who are serious about winning. that's what sports are about. WINNING. I hate hearing this shit about "well it makes an unfair advantage" guess what, if you are a professional or top amateur going against the best in the world and not willing to take the drugs necessary to max out your performance, make a ****ing resume and start applying for a regular job.
taking a taxi cab to the end of a marathon is cheating

[Lexed]

im glad ur back svt

[SVTmuscle]

im glad ur back svt

[Act of God]

drugs are not cheating. they are used by those who are serious about winning. that's what sports are about. WINNING. I hate hearing this shit about "well it makes an unfair advantage" guess what, if you are a professional or top amateur going against the best in the world and not willing to take the drugs necessary to max out your performance, make a ****ing resume and start applying for a regular job.
taking a taxi cab to the end of a marathon is cheating

Ok try thinking of it this way:

Every game has rules. Whether it be the length of the spikes you can wear, the material the bat is made of, the height of the rim or whatever. The game is played within the boundaries of those rules. Without the rules, you really don't even have a game (or sport).

Steroids/HGH are against the rules of the sport. Breaking that rule gives you an advantage over those players adhering to the specific rules of the game. How do you rationalize that as fair? Should you be able to drive a V8 car in an event that is limited to 4 cylinder vehicles just because you're all about winning?

You say winning is the only thing that is important. By that logic you would support illegal spikes in a sprinting event, corking a bat or putting resin on your hand in baseball or helmet first tackling in football. Those are all also broken rules that would give you an advantage.

You have the mentality of a cheater. I obviously have no problem with steroid use, but you can't use them to literally cheat (no, getting bigger and stronger for personal reasons isn't cheating) other people who are trying to compete properly. If you have a problem with it, you should work to change the rules of the game.

[DSM4Life]

Ok try thinking of it this way:

Every game has rules. Whether it be the length of the spikes you can wear, the material the bat is made of, the height of the rim or whatever. The game is played within the boundaries of those rules. Without the rules, you really don't even have a game (or sport).

Steroids/HGH are against the rules of the sport. Breaking that rule gives you an advantage over those players adhering to the specific rules of the game. How do you rationalize that as fair? Should you be able to drive a V8 car in an event that is limited to 4 cylinder vehicles just because you're all about winning?

You say winning is the only thing that is important. By that logic you would support illegal spikes in a sprinting event, corking a bat or putting resin on your hand in baseball or helmet first tackling in football. Those are all also broken rules that would give you an advantage.

You have the mentality of a cheater. I obviously have no problem with steroid use, but you can't use them to literally cheat (no, getting bigger and stronger for personal reasons isn't cheating) other people who are trying to compete properly. If you have a problem with it, you should work to change the rules of the game.

Agree 100%

[SVTmuscle]

well......
shuttt up! !!!


I just feel that being a professional, if they CHOOSE to use performance enhancing drugs let remain it under the radar. Since a majority of professionals already use, I just feel when I'm paying $xx to see a baseball game, I want to see the maxed out potential

[Act of God]

Killer response!

Did you just want to make a statement or did you want a discussion?

[Atomini]

Ok try thinking of it this way:

Every game has rules. Whether it be the length of the spikes you can wear, the material the bat is made of, the height of the rim or whatever. The game is played within the boundaries of those rules. Without the rules, you really don't even have a game (or sport).

Steroids/HGH are against the rules of the sport. Breaking that rule gives you an advantage over those players adhering to the specific rules of the game. How do you rationalize that as fair? Should you be able to drive a V8 car in an event that is limited to 4 cylinder vehicles just because you're all about winning?

You say winning is the only thing that is important. By that logic you would support illegal spikes in a sprinting event, corking a bat or putting resin on your hand in baseball or helmet first tackling in football. Those are all also broken rules that would give you an advantage.

You have the mentality of a cheater. I obviously have no problem with steroid use, but you can't use them to literally cheat (no, getting bigger and stronger for personal reasons isn't cheating) other people who are trying to compete properly. If you have a problem with it, you should work to change the rules of the game.

I aggree. But i've already mentioned this in some of my other posts, but I think it's time that we accept performance enhancement as an evolutionary part of professional sports. It's here to stay and will never go away despite how hard we try, so I think it's time amend the rules.

[Amorphic]

Ok try thinking of it this way:

Every game has rules. Whether it be the length of the spikes you can wear, the material the bat is made of, the height of the rim or whatever. The game is played within the boundaries of those rules. Without the rules, you really don't even have a game (or sport).

Steroids/HGH are against the rules of the sport. Breaking that rule gives you an advantage over those players adhering to the specific rules of the game. How do you rationalize that as fair? Should you be able to drive a V8 car in an event that is limited to 4 cylinder vehicles just because you're all about winning?

You say winning is the only thing that is important. By that logic you would support illegal spikes in a sprinting event, corking a bat or putting resin on your hand in baseball or helmet first tackling in football. Those are all also broken rules that would give you an advantage.

You have the mentality of a cheater. I obviously have no problem with steroid use, but you can't use them to literally cheat (no, getting bigger and stronger for personal reasons isn't cheating) other people who are trying to compete properly. If you have a problem with it, you should work to change the rules of the game.

agreed as well

[Act of God]

I aggree. But i've already mentioned this in some of my other posts, but I think it's time that we accept performance enhancement as an evolutionary part of professional sports. It's here to stay and will never go away despite how hard we try, so I think it's time amend the rules.

I'm totally for that. Right now, though, it is set up that good (or wealthy) cheaters don't get caught and others do (usually struggling guys, lesser knowns). There is unequal "prosecution" of users (Barry Bonds v.s. some minor league jerkoff).

Open it up to whatever they want to do. They are the athletes, and they are adults. They are making enough money and absorbing enough fame to take the "risk" if they so choose.

However, until it is open like that...STOP CHEATING

[DSM4Life]

I aggree. But i've already mentioned this in some of my other posts, but I think it's time that we accept performance enhancement as an evolutionary part of professional sports. It's here to stay and will never go away despite how hard we try, so I think it's time amend the rules.

I disagree. When i see a football player making big moves or a boxes destroying other people that gives me motivation to push myself even further to try and strive to be as good as that person. I think it would be pretty sad for me instead to think "i wonder what cocktail he is using and if it would work for me." Also i don't care what anyone says if AAS was allowed in professional sports then it would be all over the news/papers/Internet and there would be a mad dash to get some from the younger generation.