bulk cycle

[Mbuffguy]

please critique it
1-12 test E 1,000 mg (500mg shots mon and thur)
1-4 dbol 50mg

[Mbuffguy]

my bad
18 years old
265lbs
6'3
trainning 6 years
BBing 2 years

[akaz13]

I am assuming this is not your 1st cycle using 1000mg of test per wk?

[MercyDog]

265 @ 18y.o., how much bulk are you lookin for bro?

[one8nine]

body fat%?
pct?
throw some letro in with that test dose plus dbol

[akaz13]

265 @ 18y.o., how much bulk are you lookin for bro?

Not knocking him, but depending on the effect he is going for 265lb may not be enough size for him...

It is all personal. I am 5'10" 240-244lb and I am not bodybuilder big. His 265 is on a 6'3" frame...

Personally, I think I need to be 275-280 for a wow factor... Maybe Mbuffguy is thinking the same thing, except he is 6'3"... After guys like Yates and Coleman, you gotta be big!

Some peoples frames can carry it... Arnold was only like 230lb and Haney was about 250lb.... The standard was different then, and they probably weren't using HGH either...

If a guy can carry the size, I say why not... Some peoples starting weight and frame won't allow it though...

I would like to seehow this cycle goes b/c I was just thinking about my 2nd cycle, and I was thinking of using dianabol to kick start.. depending on his results, I may keep it to test e & dbol...

But I was also thinking of adding deca, too.... My buddy is on deca, tren & test e at the moment.... but he has been in the game for a while... but I really won't be able to judge how effective it is b/c he doesn't seriously work out...

But since I am still in my 1st cycle, I think I can safe the tren for a little further down the road...

[duggadoo]

whats your bf% at 265

[Mbuffguy]

I am assuming this is not your 1st cycle using 1000mg of test per wk?

yep its my first test olny usually i run decca too

[Mbuffguy]

265 @ 18y.o., how much bulk are you lookin for bro?

as much lean mass as possible for a BB show

[Mbuffguy]

body fat%?
pct?
throw some letro in with that test dose plus dbol

most def i dont run cycles without AIs

[Mbuffguy]

Not knocking him, but depending on the effect he is going for 265lb may not be enough size for him...

It is all personal. I am 5'10" 240-244lb and I am not bodybuilder big. His 265 is on a 6'3" frame...

Personally, I think I need to be 275-280 for a wow factor... Maybe Mbuffguy is thinking the same thing, except he is 6'3"... After guys like Yates and Coleman, you gotta be big!

Some peoples frames can carry it... Arnold was only like 230lb and Haney was about 250lb.... The standard was different then, and they probably weren't using HGH either...

If a guy can carry the size, I say why not... Some peoples starting weight and frame won't allow it though...

I would like to seehow this cycle goes b/c I was just thinking about my 2nd cycle, and I was thinking of using dianabol to kick start.. depending on his results, I may keep it to test e & dbol...

But I was also thinking of adding deca, too.... My buddy is on deca, tren & test e at the moment.... but he has been in the game for a while... but I really won't be able to judge how effective it is b/c he doesn't seriously work out...

But since I am still in my 1st cycle, I think I can safe the tren for a little further down the road...

ya dude im pretty tall i dont feel real wife or real huge yet

[inky-e]

All I'm saying is ..18 years young.

[Mbuffguy]

All I'm saying is ..18 years young.

im allmost 19 lol .but ya dude you gotta do what u gotta do

[one8nine]

im allmost 19 lol .but ya dude you gotta do what u gotta do

ill support that

[Mbuffguy]

ya thanks guys I appreciate it

[MercyDog]

if your wanting to go lean kick it off with prop instead of d-bol

[MercyDog]

Also if its for show theres nothing like tren to get the blood flowing

[Mbuffguy]

Also if its for show theres nothing like tren to get the blood flowing

im doing a show june so this isn't my pre contest cycle man im gunna loads up on tren ace and test prop

[duggadoo]

what type of show is this local, regional, national and you still havent given us your bf%

[akaz13]

as much lean mass as possible for a BB show

tell us how it goes w/ an update...

ya dude im pretty tall i dont feel real wife or real huge yet

yea, I feel the same way... I got good potential though, b/c I got good genes for lats and everything starts from there (on upper body, anyway)..

if your wanting to go lean kick it off with prop instead of d-bol

will prop give a good strength burst like dbol?

since I started out as an athlete, I like strength just as much as size....

[PT]

im 100% against using steroids at 18 bro but if you really are competing then you have chose to take this rout and hopefully your well aware of the consequences and you except them because they are reality. i personally know people who have started at your age and now compete but it shouldnt be a decision taken lightly because there can be serious consequences

[Mbuffguy]

what type of show is this local, regional, national and you still havent given us your bf%

NPC junior CAL in june there is another show in july too i might do

[PT]

what next june?

[duggadoo]

what is your bodyfat% i got one question answered why are you not answering this question?

[Mbuffguy]

what next june?

yep .....


sorry man its about 20% man but im doing PCT and clen for a few months
(2 weeks on 2 off)

[duggadoo]

ok someone let me know im doin the math wrong here but at 265 and 20% bodfat you would weight at 5% 225 at 6'3"... you need to slow down get a beter diet and just bulk safely maybe not do this show because i think your expectations are to high and you are relying on gear way to much for your results

[Mbuffguy]

ya i thik i was eating too many carbs ill try dave palumbo's bulking diet