Top Fighting Styles

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

What do you think the top 3, most effective fighting styles are to create the "ultimate fighter"? And why?
In order from 1 to 3, with 1 being the best.

And by effective, I mean useful in various situations, generating most power, etc.

Example:

1._____________ Why? __________
2.______________ Why?___________
3.___________ Why?_______________

[Deltasaurus]

IMO

COMBAT SAMBO teaches the same stuff as BJJ but includes strikes and leg lockes and others that u will never learn in BJJ, currently practiced by Number one Heavy weight Fedor
Muay Thai Good all around striking if your weak W/ your hands u can use elbow knees feet i think its fun to learn and all around useful
Wrestling great base if u dont want to stand u can take them down if they wanna take u do and your a good wrestler ur not going anywhere

[zimmy]

Combat sambo teaches the same stuff standing up as bjj... just like judo does similiar...but the instruction on the ground is where they differ.


BJJ is the best because all fights end up on the ground when you control it properly.
Muay thai for striking, because all submission is not a well rounded fighter.
wrestling... some of it contradicts bjj...but alot of good power base moves.

[rockinred]

Quick question about BJJ... is it applicable in a real fight? I always wondered how applicable it is... it seems like it is designed more for the mat... I know anything can be applied in a fight, but in the octagon, you can get hit and head bounce off the mat...if that was concrete it would be totally different... or being on your back on asphalt can really tear you up or in dirt, etc.... also, if someone was really trying to break my arm in a bar, then that is pretty much life threatening in my eyes and then it is biting, dirt, rocks, boards, anything goes for that matter.

I know big sexy was not asking what makes you the best street fighter, but I was just wondering about bjj since i don't have a whole lot of background on it?? anyone know or have an opinion on this?

[zimmy]

well...i heard that "biting eye gouging " bit before...but alot of ninjitsu folks got owned by bjj in the early days...as far as applicable...I have only had 2 incidents...
1) i did a sit down sweep and then proceeded to mount. Elbow and knees were scratched...but I clearly dominated that situation and didn't even need to punch
2) did a double leg take down and proceed to get full mount and then did an Eziekial choke using a no gi variation... no punches needed and he tried to punch my sides ...grab at my face. Had my face tucked so my eyes weren't to accesable and the panick brought to him by the choke made his punches nothing....

so I guess what i'm saying is....yes very applicable...are you going to do EVERYTHING you can do on the matt in real life...uhhh NO. But you have to adapt to your surroundings in any confrontations.

Oh yah...I used a hapkido / judo wrist lock to bring some one to there knees for trying to grab my throat. But I don't think that counts.

[Odpierdol_sie!]

Hmmmmm thats a tough one!

1st, Commando Krav Maga - like conventional Krav only with the bs cut out hence its only been taught to civvies for the last 3 years or so.

2nd, muay thai - striking with knees elbows fists and feet are most handy in a fight situation.

3rd, Bjj - best art for fighting on the ground but with the only disadvantage of letting your victims buddies play soccer with your head while you triangle choke him to death.

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

Thanks for the replies thus far guys.

A friend of mine just emailed me and said

Muay Thai, BJJ, and Judo.

Along with some Yoga...


Interesting....

[rockinred]

hmmm, thanks for the response zimmy.

big sexy,

My choices would have to agree with the others.. I didn't know much about bjj except from what I have seen on the cage fighters..

I would say it really depen ds on what kind of ultimate fighter you mean? under what circumstances i guess.

anyow,

1. kickboxing/muay thai - because it is the complete application of hands and feet and is very dangerous.
2. wrestling - because everything ends on the ground and it allows you to be on top and remain in control.
3. grappling/bjj - as you can see with my question above i don't know much about it and I do know it is similar to wrestling in the fact that it is all on the ground.. what makes it different is the fact that you can break the arm and utilize pressure points to gain an advantage...

I like boxing and it has served me well in my confrontations....

I still go back to saying that you really have to define what you mean by "ultimate fighter"... if it is mma cage fighting then i guess that answer is out there and that is more along the lines of what I answered my opinion on above. In special ops you train in hand to hand combat that is geared toward a lot different scenarios then you would for a cage or boxing ring... so there are many correct answers until you define what you want to be the ultimate fighter for.

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

hmmm, thanks for the response zimmy.

big sexy,

My choices would have to agree with the others.. I didn't know much about bjj except from what I have seen on the cage fighters..

I would say it really depen ds on what kind of ultimate fighter you mean? under what circumstances i guess.

anyow,

1. kickboxing/muay thai - because it is the complete application of hands and feet and is very dangerous.
2. wrestling - because everything ends on the ground and it allows you to be on top and remain in control.
3. grappling/bjj - as you can see with my question above i don't know much about it and I do know it is similar to wrestling in the fact that it is all on the ground.. what makes it different is the fact that you can break the arm and utilize pressure points to gain an advantage...

I like boxing and it has served me well in my confrontations....

I still go back to saying that you really have to define what you mean by "ultimate fighter"... if it is mma cage fighting then i guess that answer is out there and that is more along the lines of what I answered my opinion on above. In special ops you train in hand to hand combat that is geared toward a lot different scenarios then you would for a cage or boxing ring... so there are many correct answers until you define what you want to be the ultimate fighter for.

This would be moreso on the streets.

I don't plan on fighting "professionally"

Maybe even take a good self defense class like Jeet Kune Do???

[rockinred]

This would be moreso on the streets.

I don't plan on fighting "professionally"

Well then I know that most confrontations start with fists... kicking is good to give you distance if it is a wide open space...but most will start standing with fist exchanges.

with that, I say learning how to defend and throw a punch and work angles are huge in street fights...especially since most happen in a confined area where there is limited space... So i say boxing or kickboxing will help you learn how to punch, defend, and work angles which is huge in a street fight. keep in mind that some people that are not trained can outpunch or take the hardest punch regardless.

Wrestling is just as huge as standup because if things aren't going well for you or your opponent it will end up on the ground.... wrestling will help you stay in control and on top, then start the ground and pound...that is my 2 cents.

I say avoid any street fights if possible, as you probably already know... I have seen people get stabbed and guns pulled so it is just better to get out of the way because it is just not fair anymore anyways... no more fights and then it's over... they always escalate cause someone couldn't take the beat down.

good luck and train for the fun and confidence.

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

Well then I know that most confrontations start with fists... kicking is good to give you distance if it is a wide open space...but most will start standing with fist exchanges.

with that, I say learning how to defend and throw a punch and work angles are huge in street fights...especially since most happen in a confined area where there is limited space... So i say boxing or kickboxing will help you learn how to punch, defend, and work angles which is huge in a street fight. keep in mind that some people that are not trained can outpunch or take the hardest punch regardless.

Wrestling is just as huge as standup because if things aren't going well for you or your opponent it will end up on the ground.... wrestling will help you stay in control and on top, then start the ground and pound...that is my 2 cents.

I say avoid any street fights if possible, as you probably already know... I have seen people get stabbed and guns pulled so it is just better to get out of the way because it is just not fair anymore anyways... no more fights and then it's over... they always escalate cause someone couldn't take the beat down.

good luck and train for the fun and confidence.

Thanks for your input.

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

Would "ground and pound" be considered BJJ? Or is there something better for that case?


I think boxing would be great.


lol You see, I get all hyped up when I watch Fight Science, but the reality is, I just want to be better than your average joe, and able to fight/defend myself if need be. Plus boxing would help with hand and foot speed, which could help me on the court

[zimmy]

i consider ground and pound more of a wrestling thing because it's just about staying on top adn punching while at an advantage.

[roid_rage]

well... all Krav maga TO ME... JUST PURE BULLSHIT... traininig for killing not fighting my ass... I mean, the great secret they teach you... use whatever you can, bit, groin shots, etc etc... well, you dont really need that much training to do that... so basically, is just another overhype bs... If you cant beat some one in a fight... how the hell do you expect to kill him... I'm a bjj fighter, and in a street fight, if I can get a stick or a bat or a chair or anything there's around me, I rather 100000 times take, beat the **** out of the other guy with it than going to the ground and try to sub him... If I can bite him, I will, then when he is begin me for letting go his face, arm or what ever i'm biting, then I'll choke his ass...

So basically, all the dirty tricks you can use in other so call ONLY EFFECTIVE ON THE STREETS MA, (cause they are cleary not effective at MMA contest), you can use being a bjj fighter...

So my vote goes for...

1. Box/Muay thai (gotta know how to fight on your feet, you do not wanna go down if there's a couple of friends of your "enemy" around)

2. Bjj (if there is a straigh hand to hand fight, and the other one is just a normal dude, you probably choke his ass, break his arm or whatever you fell like doing, of course, in case you do not eat a huge right/left before you try to take the other guy down)..

[Odpierdol_sie!]

well... all Krav maga TO ME... JUST PURE BULLSHIT... traininig for killing not fighting my ass... I mean, the great secret they teach you... use whatever you can, bit, groin shots, etc etc... well, you dont really need that much training to do that... so basically, is just another overhype bs... If you cant beat some one in a fight... how the hell do you expect to kill him... I'm a bjj fighter, and in a street fight, if I can get a stick or a bat or a chair or anything there's around me, I rather 100000 times take, beat the **** out of the other guy with it than going to the ground and try to sub him... If I can bite him, I will, then when he is begin me for letting go his face, arm or what ever i'm biting, then I'll choke his ass...

So basically, all the dirty tricks you can use in other so call ONLY EFFECTIVE ON THE STREETS MA, (cause they are cleary not effective at MMA contest), you can use being a bjj fighter...

So my vote goes for...

1. Box/Muay thai (gotta know how to fight on your feet, you do not wanna go down if there's a couple of friends of your "enemy" around)

2. Bjj (if there is a straigh hand to hand fight, and the other one is just a normal dude, you probably choke his ass, break his arm or whatever you fell like doing, of course, in case you do not eat a huge right/left before you try to take the other guy down)..

The point you are missing from your very bias opinion is that the ones you mention are the best for street situations are not practiced in street circumstance... its alright being able to roll or having knock out right and left, but that kid who has something to prove who picked a fight withyou will more than likley pull a knife or a gun on you, or that is what you must assume in the street. Sports such as Thai, boxing, MMA, BJJ dont teach for this situation and sure as hell dont practice on a regular basis for them. Neither do they constantly practice targeting weak points of the body, i.e. pressure points, joints, eyes, throat attacks.

If you want to look after your self in the street you have to practice something that is made for the street and is tried and tested.

[intensityfreak]

i personally say if your a good street fighter and now how to fight the first punch is what counts. when i hit somebody their dazed and then i can t-off.

[goose]

So true,Krav is number one for the streets by far

The most street effective art by far.

The point you are missing from your very bias opinion is that the ones you mention are the best for street situations are not practiced in street circumstance... its alright being able to roll or having knock out right and left, but that kid who has something to prove who picked a fight withyou will more than likley pull a knife or a gun on you, or that is what you must assume in the street. Sports such as Thai, boxing, MMA, BJJ dont teach for this situation and sure as hell dont practice on a regular basis for them. Neither do they constantly practice targeting weak points of the body, i.e. pressure points, joints, eyes, throat attacks.

If you want to look after your self in the street you have to practice something that is made for the street and is tried and tested.

[Flagg]

I think most Krav Maga schools are up in London? I wish there were some down in Sussex

[Oki-Des]

Krav Maga

[200byjune]

1 wrestling
2 boxing
3 bjj

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

Commando Krav Maga looks really cool

But Im having trouble finding classes in the Houston area.
Help is appreciated.

I found one, but its nearly an hour away!!!

[Odpierdol_sie!]

I think most Krav Maga schools are up in London? I wish there were some down in Sussex

Dont go with IKMF (International Krav Maga Federation), its not as good. Ive heard that from a CKM instructor who taught IKMF for 7 years.
I have also done IKMF myself and personally i think its a waterd down version!

There are loads of CKM classes around the south of england.

Here is one in east sussex, the instructor sounds like a right tasty fvcker with his background!

http://www.commandokravmaga.com/eastsussex/

[zimmy]

The point you are missing from your very bias opinion is that the ones you mention are the best for street situations are not practiced in street circumstance... its alright being able to roll or having knock out right and left, but that kid who has something to prove who picked a fight withyou will more than likley pull a knife or a gun on you, or that is what you must assume in the street. Sports such as Thai, boxing, MMA, BJJ dont teach for this situation and sure as hell dont practice on a regular basis for them. Neither do they constantly practice targeting weak points of the body, i.e. pressure points, joints, eyes, throat attacks.

If you want to look after your self in the street you have to practice something that is made for the street and is tried and tested.

uhhh actually bjj has defense training for guns and knives...but good job...always impresses me when people know how to talk through the same hole they poop

[Odpierdol_sie!]

uhhh actually bjj has defense training for guns and knives...but good job...always impresses me when people know how to talk through the same hole they poop

I never said it doesn't.
You will never walk in to a random gym that teaches BJJ or MMA and be able to walk out on to the street after your first session and have any idea of how to defend a knife or gun attack.
There is valid amount of emphasis on competition training in BJJ and MMA gyms these days to ever warrant gun and knife defense training regularly enough to be able to effectively use what is practiced for a street situation.

[rockinred]

Let me let you all in on an ancient secret for guns and knife training. If someone pulss a gun or knife on you, the best defense you can do is...



























RUNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!! Get the hell out of dodge and live another day... period.

no need for training for that type of hypothetical situation unless you are in the military or LE. Any civilian should just get the heck out of the scene and don't try and be some bad ass hero. If you do it for fun and because it makes you feel better that is cool, but seriously, if you have been training for years and someone pulls a knife or gun... best thing to do is hall ass.

[Odpierdol_sie!]

Let me let you all in on an ancient secret for guns and knife training. If someone pulss a gun or knife on you, the best defense you can do is...

RUNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!! Get the hell out of dodge and live another day... period.

no need for training for that type of hypothetical situation unless you are in the military or LE. Any civilian should just get the heck out of the scene and don't try and be some bad ass hero. If you do it for fun and because it makes you feel better that is cool, but seriously, if you have been training for years and someone pulls a knife or gun... best thing to do is hall ass.

Its all based on a worst case scenario. The vast majory of people attacking with weapons will have no real commitment of actually using it.

I agree totally with the running away! its what is always emphasized firstly.... but it wont compensate for those who will shoot you in the back while you run.

If it came down to it situations like that are all close quarters and anything like aikido, bjj, greco is ideal for grappling with the limb that is the big threat, Krav has just taken that factor one step further.

Personally id rather a shooter in my face than a knife, guns are easy to defend at close range, no matter how quick you are with a knife defense you will always end up getting cut.

Based on reaction times a gun is easier to defend and when actually fired wont be pointing directly at you If the pistol is grabbed in a certain way it will jam and not fire a second round rendering it useless for the attacker.
Id rather not do it that way though.

[xythan_shadow]

I know I might get a ton of flak for this, but I have always been a fan of a kempo master combined with some of the styles mentioned above. The addition of kempo gives the person additional openings because they're trained to use the opponents attacks to their advantage. I've seen a few fights where a well timed counter led into an arm bar submission or a reverse mount.

Just my 2c

[AcePowerZ]

Jeet Kun Do "Bruce Lee" reason why? Hes bad ass
Wrestling Reason why? VIA grappling and strength
Zen Reason why? Total Focus

This is the Ultimate Fighter

[rockinred]

Its all based on a worst case scenario. The vast majory of people attacking with weapons will have no real commitment of actually using it.

I agree totally with the running away! its what is always emphasized firstly.... but it wont compensate for those who will shoot you in the back while you run.

If it came down to it situations like that are all close quarters and anything like aikido, bjj, greco is ideal for grappling with the limb that is the big threat, Krav has just taken that factor one step further.

Personally id rather a shooter in my face than a knife, guns are easy to defend at close range, no matter how quick you are with a knife defense you will always end up getting cut.

Based on reaction times a gun is easier to defend and when actually fired wont be pointing directly at you If the pistol is grabbed in a certain way it will jam and not fire a second round rendering it useless for the attacker.
Id rather not do it that way though.

what's up Odpierdol_sie!!! I know you have fun with Krav. I have had hand to hand combat training with disarming weapons while in the military. I am not going to go as far as saying that krav or any combative skills are not beneficial, but to be honest, it is really unknown how effective until you are in the situation and then it can be too late. The thing to consider is that if you fail in your attempt it can be life threatening. Is that worth the try?

I am not being sarcastic in saying that I would rather spend money taking some negotiation classes about talking your way out than a class that teaches you how to fight against against a gun or knife in the streets. More importantly I would consider why I am putting myself in the need or environment of that kind of hostility?? Krav's, commando training, and all military techniques, were established to disengage an enemy that is derived from wartime scenarios. If someone is charging you with a knife there is a way to use their momentem, etc...

IMO the streets are totally different.. You don't have attacks in that same manner and you also can't gauge for sure if the opponent is really going to use the weapon or not. So there can be other options to avoid. If it is happening for sure I doubt you are going to be able to do anything about it at that point except react the best you can based on a multitude of circumstances that a dojo can not prepare you for.

Like you already said the majority are not planning on using the weapon anyways. If that is the case comply with the request or get out of the way. You might think that you have some advantage and the guy is vulnerable and sure enough a mistake is made costing you your life. If someone comes blazing at you with a gun then find cover asap.

I guess the scenarios are tough and we could go on forever, but the likelihood of success is slim to none against a gun no matter how good your training is. It's best to comply for the most part or if it is a life or death, final last resort thing, well instincts come into play and anything goes at that point.

If you are training for some passive teen with a gun i guess it sounds good, but if it is a hostile looney with an intent to kill, your more than likely screwed... the chances of having either of these types of scenarios happening to you is very unlikely anyway.

All I see is someone trying to act upon a scenario when they shouldn't, causing themself or innocent bystanders to get killed, just because they thought from their Krav training they could. That is the whole reason why I am spending this much time talking about this. Hopefully this technique does not lead to more life-threatening hostility.

[Batlin MD]

Miago Do Karate : Because you can win the all valley karate tournament with only 30 days of training.


But seriously, I've taken (in this order) Shorinryu Karate, Ninjitsu, North Shoalin Kung Fu then Southern Choy Lay Fut Kung Fu and finally switched to MMA (Muay Tai & BJJ). I will say say that as far as straight up, life depending, street fighting, etc.. nothing compares to Muay Tai + BJJ combo. Standing on your feet or fighting on the ground you're well rounded to fight anyone, any style.

Bat

[Flagg]

Dont go with IKMF (International Krav Maga Federation), its not as good. Ive heard that from a CKM instructor who taught IKMF for 7 years.
I have also done IKMF myself and personally i think its a waterd down version!

There are loads of CKM classes around the south of england.

Here is one in east sussex, the instructor sounds like a right tasty fvcker with his background!

http://www.commandokravmaga.com/eastsussex/

Cheers mate, that's a nice link, he looks a right hard bastard! Lessons seem quite cheap as well, Krav Maga is something ive been wanting to do for yonks now. I should look into what is gonna be down in Southampton tbh as im going there in September. I think the Mossad use Krav Maga and they're supposed to be as tough as SAS and Spetznas.

[Flagg]

I did Taekwondo about 10 years ago, and we learned an all manner of disarming techniques for someone coming at you with a knife. My teacher always said that if someone is holding a knife with the blade pointing up, they are either inexperienced or scared or both. People that hold knives with the blade pointing down should be considered a dangerous threat. He also taught us that if you ever get a chance to run away from a situation, you should take that first.

I don't know if Bruce Lee's Jeet Kun Do is frowned upon by the more fighting purists today, but isnt his style an amalgamation of many other fighting techniques?

[roid_rage]

what's up Odpierdol_sie!!! I know you have fun with Krav. I have had hand to hand combat training with disarming weapons while in the military. I am not going to go as far as saying that krav or any combative skills are not beneficial, but to be honest, it is really unknown how effective until you are in the situation and then it can be too late. The thing to consider is that if you fail in your attempt it can be life threatening. Is that worth the try?

I am not being sarcastic in saying that I would rather spend money taking some negotiation classes about talking your way out than a class that teaches you how to fight against against a gun or knife in the streets. More importantly I would consider why I am putting myself in the need or environment of that kind of hostility?? Krav's, commando training, and all military techniques, were established to disengage an enemy that is derived from wartime scenarios. If someone is charging you with a knife there is a way to use their momentem, etc...

IMO the streets are totally different.. You don't have attacks in that same manner and you also can't gauge for sure if the opponent is really going to use the weapon or not. So there can be other options to avoid. If it is happening for sure I doubt you are going to be able to do anything about it at that point except react the best you can based on a multitude of circumstances that a dojo can not prepare you for.

Like you already said the majority are not planning on using the weapon anyways. If that is the case comply with the request or get out of the way. You might think that you have some advantage and the guy is vulnerable and sure enough a mistake is made costing you your life. If someone comes blazing at you with a gun then find cover asap.

I guess the scenarios are tough and we could go on forever, but the likelihood of success is slim to none against a gun no matter how good your training is. It's best to comply for the most part or if it is a life or death, final last resort thing, well instincts come into play and anything goes at that point.

If you are training for some passive teen with a gun i guess it sounds good, but if it is a hostile looney with an intent to kill, your more than likely screwed... the chances of having either of these types of scenarios happening to you is very unlikely anyway.

All I see is someone trying to act upon a scenario when they shouldn't, causing themself or innocent bystanders to get killed, just because they thought from their Krav training they could. That is the whole reason why I am spending this much time talking about this. Hopefully this technique does not lead to more life-threatening hostility.

Man... I cant agree more with you... lots of ppl get hurt 'cause their instrutor made them think they were some kind of special lethal human weapon, and if and when the time comes, all that is pure bs, and they get hurt...

The other day I was watching a show, I think was at Historychannel or Natgeo, it's call the human weapon... they were trainging Krav maga...with the military... not to disrespect anyone here... but... COME OOON!!! there were praticing a move to face an arm opponent (with a knife)... I just LMAO.... man.. kung fu guys, karate, tkd, and all accient ma were desing to fight an arm enemy... with knifes swords etc etc... but they all proved to be STRAIGHT AND PURE BS! unless your opponent is half blind... there is a pretty good chance (more likely 95%) that you WILL GET cut or shot if you try to face an arm opponent , of course if he is willing to use its weapon.....

[Glock-19]

1 standup. thats what most fans like to see.
2 juijitsu
3 wrestling

[Odpierdol_sie!]

....

[Odpierdol_sie!]

Man... I cant agree more with you... lots of ppl get hurt 'cause their instrutor made them think they were some kind of special lethal human weapon, and if and when the time comes, all that is pure bs, and they get hurt...

The other day I was watching a show, I think was at Historychannel or Natgeo, it's call the human weapon... they were trainging Krav maga...with the military... not to disrespect anyone here... but... COME OOON!!! there were praticing a move to face an arm opponent (with a knife)... I just LMAO.... man.. kung fu guys, karate, tkd, and all accient ma were desing to fight an arm enemy... with knifes swords etc etc... but they all proved to be STRAIGHT AND PURE BS! unless your opponent is half blind... there is a pretty good chance (more likely 95%) that you WILL GET cut or shot if you try to face an arm opponent , of course if he is willing to use its weapon.....

Im in agreement with him too. the best way to defend yourself in a situation is to get out of there. But in the most extreme situation where running is not an option you have to make decide what you are going to do and what your options are.

That show you are talking about, the guy you are saying was showing his stuff makes it look easy as he is a 65 year old veteran of CKM and BJJ.
What you have to take in to repect of situations is, and what Moni doesnt mention is when faced with an armed aggressor what are your chances?

With a knife, if the person is not skilled with it, they are high if you know what to do, what CKM teaches does work, but against a guy who knows how to kill people with knifes you might be in trouble.

If you are faced with a gun 6 inches from your head, weather to the rear or front, its not a matter of how good the shooter is because for him it will be physically impossible for him to hit a target at that close range by reacting on your movement.
If you preform the correct movement by not moving latterally and rolling your body it will be impossible to get hit by a round, a shot gun may be different. Like i say, this is at close range.
If the guy is a few feet away then you are drastically reducing your chances of pulling it off at all.

Attackers want you to be scared, they put the knife to your face and threaten to cut you or the gun to your head telling you they will blow your brains out.... an attacker who knows about gun and knife defense would more than likely stay back anticipating your reaction to defend their attack.

[pump.joe]

My teacher always said that if someone is holding a knife with the blade pointing up, they are either inexperienced or scared or both. People that hold knives with the blade pointing down should be considered a dangerous threat.

Well, it is easier to conceal with the blade facing downwards, but holding the knife with a hammer grip (blade up) provides greater reach and a greater range of motion.

Anyway, to answer the OP:
1) MT (being primarily a striker means you are 10% less fvcked against multiple opponents, and fighting at elbow range can be awkward for your opponent)
2) BJJ (to compensate for the weaknesses of #1 and give you the option of submitting him without breaking anything)
3) Wrestling (to compensate for the weaknesses of #1, plus takedowns)

[xythan_shadow]

I did Taekwondo about 10 years ago, and we learned an all manner of disarming techniques for someone coming at you with a knife. My teacher always said that if someone is holding a knife with the blade pointing up, they are either inexperienced or scared or both. People that hold knives with the blade pointing down should be considered a dangerous threat. He also taught us that if you ever get a chance to run away from a situation, you should take that first.

I don't know if Bruce Lee's Jeet Kun Do is frowned upon by the more fighting purists today, but isnt his style an amalgamation of many other fighting techniques?

Bruce Lee's Jeet Kun Do was originally him basically taking the best thing from several martial arts and stuff like fencing and he made something that worked for him. That's one problem with what they teach these days. He originally intended for the basics to be taught and then each person add what worked and felt natural for them. I feel that if Bruce Lee was alive today, he would adjust his style even more using the stuff we know and practice now.

[roid_rage]

Bruce Lee's Jeet Kun Do was originally him basically taking the best thing from several martial arts and stuff like fencing and he made something that worked for him. That's one problem with what they teach these days. He originally intended for the basics to be taught and then each person add what worked and felt natural for them. I feel that if Bruce Lee was alive today, he would adjust his style even more using the stuff we know and practice now.

Bruce was an actor, not a fighter, great actor or whatever, an ACTOR... so pleeease, do not mix hollywood and MA...

[goose]

Bruce was an actor, not a fighter, great actor or whatever, an ACTOR... so pleeease, do not mix hollywood and MA...

So true,his body was build for acting (hence his big biceps) in wing chung no masters have developed biceps as all the actions are with tri.He was amazing but it pisses me of when guys think he is the real thing.Fedor would kill him